Prospect Info: 2023-2024 Rangers Prospects Thread (Prospect Stats in Post #1; Updated 05.22.2024)

[UAGoalieGuy]

No BC game last night?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

No BC game last night?

there was one they won 6-1.

Gabe went 1-2-3

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

there was one they won 6-1.

Gabe went 1-2-3

Surprised no posts on it here. Kid is Fire.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Surprised no posts on it here. Kid is Fire.

It was in his personal thread that is unpinned.

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[UAGoalieGuy]

The Rangers have a very good pipeline of potential solid bottom 6 players. Something this team has habitually wasted cap dollars on the past ~10 years or so. Allows the Rangers to use their cap space a bit more wisely (hopefully) on the top 6. Some might have a shot as 2nd liners but that's if they max out their potential.

Cuylle, Sykora, Berard, Rempe, Laba, Lamb, Chimlar, Edstrom, BMB

Obviously not all are going to pan out, but I'd say at least half of them likely will in some way shape or form at the NHL level.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Surprised no posts on it here. Kid is Fire.

He is special enough where we talk about him in his own thread below.

 

[kovazub94]

If BMB can become something like Eller that’s a win. I think that more likely the hope than a Stepan

That’s a pretty good comparison. I was also thinking Jets’ Lowry but Eller is even better.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Jets Lowry is a f***ing house and is a beast defensively.

Eller used to be a really good 2 way forward in his prime. Getting that with a 3rd would be a massive hit.

 

[kovazub94]

Jets Lowry is a f***ing house and is a beast defensively.

Eller used to be a really good 2 way forward in his prime. Getting that with a 3rd would be a massive hit.

That’s why I was thinking of him BMB surely got the frame. I’m trying to be a little more reserved on the offensive upside too.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

That’s why I was thinking of him BMB surely got the frame. I’m trying to be a little more reserved on the offensive upside too.

Eh not quite.

BMB is 6'1".

Lowry is 6'5".

BMB has long ass arms though.

 

[bhamill]

The Rangers have a very good pipeline of potential solid bottom 6 players. Something this team has habitually wasted cap dollars on the past ~10 years or so. Allows the Rangers to use their cap space a bit more wisely (hopefully) on the top 6. Some might have a shot as 2nd liners but that's if they max out their potential.

Cuylle, Sykora, Berard, Rempe, Laba, Lamb, Chimlar, Edstrom, BMB

Obviously not all are going to pan out, but I'd say at least half of them likely will in some way shape or form at the NHL level.

“Dead on balls accurate,” as Mona Lisa Vito once said.
You fill your bottom six in with reasonable homegrown contracts and spend your cap wisely on the top six.

 

[kovazub94]

Eh not quite.

BMB is 6'1".

Lowry is 6'5".

BMB has long ass arms though.

6’1’? I’m off then. I knew he wasn’t as big inch for inch but seeing him he on the ice he looked bigger and broader than his competition.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

6’1’? I’m off then. I knew he wasn’t as big inch for inch but seeing him he on the ice he looked bigger and broader than his competition.

6"2 now.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

6’1’? I’m off then. I knew he wasn’t as big inch for inch but seeing him he on the ice he looked bigger and broader than his competition.

He's got long arms and his brother is a trainer so he's he has his shit together physically.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

1+1 for Laba

 

[Clark Kellogg]

 

[Leetch3]

 

[Ranger Ric]

In today's Athletic, Scott Wheeler evaluated the Edmonton Oilers prospects, which he ranked as 25th best in the league. In his analysis he listed former Ranger prospect, Jayden Grubbe, as Edmonton's 13th best prospect. He said the Grubbe hasn't looked out of place with the Bakersfield Condors because he gets more out of his skill level, which he said is not NHL caliber. Wheeler thinks he has a chance to be an AHL role player but notes some think he had a chance to be an NHL fourth liner. He sounded like a good kid and it's too bad he had the serious knee injury but it's not clear that the Rangers made a mistake trading him for a pick that became Rasmus Larsson.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Look forward to him getting tripped into a Habs goalie and being vilified for it a decade later.

His net drive is for real though. He can pick a corner when he has time and space but if he doesn't he's taking it to the paint.

