Rumor: 2023-2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Offseason Edition

[JH21]

Sam Girard to Arizona
Barrett Hayton, Scott Laughton and Wade Allison to Colorado
1st round pick and Alex Newhook to Philly

Barbashev 5x6.0m

Byram 8x5m
Malgin 1x1.5m
Eller 1x1.5m
JJ 1x1m
EJ 1x1m
Nieto 1x950k
Meyers 1x950k

1.890m in cap space

Lehkonen- Mackinnon- Rantanen
Barbashev- Hayton- Nichushkin
Malgin- Laughton- Allison
Nieto- Eller- O'Connor

Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
JJ - EJ
MacDermid

Georgiev
Francouz

 

[Linds]

Is there any universe in which MacFarland buys Landy out next summer if not healthy in order to gain cap certainty? Meh, that's probably very much against the CBA though.

Not a chance

 

[Mighty Makar]

Sam Girard to Arizona
Barrett Hayton, Scott Laughton and Wade Allison to Colorado
1st round pick and Alex Newhook to Philly

Barbashev 5x6.0m

Byram 8x5m
Malgin 1x1.5m
Eller 1x1.5m
JJ 1x1m
EJ 1x1m
Nieto 1x950k
Meyers 1x950k

1.890m in cap space

Lehkonen- Mackinnon- Rantanen
Barbashev- Hayton- Nichushkin
Malgin- Laughton- Allison
Nieto- Eller- O'Connor

Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
JJ - EJ
MacDermid

Georgiev
Francouz

Byram isn’t signing that. Lol

 

[BobRossColton]

Forsling-Clifton as the bottom pair
Malinski as 7d

 

[dahrougem2]

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Forsling-Clifton as the bottom pair
Malinski as 7d

Forsling just played on Florida's 1st pairing lol the f*** you think they're just gonna throw him in a trade for Girard?

 

[BobRossColton]

Forsling just played on Florida's 1st pairing lol the f*** you think they're just gonna throw him in a trade for Girard?

I didn't even notice. Although I didn't watch much of it.

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

There’s a lot of yearning for a man named Wade in here.

 

[JLo217]

For us? Or just in general

In general

 

[chet1926]

Not a chance

I wouldn't say it's impossible.

If next summer rolls around and Landy is still a complete question mark, buyout has to come into the equation. Loyalty is important but if he isn't even close, he is simply killing the team.

It sucks but if he isn't close come next summer, I'd say it's likely that his career is done and the Avs need to do what's best for the franchise. Buyout is better than retirement, I believe, and if so buyout has to become a real possibility.

 

[MacKaRtin]

I wouldn't say it's impossible.

If next summer rolls around and Landy is still a complete question mark, buyout has to come into the equation. Loyalty is important but if he isn't even close, he is simply killing the team.

It sucks but if he isn't close come next summer, I'd say it's likely that his career is done and the Avs need to do what's best for the franchise. Buyout is better than retirement, I believe, and if so buyout has to become a real possibility.

Buyout means years upon years of dead cap space, our cap would be affected for 8 years with a buyout next summer. There is absolutely no way anyone is going to buy out that contract. He will either coast into retirement as an Av on LTIR with insurance probably picking up a bunch of the real dollars or he'll be traded to Arizona to add to their collection of permanently broken former NHL stars.

 

[Grigowski]

Buyout means years upon years of dead cap space, our cap would be affected for 8 years with a buyout next summer. There is absolutely no way anyone is going to buy out that contract. He will either coast into retirement as an Av on LTIR with insurance probably picking up a bunch of the real dollars or he'll be traded to Arizona to add to their collection of permanently broken former NHL stars.

 

[Metallo]

Is there any universe in which MacFarland buys Landy out next summer if not healthy in order to gain cap certainty? Meh, that's probably very much against the CBA though.

That would be awful and would hurt us. That cap penalty would not be eligible to the cap "spillover" like LTIR.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Is there any universe in which MacFarland buys Landy out next summer if not healthy in order to gain cap certainty? Meh, that's probably very much against the CBA though.

