The divide in this forum has very little to do with the bruins win/loss record
Boston Bruins 2023-2024 Roster & Salary Cap Discussion IV
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dangermike
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im definitely not calling for him to be traded or benched but i did think he was going to come into this season a little bit different than he has. but i do agree hes been decent with coyle again.
As much as I love to see it, I’d say there is no chance here. This is not Bergy’s style.
DKH
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I see it, you see it, Monty brought it up post game about the chemistry Coyle & Frederic have
Goes back to being drafted in first round albeit last pick of round
He will only be forgiven by winning a Cup and either scoring the Cup clinching goal preferably overtime or getting Conn Smythe trophy
Tim Thomas went from choker who can’t steal a game to sainthood
They are adding Lucic how many you need
Go watch Frederic fight tapes
UncleRico
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I wouldn’t say people are unhappy at all. It’s just the general nature of discussion.
No one is going to sit here and discuss/debate about things they agree on. They see something they agree on and like it and keep scrolling. So the discussion just revolves around things people disagree on.
Right now that’s Debrusk, gryz,forbort, a little bit frederic and if the bruins need two goalies or one.
However I think the vast majority of people are completely happy with 90% of the team at least. Just the select few players that people don’t feel are pulling their weight. Then it’s especially magnified because a lot of them are in contract years.
Saying people are unhappy is a huge stretch.
DKH
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Why? When paired with Coyle they analytically dominate
Grzelcyk as well is a breakout machine
You need to get out of the 70’s and 80’s hockey that ship has failed
There bottom 6 is plenty big, tough, or abrasive enough in todays game
Looking around a few weeks ago I easily put them top 10 probably top 3 but don’t want to upset the Bruins haters that make up a large portion of this board
Most people including myself thought this team would be average this year. A transition year. A wait and see approach until the cap goes up and re-assess what this team lacks/needs.
It's still early in the season but so far this has been a masterclass by Sweeney. Didn't panic buy/trade for a centre or anybody else. I am an Elias Lindholm fan but what the potential ask to acquire him would've been a backwards move and glad Sweeney didn't pull the trigger sending out prospects and picks for Lindholm or anyone else for that matter in the offseason.
Now, Calgary stinks and Lindholm has struggled this year..... Asking price has gone down I'd imagine as has his UFA value.
This just maybe a genius play by Don Sweeney. Bruins best record in the league, no matter what happens come playoff time they will be in a tremendous position next offseason to go shopping all while our young players/prospects continue to get better.
It's still early in the season but so far this has been a masterclass by Sweeney. Didn't panic buy/trade for a centre or anybody else. I am an Elias Lindholm fan but what the potential ask to acquire him would've been a backwards move and glad Sweeney didn't pull the trigger sending out prospects and picks for Lindholm or anyone else for that matter in the offseason.
Now, Calgary stinks and Lindholm has struggled this year..... Asking price has gone down I'd imagine as has his UFA value.
This just maybe a genius play by Don Sweeney. Bruins best record in the league, no matter what happens come playoff time they will be in a tremendous position next offseason to go shopping all while our young players/prospects continue to get better.
DKH
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Probably correct - because my dislike of Belichick right now (I acknowledge the 6 SB and his significant contribution) wants them to lose every game rest of year to get one of top 2 picks and get him out of here
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A big mean clear out the crease and stick up for team mates type physical defenseman isn't much to ask Santa for Christmas is it? Bruins identity type thing ... how many break out puck moving defenseman do we need? A big shot from the point is also missing ..two birds..one stone
DKH
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The Bruins are like the late 60 and early 70 Baltimore Orioles - great pitching (goaltending) and defense (defenseman) and decent offense.
We look at the Sens & Leafs top 6 and think wow but don’t consider the rest of team
Bruins defense is phenomenal- and why Grzelcyk is part of it to me
DKH
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Forbort does it - blocks shots & great in room
Someone has to do the grunt jobs and he does
Lohrei-McAvoy
Lindholm- Carlo
Grzelcyk- Shattenkirk
Forbort
It’s a phenomenal defense - why are we always trying to destroy it
Forbort flawed but he has exactly what you need on PK and clearing out front of net - he actually knows how to do it without cross checking - positioning and moving opponent off spot is a skill
Subtracting Clifton was a great under the radar move
But he was Cliffy hockey - yehaw !!!!
So what is the plan if you were to get a Lindholm. Do you send Zacha back to wing? I guess that is easiest, but Zacha has worked really hard for this opportunity, and has excelled in the role. Does that impact team chemistry?
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I‘ll turn it around a little regarding the “why” and ask what would be the negative aspect if Freddy threw down Tuesday night after Marchand or Pasta got roughed up?
I think people are misunderstanding my feelings about Frederic. I like him, I get his value, but he’s also capable of doing a lot more In regard to hitting and sticking up for teammates.
