Speculation: 2023-24-25-26 Sharks Roster Discussion

[spintops]

Which doesn't make any sense. Malhotra, Stenberg and Bjorck are all better prospects. Even among defensemen Carels and Verhoeff are significantly younger than Reid and had better draft seasons than he did. Reid is being massively overrated due to the perception that the Sharks need a right handed PPQB.

He was rated the top defensive prospect before the sharks had the #2 pick. But continue to be the loudest guy on prospects who doesn't actually watch the prospects lol.

 

[67 others]

As Levshunov and Nemec have shown, reaching for a dman at #2 who has no business being drafted there automatically means they'll develop into a stud.

Keep repeating your BS. Maybe someday you will even get one right. Not this time though

 

[67 others]

Which doesn't make any sense. Malhotra, Stenberg and Bjorck are all better prospects.

nah, they aren't

Even among defensemen Carels and Verhoeff are significantly younger than Reid and had better draft seasons than he did. Reid is being massively overrated due to the perception that the Sharks need a right handed PPQB.

They had better draft seasons than Schaefer did last year too. It's almost like there are other things to watch for that stats.

 

[Hodge]

They had better draft seasons than Schaefer did last year too.

No they didn't.

 

[SJS1991]

A @coooldude hot take.... this is all MacKinnon's fault.

 

[67 others]

No they didn't.

They kinda did since Schaefer was injured his draft year and scored a massive 22 points in 17 games. It's almost like folks saw something other than stat counting


Chase Ried was also injured this year, missed time and came back not 100% , yet got overwhelming amounts of votes from coaches, scouts and analysts for being the best offensive defenseman and 2nd best defensive defenseman. And yeah, the OHL was actually the tougher defensive league this year than the WHL, which has been remodeling away from shutdown defense to active high tempo offensive style for quite some time

 

[Hodge]

They kinda did since Schaefer was injured his draft year and scored a massive 22 points in 17 games. It's almost like folks saw something other than stat counting

They actually didn't because 22 points in 17 games is a higher points per game rate than any of the defensemen in this draft plus Schaefer is only like 3 months older than Reid. When you take age into consideration their draft seasons are not even comparable.

 

[Hodge]

Hockey fans are so unbelievably entitled.

If you live in a dump like Ottawa or Winnipeg or Buffalo or Calgary you should be grateful to have a professional sports team to cheer for at all.

To then demand that elite professional athletes be indefinitely held hostage in those towns is just arrogant and delusional.

 

[67 others]

They actually didn't because 22 points in 17 games is a higher points per game rate than any of the defensemen in this draft plus Schaefer is only like 3 months older than Reid. When you take age into consideration their draft seasons are not even comparable.

Points per game over a smaller sample size isn't reliable, nor is your asinine opinion considering you barely watch prospects and just form opinions on the fly based on stats and height and whatever you read last that falls into your narrative lol

 

[Star Platinum]

As a Canucks fan, at this point, our needs are everything. Trading Willander to plug another hole doesn't make much sense.

Much like trading Misa to solve our defense problems doesn't make sense, but that doesn't stop vultures from other fanbases coming in with trade proposals all the time, most of which don't even solve our problems.

Agreed that trading Willander doesn't make much sense for a team like the Canucks if they think he's gonna be good. Hronek maybe somewhere down the line, but he's cost controlled and still relatively young, so the haul would have to be worth it for Vancouver to bite.

 

[SJSharksfan4life]

Which doesn't make any sense. Malhotra, Stenberg and Bjorck are all better prospects. Even among defensemen Carels and Verhoeff are significantly younger than Reid and had better draft seasons than he did. Reid is being massively overrated due to the perception that the Sharks need a right handed PPQB.

They may be better. You don’t know, either do I. I massively overrate Reid because he has accomplished so much in limited time. Watching him step up in World Juniors only verified that he rises above when given the opportunity. This is why he’s thought of so highly. They believe in what he will do not what he’s done. I believe the same.

 

[EXTRAS]

Much like trading Misa to solve our defense problems doesn't make sense, but that doesn't stop vultures from other fanbases coming in with trade proposals all the time, most of which don't even solve our problems.

Agreed that trading Willander doesn't make much sense for a team like the Canucks if they think he's gonna be good. Hronek maybe somewhere down the line, but he's cost controlled and still relatively young, so the haul would have to be worth it for Vancouver to bite.

Yah id trade hronek, but im a guy who thinks vancouver should be in full rebuild for a few years.

 

[Star Platinum]

Yah id trade hronek, but im a guy who thinks vancouver should be in full rebuild for a few years.

I think they should trade him ultimately, but they should wait for a Godfather offer. No reason to rush into it.

 

[cheechoo]

Hockey fans are so unbelievably entitled.

If you live in a dump like Ottawa or Winnipeg or Buffalo or Calgary you should be grateful to have a professional sports team to cheer for at all.

To then demand that elite professional athletes be indefinitely held hostage in those towns is just arrogant and delusional.

I’ll cosign Winnipeg, Ottawa and Edmonton slander, but not too much on Calgary. Genuinely an awesome city to live in. Accessibility to nature, hiking and the mountains for skiing. Extremely clean city with lots of activities, and in the summer Vancouver is about half a days drive away so you can visit beaches and swim in the Pacific Ocean.

Cons: subpar nightlife scene and the diversity of concert selection is significantly weaker than places like Montreal or London.

 

[Wedontneedroads]

The return was great... the issue is they are all futures, for a team whose core is in win now mode... plus OTT historically does weird stuff with draft picks.

So it has a chance to be really really bad for them.

Brady wasnt going to win them a cup... but if they screw up the return it can be really bad.

They have some tough decisions ahead of them. They need players now but they need players who want to go to Ottawa or have no trade protections which is pretty slim pickings these days.

Losing Eklund and Bystedt/Musty would sting, but replacing them with Stenberg and Voerhoff/Carels/Smits/Rudolph would be extremely tempting.

Unfortunately I think it’s a bit of a video game trade that won’t happen, but it’s insanely tempting to come out of this draft with Stenberg and one of the top defensemen while only giving up Eklund and a B prospect.

 

[Zarzh]

They actually didn't because 22 points in 17 games is a higher points per game rate than any of the defensemen in this draft plus Schaefer is only like 3 months older than Reid. When you take age into consideration their draft seasons are not even comparable.

Carels had a very comparable points per game and played 40 more games.

 

[SJS1991]

They have some tough decisions ahead of them. They need players now but they need players who want to go to Ottawa or have no trade protections which is pretty slim pickings these days.

Losing Eklund and Bystedt/Musty would sting, but replacing them with Stenberg and Voerhoff/Carels/Smits/Rudolph would be extremely tempting.

Unfortunately I think it’s a bit of a video game trade that won’t happen, but it’s insanely tempting to come out of this draft with Stenberg and one of the top defensemen while only giving up Eklund and a B prospect.

SJ is not getting the 9OA for Eklund + a B prospect.

There are way better players available … they would use the 9OA in those packages.

 

[Wedontneedroads]

SJ is not getting the 9OA for Eklund + a B prospect.

There are way better players available … they would use the 9OA in those packages.

Eklund and Musty/Bystedt for 9OA is pretty fair value. I would be fine swapping Mukh in there instead.

The challenge is Ottawa needs to find a team that also doesn’t want to win right now and has players with no trade protections that are willing to sign there long term.

Again, I doubt it happens, but in a pure value vacuum the Sharks could find a way to make it work.

 

[Friday]

is this his way of saying hes coming?

 

[Surfer Dude]

is this his way of saying hes coming?

JD the real GM