Isn't the contract insured? Just let him be on LTIR.

Bet365 has released its 2024 Cup Odds. They have the Avs as the odds on favorite to win.

Tough to say anything yet. I wouldn't bet on Avalanche being the favourite.. we will be good but not the best. My guess. Depending what happens in the summer.

I think with the right moves the Avs could absolutely be a favorite next year... But they have to make the right moves. Which currently I have very little fait in CMac doing so.

Exactly. Well said. After the trade deadline not so hopeful.

 

[Linds]

I wouldn't say it's impossible.

If next summer rolls around and Landy is still a complete question mark, buyout has to come into the equation. Loyalty is important but if he isn't even close, he is simply killing the team.

It sucks but if he isn't close come next summer, I'd say it's likely that his career is done and the Avs need to do what's best for the franchise. Buyout is better than retirement, I believe, and if so buyout has to become a real possibility.

Having a buy out on the cap for 13+ years? Lmao not going to happen. They will just LTIR him

 

[chet1926]

Buyout means years upon years of dead cap space, our cap would be affected for 8 years with a buyout next summer. There is absolutely no way anyone is going to buy out that contract. He will either coast into retirement as an Av on LTIR with insurance probably picking up a bunch of the real dollars or he'll be traded to Arizona to add to their collection of permanently broken former NHL stars.

I wasn't sure on the best scenarios. It sounds like LTIR for as long as needed. I mean the player has to agree to this. Not sure Landy will agree to sit in LTIR for years if he will never play again. I'd think he'd just want to retire.

But between buyout and retirement which is more damaging to the team? I can't remember all the rules.

 

[redacted]

Isn't the contract insured? Just let him be on LTIR.

We don't know if it is. I'd say odds are high, but there is no requirement to insure a contract in the NHL.

 

[The Moops]

I wasn't sure on the best scenarios. It sounds like LTIR for as long as needed. I mean the player has to agree to this. Not sure Landy will agree to sit in LTIR for years if he will never play again. I'd think he'd just want to retire.

But between buyout and retirement which is more damaging to the team? I can't remember all the rules.

If he retires he doesn't get paid. What incentive for him is there to do that? Not get paid millions for the low low price of telling a doctor his knee hurts once a year?

 

[UnkleKraker]

Weird question: Has anyone ever been hired onto the bench while still collecting LTIR funds? Is it even within regulations?

 

[The Moops]

Weird question: Has anyone ever been hired onto the bench while still collecting LTIR funds? Is it even within regulations?

Pronger is probably the closest compatible

 

[ThatAvsGamer]

Is there any universe in which MacFarland buys Landy out next summer if not healthy in order to gain cap certainty? Meh, that's probably very much against the CBA though.

Wouldn't Landy be on LTIR so he wouldn't count against the cap?

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Wouldn't Landy be on LTIR so he wouldn't count against the cap?

He would count against the cap, however, the Avs could go over the cap by his cap hit during the season. There’s different rules in the off-season

 

[redacted]

LTIR counts against the cap, but with LTIR, you are allowed to exceed the cap. Landy won't retire and the Avs won't buy him out. If Landy doesn't play again (and I think we are way too early to say that), he'll end up being traded to whichever team is currently tanking and trying to get to the cap floor.

 

[Hasbro]

LTIR counts against the cap, but with LTIR, you are allowed to exceed the cap. Landy won't retire and the Avs won't buy him out. If Landy doesn't play again (and I think we are way too early to say that), he'll end up being traded to whichever team is currently tanking and trying to get to the cap floor.

Not until the balloon portion of his contract has passed.

 

[redacted]

Not until the balloon portion of his contract has passed.

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Depends on the insurance level, and if insurance is on the contract. If it is 90% insured, then it really doesn't matter. If it is only 50% insured, July 2, 2026 would be the day.

 

[BobRossColton]

If we used 2023+2024 1sts+ Newhook could we get Lindholm plus one of their lesser defensemen/forward? Mainly for bottom 6 help