 

[cwede]

... former Ranger prospect, Jayden Grubbe, as Edmonton's 13th best prospect. He said the Grubbe hasn't looked out of place with the Bakersfield Condors because he gets more out of his skill level, which he said is not NHL caliber. Wheeler thinks he has a chance to be an AHL role player but notes some think he had a chance to be an NHL fourth liner...it's not clear that the Rangers made a mistake trading him for a pick that became Rasmus Larsson.

i didn't like that NYR bailed on him rather than sign,
but i like Larsson taking the path of USHL>NCAA>NHL, hoping for a win with him

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

i didn't like that NYR bailed on him rather than sign,
but i like Larsson taking the path of USHL>NCAA>NHL, hoping for a win with him

The whole Grubbe story is messy. He was told by Drury he wasn't getting a contract, then he requested a trade, followed by him being offered an ELC anyway which he then refused to sign.

I'm not losing sleep over Grubbe signing elsewhere but it did give me bad memories of some prospect tales from the past. I hope it's not something that happens regularly because it makes the organisation look bad.

Parents talk, and a lot of prospect parents know each other from running into each other at junior tournaments throughout the years.

 

[kovazub94]

The whole Grubbe story is messy. He was told by Drury he wasn't getting a contract, then he requested a trade, followed by him being offered an ELC anyway which he then refused to sign.

I'm not losing sleep over Grubbe signing elsewhere but it did give me bad memories of some prospect tales from the past. I hope it's not something that happens regularly because it makes the organisation look bad.

Parents talk, and a lot of prospect parents know each other from running into each other at junior tournaments throughout the years.

I agree on Grubbe - remember that whole situation including where it started as the organization taking a high risk / reward gamble on him given his injury history.

On the other hand I have no issues with the way treated prospects in general - the proof is in the pudding as neither Lias nor Vitali amount to nothing after they left "the shackles" of the organization. Both were bad picks and nothing else would be able to fix it.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I agree on Grubbe - remember that whole situation including where it started as the organization taking a high risk / reward gamble on him given his injury history.

On the other hand I have no issues with the way treated prospects in general - the proof is in the pudding as neither Lias nor Vitali amount to nothing after the left "the shackles" of the organization. Both were bad picks and nothing else would be able to fix it.

Bad picks should still be treated the right way, and their lack of success elsewhere doesn't excuse the bad treatment.

Not saying the Grubbe situation was on that level, and during Drury's tenure it's an isolated incident, but what I do know is that the whole saga with Lias and Kravtsov has left the Rangers with a damaged image especially in junior hockey with families. It's not so bad to the point where family members don't want their kid/brother/grandson to be drafted by us, but there is a healthy bit of skepticism that will take a few years to subside completely.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I agree on Grubbe - remember that whole situation including where it started as the organization taking a high risk / reward gamble on him given his injury history.

On the other hand I have no issues with the way treated prospects in general - the proof is in the pudding as neither Lias nor Vitali amount to nothing after the left "the shackles" of the organization. Both were bad picks and nothing else would be able to fix it.

This is the truth.

Ditto Nils who didn't want to put in the work to win a spot here a year after he was undeservingly gift wrapped one that he couldn't hold on to and ended up with a team for whom he's basically been a 6/7th defenseman for him and very well may be on his 3rd team in a few weeks before his ELC is even up.

If theres whining about mistreatment, its coming from a place of entitlement. I don't know enough about the Grubbe situation to say anything one way or another but the other examples are all of kids who thought they were way better than they were and wanted the easy road. f*** Nils got to travel on it - He can't cry because he crashed his own car.

 

[kovazub94]

Bad picks should still be treated the right way, and their lack of success elsewhere doesn't excuse the bad treatment.

Not saying the Grubbe situation was on that level, and during Drury's tenure it's an isolated incident, but what I do know is that the whole saga with Lias and Kravtsov has left the Rangers with a damaged image especially in junior hockey with families. It's not so bad to the point where family members don't want their kid/brother/grandson to be drafted by us, but there is a healthy bit of skepticism that will take a few years to subside completely.

This is the first I hear about it and straight-up knowing your takes from those I mentioned - I won’t put any weight in it until there’s a confirmation from an alternative credible source, no offense.