Rumor: 2023-2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Off-season is in full swing

[AvalancheSpeedsters]

We have next year's 1st and 2nd (I believe), plus now we can put guys like Behrens and Foudy on the table (along with roster players like G) to get guys if we need. For example Avs may feel comfortable dealing Behrens now that they have that Russian kid. Who knows. Lots of offseason to go here.

Exactly , much like they could trade Barron and Helleson because they had options . Similar idea

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Absolute best case scenario RyJo and Colton replace Kadri and JTC.

Now we have to replace Landy's production in the top 6. Best chance to do that was trading the picks.

They can still trade picks from 2024 and beyond. There's a lot of time between now and training camp

 

[bromando]

We'll see but it's going to be extremely difficult to find a 70 pts player that we can afford in free agency or to trade for one now.

Not necessary. Knights had one 70 point player (eichel who actually didn’t hit 70 due to injury). We have 4 players who can hit a 70 point pace (Mack, Rants, Makar, and even Nuke) plus RyJo who is a bit of a wildcard. IMO this team needs more of the all around players than high level scorers. Those players are findable in ufa and at the deadline when our team really takes shape.

 

[EdAVSfan]

The Avs need to go into FA and see what holes they’re able to fill from there first.

No one has been moved, so it’s not like they’ve missed out on potential trade targets.

I’d rather they hold off on the trade until after they see what they can get in FA first. Then re-assess and if you still have holes, you make the necessary trades.

Not to mention, everyone clamouring that they should’ve traded their picks, will be there pounding the table at the trade deadline that they load up and trade more. As if Avs just get unlimited assets.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

The Avs have shown a willingness to trade future 1st round picks, as they did with Kuemper.

With next years draft also being weaker then this years... It really wouldn't surprise if the "plan" all along was to use both 1st picks this year in a stronger draft so they could move the 2024 1st for help on free agency day or shortly after, without sacrificing the pipeline too much.


We'll just have to wait and see. Even if they don't make anymore trades I really do think RyJo and Colton especially are going to be significant improvements to our bottom 9 for next year and provide more scoring down the lineup.

Then they just need to be smart and target some good players for value deals in free agency like they did with ERod last summer.

I mentioned this already before but Drouin for $1M would be one of those smart target I think that could really do well in a Top 6 role with Mackinnon as his Center here.

I also quite like Sheary out of Washington as a target and maybe Comtois from Anaheim for cheap... If they find a way to have $2.5-3M to spend on a legit 3rd liner sort, I'd go hard after Pierre Engvall or Jesper Fast, maybe Miles Wood.


Personally I also like Tomas Tatar depending on his cost. His scoring in the playoffs is somewhat concerning but he's a proven 20G, 45-50 point winger that could end up being the type of guy who goes for super cheap due to the fear cap.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I also think the biggest unknown and wildcard of the situation right now, is just how much cap space are we going to have for potential UFA targets.

There's a huge difference in terms if what they can do if they manage to get Byram and Ross for a combined $7M or less(Say a $3.25M bridge for Bo and $3.5M on a 5-6 year deal for Ross) versus if those negotiations don't go as well and they end up costing upwards of $9M for the two(A $4.5M deal for both basically).


Depending on what way those two negotiations go we could be talking an extra $2M to spend on one roster spot or to spread out over a couple different guys...

That could be the difference in having to sign Kulikov and Kiviranta for $1M to be the 3RD and 3RW... Or being able to get Clifton for $2.5M and Sheary for $1.5M or something.

 

[dahrougem2]

Absolute best case scenario RyJo and Colton replace Kadri and JTC.

Now we have to replace Landy's production in the top 6. Best chance to do that was trading the picks.

Not really. The Avs still have their 2024 and 2025 1st round picks, they still have Behrens, they still have Foudy, they still have Girard/Byram, they can still dangle Ritchie/Gulyayev.

There are a ton of ways the Avs can approach this.

IMO the Avs are going to try hard to find someone with only 1 year left on his contract in case Landeskog does return to full health for the 24-25 season. If he doesn't, you're off the hook for the player on the 1 year contract and can then try to find someone with a bit more term while having even more clarity on your cap situation re: Byram/Toews/Girard.

I think names that fit with the "only 1 year" category could include Anthony Beauvillier, Kevin Labanc, Nino Niederreiter, Jack Roslovic, Tom Wilson, Sam Reinhart, Anthony Duclair, and Mike Hoffman.

Now, some of those names are clearly much better options than others. However, they all fit under the same criteria. Plus, the Avs can afford to be flexible with C/W targets because both Colton and Johansen can likely shift to the wing if needed.

 

[Avaholic29]

Worst case, Sign Hathaway, drouin, JVR.

Drouin - Mack - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Johansen - Rantanen
JVR - Colton - O’Connor
Hathaway - Meyers - Olofsson

 

[Chiarelli]

Worst case, Sign Hathaway, drouin, JVR.

