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Is spending that on a 3C a good use of the few assets the team still has?
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Is spending that on a 3C a good use of the few assets the team still has?
It depends on what else they do... But I would say yes easily. If they could get Laughton for that package, and then turn around and trade Girard+ for another 2 or 3C, I think they'd be in great shape.
They desperately need a 2C and a 3C. Its the two biggest holes in the roster that need to get filled. That's where I would be allocating every trade resource that we have at the moment.
I also like Laughton enough that I think he could be a 2C for us. With better linemates and more minutes I think he can be a 50-60 guy here.
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Do we think a 29 year old who’s scored more than 30pts twice is a 2C? He’d be a fine 3C but Laughton would be going down the Compher route again.
I absolutely wouldn’t be comfortable with Laughton as a 2C. That would be a huge mistake. He’s a good player and better than JTC, but he’s just a 3C.
For example, here's something that IMO would have us in pretty good shape next year. The two trades were as follows:
- Newhook + '23 1st for Laughton
- Girard + '24 1st + Foudy for Lindholm
But once you make those two trades, you've now got your main Center pivots locked in for at least the next 3 years at minimum before Laughton is a UFA.
The cap situation would get sticky again next summer. Especially if Toews gets a ~$3.4M raise to a $7.5M deal. You've basically need $9.5M to cover Lindholm and Toews raises. A significant cap jump of $4M would cover almost half of it. Save $1M on our backup goalie, dump Manson and save ~$2.5M on his roster spot, replace Tatar with a $2M player. That would get it done.
Now, if Landy comes back next year... Then you'd simply have to do something significant. Probably losing Toews and/or Nuke/Lehky or something.
But to me the most important position is Center and you make those two moves this year, you've solidified that spot for the next 3 years. With Center depth of Mack/Lindholm/Laughton, Rantanen as a winger, and Makar + Byram or Toews on Defense, I think even if you have to fill in with cheap players around those guys, that's a good enough group to continue to be a Top contender for 3 more years until the core simply gets too old.
I think he's quite a bit better then Compher. Not the perfect solution(As I just outlined I'd make two moves personally), but I think he would fill in at 2C well tbh.
Laughton’s increase in scoring is for the same exact reasons Compher scored more - his minutes went up a ton. His actual scoring rate went down this year, was the lowest of his career, I believe.
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He doesn’t have a gf, no.
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Pierre Engvall is going to get 3.5M+ as a UFA. No way that guy signs for roughly what he has been making as one of the youngest UFAs.
Super fast skater, good defensively, kills penalties, big body and can score a little bit. He is going to get paid well.
Super fast skater, good defensively, kills penalties, big body and can score a little bit. He is going to get paid well.
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Why are we wasting 4M in cap space on Tomas Tatar?
I dont think there's any chance Calgary would accept that trade. That's pretty bad for them IMO.
The rest is kind of fine. I dont really like Columbus deal for us tbh. Peeke is ok but not somebody I'd want to be paying good assets for. Would much rather just grab a Dman in free agency over that.
I would like to grab Sharangovich if we could.
He's the only Top 6 winger that can produce ~50+ points in free agency that would likely take a 1 year deal.
Anybody else is either getting more money then that or more term then that. And I especially dont want to be committing any money beyond next year on a Top 6 winger, not with the uncertainty around Landy and his possible return. Plus, the Avs have been linked to Tatar in the past and we know how that usually works out for us.
He's also just, a pretty solid player. On a good team with good linemates where he isn't relied upon to be a key piece, he's a very good complimentary player and showed that with the Devils this year.
Outside of a bad 2021/22 year, he's been great for New Jersey and Montreal.
We aren't getting Lindholm and Dube for that package.
Something like Girard, Newhook, a 2023- 1st and 2025- 3rd and a B prospect like Ranta for Dube, Backlund (2mil retained) and Tanev would work.
Dube is RFA in a year coming off a a strong year with 18 goals and 27 assists and Backlund is coming off 56 points and plays a strong 2 way game. Tanev and Backlund are pending UFA's though but we really can't add '24 salary because Landeskog might be back and we need to extend Toews.
Grab a 3rd liner like Miles Wood for 3x3m and a cheap veteran 3C like Jonathan Toews for 1x2.5m
Resign Byram to 3x5m. Malgin 1x1.5m. Meyers 1x950k. Nieto 1x950k. JJ 1x950k
1.4m in cap space
Roll with:
Lehkonen- Mackinnon- Rantanen
Dube- Backlund- Nichushkin
Wood- Toews- Malgin
Nieto- Meyers- O'Connor
Olofsson
Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
Tanev - JJ
MacDermid
Georgiev
Francouz
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Freaky Styley
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Cap space the Avs most precious commodity. It cannot be wasted spending 4M on a soft one dimensional regular season player. If you're wanting a potential top 6 FA wing on a 1 year deal, Drouin is a way better option (that's not saying much)
god get these damn charts out of my face. Have you ever watched Tatar play? He is 32 and has a whopping 13 points in 52(!_) career playoff games, including 1 goal in 12 games last season with the Devils.
Cap space the Avs most precious commodity. It cannot be wasted spending 4M on a soft one dimensional regular season player. If you're wanting a potential top 6 FA wing on a 1 year deal, Drouin is a way better option (that's not saying much)
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Addressing C and making possibly making decisions on LD are obviously paramount in priority.
However, one less significant but not insignificant issue is RD. In the past 3 years, Manson has only played over 60 games during his contract year. And he played less than 30 games in the other 2 years. What can the Avs do to address this issue?
* Do they move Girard there (assuming they keep Girard and kick the can down the road on LD decisions)?
* Do they target a player whose salary works but can also give you decent minutes if needed?
* Do they make peace with not being able to plan for every scenario (even if very likely) and hope for the best?
However, one less significant but not insignificant issue is RD. In the past 3 years, Manson has only played over 60 games during his contract year. And he played less than 30 games in the other 2 years. What can the Avs do to address this issue?
* Do they move Girard there (assuming they keep Girard and kick the can down the road on LD decisions)?
* Do they target a player whose salary works but can also give you decent minutes if needed?
* Do they make peace with not being able to plan for every scenario (even if very likely) and hope for the best?
If the Avs picked where Calgary did, high probability it would be just as bad for the Avs.
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I really like that lineup. Not sure how our bottom pair D will do but hey I’d that’s the “worst” outcome I’ll take it
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