Rumor: 2023-2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Off-season is in full swing

[sethro109]

The way he attempted to box out the forward beside the net was pretty soft. Even with his strength limitations, it was a weak/soft effort. Made it too easy for the forward. Might as well have not even been there.

Girard's not a soft human being. But his brand of defense is kind of soft, because he gets out battled physically in many of those stationary battles in front of the net and in the corners, and can get muscled off pucks easily if he gets caught flat footed with the puck behind the net.

My definition of soft is the opposite of being "tough to play against." A good D core has a good balance of puck movers like Girard and defenseman that are tough to play against like Manson.

Ideally you could have both with a guy like Hedman, but those guys are few and far between these days, so you have to utilize roles, and try to put each guy in the best position to succeed.

I guess it just comes down to different definitions of soft. I always thought a soft player as someone who always avoided contact and never goes to the dirty areas.

 

[The Kingslayer]

The problem with Toews is he's going to ask for 7 or 8 years and the Avs will balk for good reason. Then when they say no more than 4 or 5 his agent will claim the Avs are disrespectful and he is as good as gone.

I don't see him being a top 15 D away from Makar. Away from the Avs he's a 1st pair D now and for a year or two, then he will start sliding. I say be ruthless and make the trade when you can. Doesn't make the team better but makes for a much longer lasting window.

He was showing signs of his slide last season. In 7 years forget it. I think being ruthless will hurt short term for sure but as you said it might make for a longer lasting window.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

He was showing signs of his slide last season. In 7 years forget it. I think being ruthless will hurt short term for sure but as you said it might make for a longer lasting window.

The Avs will crash and burn immediately once Mack will start to decline.

If they knew how to draft things could be different, but they don't.

Another homerun trade could also work, you can't count that to happen though.

 

[NorthernAvsFan]

Me, the day after I get into an argument with someone on HF:

 

[Frenchy]

Any words on our PTO yet , or it's still too early ?

 

[forsbergavs32]

Any words on our PTO yet , or it's still too early ?

No word yet, we’re still on Ryan Graves talk

 

[Ararana]

Any words on our PTO yet , or it's still too early ?

They decided to give him a 1 year, 825k contract instead.

 

[niwotsblessing]

They decided to give him a 1 year, 825k contract instead.

That's obviously $250K too much.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

That's obviously $250K too much.

Too many years as well. What the hell is happening to this franchise!?

 

[henchman21]

I find it kinda funny how the 250k joke has persisted through the 637k penalty.

 

[Avaholic29]

The Avs will crash and burn immediately once Mack will start to decline.

If they knew how to draft things could be different, but they don't.

Another homerun trade could also work, you can't count that to happen though.

Yeah and the oilers won’t be as good when draisaitl and Mcdavid decline too, interesting stuff.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Avsboy]

delete

 

[henchman21]

Most of the players I never heard of, and DeAngelo I wish I never heard of

Rizzo is a legit prospect and was the best player on DU last year...

 

[Mighty Makar]

Devils sign Foote.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Devils sign Foote.

 

[chet1926]

Devils sign Foote.

Good, we don't need mediocre sentimental namesakes. Foote is pretty bad, the only reason he was ever even discussed here was due to his name. Without that he'd never even been brought up.

 

[chet1926]

Rizzo is a legit prospect and was the best player on DU last year...

I don't disagree with he was DUs best forward last year. However NCAA prospects are very hit and miss. NHL upside for sure, how big an impact is debatable.

 

[henchman21]

I don't disagree with he was DUs best forward last year. However NCAA prospects are very hit and miss. NHL upside for sure, how big an impact is debatable.

If he was in the Avs' pool he'd be somewhere between 5th and 7th (I'd have him 5th). Beyond the point though, I was just stating he's not a nothing name in the prospect world.

 

[Gumballhead]

Most of the players I never heard of, and DeAngelo I wish I never heard of

I think Massimo Rizzo is what the Italian cool kids call someone with game.

 

[chet1926]

If he was in the Avs' pool he'd be somewhere between 5th and 7th (I'd have him 5th). Beyond the point though, I was just stating he's not a nothing name in the prospect world.

Well the Avs pool is arguably the worst in the league, absolutely bottom 5. Most average pools he's not top 5. Flyers have one of the best pools in the league, he probably fits around 8-10 in their pool.

But yes I agree he's absolutely not a no name prospect.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[The Shermanator]

but why

 

[henchman21]

Well the Avs pool is arguably the worst in the league, absolutely bottom 5. Most average pools he's not top 5. Flyers have one of the best pools in the league, he probably fits around 8-10 in their pool.

But yes I agree he's absolutely not a no name prospect.

Yeah I'd agree with that. He's simply a kid in that fringe NHL area... is he a AAAA Tynan or is he a Kerfoot?

I do find it rather funny how this is basically the deal for TDA getting completed and it is not circumvention... but the simple retaining for this deal would have been. Nuance is a funny thing.

 

[the_fan]

Just catching some Zzzs here. Wake me up when season starts