Drouin - Mack - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Johansen - Rantanen
JVR - Colton - O’Connor
Hathaway - Meyers - Olofsson

LOLofsson on a 4th line

 

[Ararana]

I just want them to finish up the forward roster so we can start panicking that Toews is about to go into his UFA season unsigned.

 

[Balthazar]

Not really. The Avs still have their 2024 and 2025 1st round picks, they still have Behrens, they still have Foudy, they still have Girard/Byram, they can still dangle Ritchie/Gulyayev.

Behrens and Foudy worth literally nothing. AHL swap at best.

Now watching players under contract getting traded for futures consideration, and the league fear of small dmen, Girard at 5M may very well worth nothing as well at this point

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Another thing to keep an eye on... Calgary doesn't have a 2024 1st round pick that they can do anything with right now because of the conditional restraints of their own pick.

If Backlund won't re-sign, I bet sending the Flames a 2024 1st for him would be of interest to them partly to give them that flexibility of being able to trade a 1st rounder again.


Something like Backlund(@50%) for Olausson and the 2024 1st would certainly fit nicely into our cap situation.

 

[dahrougem2]

Behrens and Foudy worth literally nothing. AHL swap at best.

Now watching players under contract getting traded for futures consideration, and the league fear of small dmen, Girard at 5M may very well worth nothing as well at this point

You're fooling yourself if you think Behrens and Foudy are worth literally nothing. Especially Behrens.

Look at how Drew Helleson was used in a trade. Behrens has had arguably a better college career while both were 2nd round picks.

Don't think just because high salaried players in the NHL are going for nothing that means prospects are also now worthless. That's not how it works.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Nothing is worth anything, and everything is worth nothing.

NHL 2023.

 

[Nihiliste]

Kostin and Perry both moved for nothing today. How many teams are left that might need to move something for no assets, because that’s the kind of price point we need to shop at lol

 

[Balthazar]

You're fooling yourself if you think Behrens and Foudy are worth literally nothing. Especially Behrens.

Look at how Drew Helleson was used in a trade. Behrens has had arguably a better college career while both were 2nd round picks.

Don't think just because high salaried players in the NHL are going for nothing that means prospects are also now worthless. That's not how it works.

Helleson is a righty and not undersized.

This is what Pronman had to say yesterday. He could be wrong of course but that should tell you something about the current value of our prospects, including Behrens.

 

[Avaholic29]

LOLofsson on a 4th line

He’s definitely capable of a fourth line role. Would prefer he’s the extra forward but don’t know how much money they’ll have to throw around at fourth liners. You watch him at all with Dallas? Has a solid motor and does all the things you’d want a fourth liner to do lol

 

[Chiarelli]

He’s definitely capable of a fourth line role. Would prefer he’s the extra forward but don’t know how much money they’ll have to throw around at fourth liners. You watch him at all with Dallas? Has a solid motor and does all the things you’d want a fourth liner to do lol

Total brain fair on my part I thought you were talking about Avs prospect Oscar Olausson! My bad

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Any bottom six UFAs got anyone's interest? I still like Jesper Fast if we can get him on a two year deal. Wouldn't mind seeing Pauly Walnuts get either a PTO or a dirt cheap deal to play on the 4th line, LW or C, as needed. Outside of that, I'm not sure what all we can afford right now without knowing the terms of Byram's deal. That's going to make July 1st tricky.

 

[dahrougem2]

Helleson is a righty and not undersized.

This is what Pronman had to say yesterday. He could be wrong of course but that should tell you something about the current value of our prospects, including Behrens.

And that is one scout's opinion. Should we also have listened to Pronman when he said any team picking Landeskog top 5 was making a huge mistake?

Behrens has value. To say he is worthless is just plain wrong.

 

[Avaholic29]

Any bottom six UFAs got anyone's interest? I still like Jesper Fast if we can get him on a two year deal. Wouldn't mind seeing Pauly Walnuts get either a PTO or a dirt cheap deal to play on the 4th line, LW or C, as needed. Outside of that, I'm not sure what all we can afford right now without knowing the terms of Byram's deal. That's going to make July 1st tricky.

Hathaway, sundqvist, JVR, nyquist, suter, wood, engvall, nosek, Watson, motte, aciarri, janmark, kiviranta.

 

[AvalancheSpeedsters]

Hathaway, sundqvist, JVR, nyquist, suter, wood, engvall, nosek, Watson, motte, aciarri, janmark, kiviranta.

Flyers resigned JVR

 

[Mighty Makar]

Motte would be cool.

 

[Muffin]

Flyers resigned JVR

No they didn't.

 

[Ararana]

Flyers resigned JVR

I could have sworn I saw on twitter they did too, but CapFriendly says no.