I only suggested moving him for three reasons:
1. if they could get an equally effective player who is tougher
2. because they’re likely not moving anyone above him on the depth chart
3. his age and contract make him marketable
Lastly, Monty himself has said that they need to be tougher and harder to play against. I’ve enjoyed just about every game this season, probably more than most because I don’t tend to nitpick the mistakes or off periods or games (very few) like many others do. It‘s a fast game and other teams are good too and mistakes will happen.
Also, I have a different opinion of goaltending as it seems like a lot of people feel that it is a negative that they have won a lot of games because their goalies have played very well. My thinking is that goalies are a part of the team and it’s their job to be really good. It’s like complaining that a baseball team is winning a lot just because of their starting pitchers. Their job is to pitch well.
My only and I mean only issues with this team are that, as currently constituted, I don’t think they are tough enough to go deep in the playoffs and they are far too reluctant to address things when teammates are roughed up.
Thats really it.
I know it’s not 1980 anymore…..but with all due respect Florida beat the greatest RS team in history 7 months ago playing a style much closer to 1980’s hockey than what the Bruins are playing right now.
They can continue to be a good team that is tougher to play against, IMO.
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Today’s Globe:
The Bruins have a date awaiting them in Manhattan, a meeting a week from Saturday against the Rangers, and defenseman Matt Grzelcyk is expected to return to the lineup in that matinee matchup at Madison Square Garden.
“Grizzy comes off [the injured list] for the Ranger game, and we think he will be available,” said coach Jim Montgomery, as he provided an update on the club’s wounded following Wednesday’s workout in Brighton.
Meanwhile, per Montgomery, return-to-play dates for Milan Lucic (foot) and Morgan Geekie(unspecified injury) are still to be determined.
“Looch, we don’t have a timeline definitively yet,” added Montgomery, whose squad doesn’t play until the Canadiens visit Causeway Street Saturday night. “And Geekie is going to be, at best, another week … but don’t hold me to that.”
Grzelcyk, viewed by Montgomery as his most “shot-ready” blue liner before exiting the lineup, was felled Oct. 30, departing midway through the first period of a 3-2 overtime win over Florida at the Garden. In his prior eight games, the 29-year-old registered a meager 1-0–1 line.
Provided no one else is forced to exit the lineup, the Bruins presumably would have to make a roster move to add Grzelcyk’s $3.69 million cap hit back on the roster.
The Bruins have a date awaiting them in Manhattan, a meeting a week from Saturday against the Rangers, and defenseman Matt Grzelcyk is expected to return to the lineup in that matinee matchup at Madison Square Garden.
“Grizzy comes off [the injured list] for the Ranger game, and we think he will be available,” said coach Jim Montgomery, as he provided an update on the club’s wounded following Wednesday’s workout in Brighton.
Meanwhile, per Montgomery, return-to-play dates for Milan Lucic (foot) and Morgan Geekie(unspecified injury) are still to be determined.
“Looch, we don’t have a timeline definitively yet,” added Montgomery, whose squad doesn’t play until the Canadiens visit Causeway Street Saturday night. “And Geekie is going to be, at best, another week … but don’t hold me to that.”
Grzelcyk, viewed by Montgomery as his most “shot-ready” blue liner before exiting the lineup, was felled Oct. 30, departing midway through the first period of a 3-2 overtime win over Florida at the Garden. In his prior eight games, the 29-year-old registered a meager 1-0–1 line.
Provided no one else is forced to exit the lineup, the Bruins presumably would have to make a roster move to add Grzelcyk’s $3.69 million cap hit back on the roster.
DKH
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Why would anyone fight without a reason? It’s hockey - watch boxing if you want to see a fight.
If someone cheap shots Frederic or hits Bergeron he fights and knocked guy down and concussed him
You want him to fight because you need it ? I love yeh Al but this is ridiculous and I’m going down the Glorydaze road with you - I like you to much
We aren’t going to agree
Shattenkirk shows me very little, Gryz is a fine player but has not proven to be effective in the playoffs if he is healthy enough to play . I think Forbort is taking more shit from these fans then should be going his way. Mitchell is not more than a 8-9 d-man.
Therick67
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Both the Montreal and Buffalo games had a need for a little push back and Freddy was invisible physically in both games. If that's part of his role, he needs to get involved.
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That’s what you took from that whole post?
That I want him fighting for no reason, like Tie Domi in the 90’s just for cred?
I only want him to fight in response to a teammate getting roughed up. And not every time, and not every teammate. But if a Pasta. Marchand, Poitras etc. takes a shot that is over the line, I don’t see why it’s such a crazy expectation.
Thats all. Just what has happened in the NHL for decades and still happens today. Nothing more.
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Dennis Bonvie
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yes, said it before, will continue on. If the Bruins make a move at Defenseman, it needs to be Shattenkirk who drops to #7 , whether that means because Gyz goes into the lineup ahead of him, or in a deal that brings back a different less expensive.
Shattenkirk is clearly the weakest link at this point, and I don't expect it to get better as those old legs start to really pile on the mileage this year
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