Rumor: 2023-2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Offseason Edition

[the_fan]

Fire Bednar!

 

[John Mandalorian]

If the Avs get a proper 2C, ie Lindholm, PLD, Backlund, Nelson, etc, what then?

Barbashev? Monahan? Drouin?

 

[BobRossColton]

If we're trading for potential, would Lundell be the best bet?

 

[CaleMakaw]

If the Avs get a proper 2C, ie Lindholm, PLD, Backlund, Nelson, etc, what then?

Barbashev? Monahan? Drouin?

A proper 3C and 4C too.

 

[John Mandalorian]

A proper 3C and 4C too.

Yeah. Agreed. But the 4C might have to be Meyers. If you get Monahan, you need a hedge which is why I proposed Barbashev.

 

[John Mandalorian]

If we're trading for potential, would Lundell be the best bet?

Florida has no reason not to kick the can down the road. Just because Bennett has become indispensable that doesn't mean they're selling low on Lundell.

 

[BobRossColton]

A proper 3C and 4C too.

This is why I like the idea of Hayton at 1.7m, maybe get Dvorak for 3c for just two seasons

 

[John Mandalorian]

This is why I like the idea of Hayton at 1.7m, maybe get Dvorak for 3c for just two seasons

Hard pass on Dvorak. There's no reason to do that.

 

[BobRossColton]

Say we do acquire PLD, has he already agreed to long-term or what are we signing him to?

 

[John Mandalorian]

Say we do acquire PLD, has he already agreed to long-term or what are we signing him to?

AAV?

 

[expatriatedtexan]

The stars have aligned, CMac is going to get the band back together. ROR and Pauly Walnuts are both free agents this summer. Nashville is holding Duchene and Barrie hostage, but we all want to trade Girard for the hell of it, so let's goo!!!!!!!!!!!!!








I hope the wasn't necessary. If this was our off-season, I would laugh, really, really hard. Then I would probably quit watching hockey.

 

[BobRossColton]

AAV?

Yes, I'm sure before acquiring him there's a number but there has to also be number we won't go past. 7? 8 is probably a no go?

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Say we do acquire PLD, has he already agreed to long-term or what are we signing him to?

For what it's worth, Dom's got PLD tagged with a 8.9M market value.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

The Avs contending depended on a decent deadline. After the CMac horror show the team was done, there just wasn't enough depth to make a run at the cup.

The season IMO was determined in the off-season. Avs fell into the classic cup winner trap, emphasized keeping the band together versus realizing who was essential and who was a hired gun.

The Avs should have let Manson walk and prioritized Kadri if he would sign for anything short term. If not, Trochek at least. Keeping Manson and overpaying depth like Helm set the budget tone and led to the depth issues to start out the season that only got magnified.

 

[Balthazar]

For what it's worth, Dom's got PLD tagged with a 8.9M market value.

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He's going to ask for the Horvat contract

 

[BobRossColton]

The stars have aligned, CMac is going to get the band back together. ROR and Pauly Walnuts are both free agents this summer. Nashville is holding Duchene and Barrie hostage, but we all want to trade Girard for the hell of it, so let's goo!!!!!!!!!!!!!








I hope the wasn't necessary. If this was our off-season, I would laugh, really, really hard. Then I would probably quit watching hockey.

Just flip the trade,Give Pauly the 4c money, get retention on Duchene+Barrie for G+Newhook+3rd or something, sign ROR that deal Pauly signed with the blues.


Ha

 

[expatriatedtexan]

He's going to ask for the Horvat contract

He's got every right to do so. He's the better player.

PLD with Nuke/Lehk would be a great combo in my opinion. I just don't see how we can afford him unless we are resigned to losing Mikko in a couple of years. I really think if we want a 2C for longer than 2 years, he's going to have to come in sub 6M. Otherwise, I think we have to lose a forward or keep Landy on LTIR forever.

 

[John Mandalorian]

The season IMO was determined in the off-season. Avs fell into the classic cup winner trap, emphasized keeping the band together versus realizing who was essential and who was a hired gun.

The Avs should have let Manson walk and prioritized Kadri if he would sign for anything short term. If not, Trochek at least. Keeping Manson and overpaying depth like Helm set the budget tone and led to the depth issues to start out the season that only got magnified.

Yes! Helm et al isn't part of the core, especially older players.

But in the case of Manson. It kind of tells you how conflicted they were in acquiring him. In order to give up Hellickson, you must keep him right? Sunk cost fallacy at work. But to be fair, they used the same logic with acquiring Lehkonen and that now seems shrewd.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Out of curiosity, for those of us that didn't throw Manson under the bus the minute the contract was signed. Are we throwing him under the bus now, or are we going to wait and see how he does next season without being injured first?

 

[Vaslof]

PLD is Habs bound no?

 

[John Mandalorian]

Out of curiosity, for those of us that didn't throw Manson under the bus the minute the contract was signed. Are we throwing him under the bus now, or are we going to wait and see how he does next season without being injured first?

It's not binary.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

Out of curiosity, for those of us that didn't throw Manson under the bus the minute the contract was signed. Are we throwing him under the bus now, or are we going to wait and see how he does next season without being injured first?

Manson is still my boy until he proves otherwise. Being injured doesn't prove shit to me.

 

[BobRossColton]

Go get a combo of Hayton mittelstadt Luostarinen Lundell roslovic pinto . Get a solid 3w Engvall heinen Kiviranta, kampf for the 4th to pair up with LOC. Get a good pairing for each forward line the fill the holes.

 

[Pokecheque]

That took years... lots of luck too.

That doesn’t discredit him or the work he put in when it stalled the first time in the slightest.

And don’t think for a moment luck didn’t play a part in a bunch of other key hockey trades.

Manson is still my boy until he proves otherwise. Being injured doesn't prove shit to me.

Injury is precisely one reason of many that contract was a terrible idea.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

Injury is precisely one reason of many that contract was a terrible idea.

I'm willing to see how this next season goes before I write the contract and him off. Manson can be a playoff monster and was a big part of why we got over the hump. Remember all the talk of being too soft after the Vegas series?