Prospect Info: 2023 1st Rd Selection - #28 OA (via BOS, WSH) - C, Easton Cowan [London Knights, OHL; [Height 5.11 -- Weight 185]

[NMacrules]

Why are you guys saying Cowan is a bad skater? He is a spectacular skater and the media and pros agree. You can't comment on someones skating ability if you have never put on a pair of skates.

 

[Divine]

lol, some of you can never be happy or what? f***ing 51 straight games with a point and "Hopefully his scoring goes up".

He only has 13 goals in 15 games for f*** sakes, gotta get those secondary assists pumped up or he can never improve as a player!

Relax buddy.

He's the oldest guy in junior now. This isn't the NHL where the players are there every year. The best players leave junior every year and are replaced by rookies. By the time you're at your final junior eligible year, you should be absolutely torching the league. He's playing against 16 year olds while he's 19.

21 points in 15 games for a Draft + 2 first rounder aren't impressive numbers in junior. Maybe they'd be impressive in the NHL.

Heck, Connor Brown, as a 6th round pick put up 128 points in 68 games in junior as a draft + 2 player.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Relax buddy.

He's the oldest guy in junior now. This isn't the NHL where the players are there every year. The best players leave junior every year and are replaced by rookies. By the time you're at your final junior eligible year, you should be absolutely torching the league. He's playing against 16 year olds while he's 19.

21 points in 15 games for a Draft + 2 first rounder aren't impressive numbers in junior. Maybe they'd be impressive in the NHL.

Heck, Connor Brown, as a 6th round pick put up 128 points in 68 games in junior as a draft + 2 player.

Relax how? Did I just tell you he is the best player in junior hockey or something?

I said he scored 13 in 15 and is on a 51 game scoring streak, the second person in the history of the Canadian Hockey league to have accomplished that and your first reaction to that is "yeah but".

Ever been called a negative Nelly before? Your first reaction to something cool was to whine about something else. How about you relax and try and enjoy something you have no control over, lol.


Its a cool ass accomplishment, try not to whine about it.

 

[Divine]

Relax how? Did I just tell you he is the best player in junior hockey or something?

I said he scored 13 in 15 and is on a 51 game scoring streak, the second person in the history of the Canadian Hockey league to have accomplished that and your first reaction to that is "yeah but".

Ever been called a negative Nelly before? Your first reaction to something cool was to whine about something else. How about you relax and try and enjoy something you have no control over, lol.


Its a cool ass accomplishment, try not to whine about it.

When did I say anything about his point streak? Like I said, relax. You're commenting on things that were never said now.

I know he had a great year last year. I'm talking about this year. He looked better in NHL training camp last season too. Compared to last season, this year has been a down year in the OHL for him. Agree or disagree? Generally players are supposed to get better season from season in the OHL.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

When did I say anything about his point streak?

Like I said, relax.

I know he had a great year last year. I'm talking about this year. He looked better in NHL training camp last season too.

I mentioned his scoring streak, I'm the person you responded to, where i mentioned the scoring streak. I even mentioned it again. That was me mentioning it.

All you did was whine about him not getting enough points

 

[Divine]

I mentioned his scoring streak, I'm the person you responded to, where i mentioned the scoring streak. I even mentioned it again. That was me mentioning it.

All you did was whine about him not getting enough points

Yeah, but I don't personally get the benefit of combining 2 seasons stats.

He was great last year. Not so much this year. It's fair for people to comment about his lack of production as a 1st round pick in his draft + 2 year.

You clearly value a point streak more than me, I care more about his overall performance rather than if he gets that empty net point to extend that point streak again.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Yeah, but I don't personally get the benefit of combining 2 seasons stats.

He was great last year. Not so much this year. It's fair for people to comment about his lack of production as a 1st round pick in his draft + 2 year.

Sure, its equally fair for people to comment about how silly it is to whine about his "lack of production" when he is on a 51 game scoring streak and has scored 13 goals in 15 games.

There is no "benefit of combining 2 seasons" its literally the reality of what has happened.

 

[Divine]

Sure, its equally fair for people to comment about how silly it is to whine about his "lack of production" when he is on a 51 game scoring streak and has scored 13 goals in 15 games.

There is no "benefit of combining 2 seasons" its literally the reality of what has happened.

He has not played 51 games this season. The 51 point streak is over 2 seasons - also, who the heck cares? Well, clearly you. I don't.

Maybe the problem is you care about a point streak more than me. You're the one who brought it into the conversation to create a strawman.

Me: "His stats have been down this year. Hopefully he picks it up!"
You: "Wow, so a 51 game point streak isn't good enough for you?! Some people can never be happy!"

Quite the strawman.

It's like if someone says hopefully Matthews picks up his scoring this season and you combine his scoring from last season to make it look more impressive. It's a strawman.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

He has not played 51 games this season. The 51 point streak is over 2 seasons - also, who the heck cares? Well, clearly you. I don't.

Maybe the problem is you care about a point streak more than me. You're the one who brought it into the conversation to create a strawman.

Me: "His stats have been down this year. Hopefully he picks it up!"
You: "Wow, so a 51 game point streak isn't good enough for you?! Some people can never be happy!"

Quite the strawman.

It's like if someone says hopefully Matthews picks up his scoring this season and you combine his scoring from last season to make it look more impressive. It's a strawman.

"IF MATTHEWS DOES X YOU THINK Y?!"

he screeched after calling me a strawman

We are done here, bud. Between the projection of 'relax', 'strawman arguments' and your inability to follow the obvious, clear line of context about the 51 game point streak (literally also was the post before your whiner post) you clearly "dont care" enough to just be confidently incorrect.

 

[Divine]

"IF MATTHEWS DOES X YOU THINK Y?!"

he screeched after calling me a strawman

We are done here, bud. Between the projection of 'relax', 'strawman arguments' and your inability to follow the obvious, clear line of context about the 51 game point streak (literally also was the post before your whiner post) you clearly "dont care" enough to just be confidently incorrect.

if people bring up his stats this year, don't bring up strawman's. A point steak includes his stats, it's not the most important thing in a player's career.

I personally would not view him any differently if he didn't get the empty net assist on game 40. Maybe you would. To each their own.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

He was great last year. Not so much this year. It's fair for people to comment about his lack of production as a 1st round pick in his draft + 2 year.

What games have you watched? He's been fantastic this year in all facets of the game, a true complete player. A huge reason why the Knights are currently on an 11 game winning streak.

Not sure what you're watching exactly to come to this conclusion?

Relax buddy.

He's the oldest guy in junior now. This isn't the NHL where the players are there every year. The best players leave junior every year and are replaced by rookies. By the time you're at your final junior eligible year, you should be absolutely torching the league.

He's not in his last year of junior eligibility.

 

[Divine]

What games have you watched? He's been fantastic this year in all facets of the game, a true complete player. A huge reason why the Knights are currently on an 11 game winning streak.

Not sure what you're watching exactly to come to this conclusion?

Do you think he's playing better this year vs last year? Why did he look much worse in training camp vs last season?

He's not in his last year of junior eligibility.

He is for regular players. The OHL has an exemption for 20+ at 3 per team. It's not the norm.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Do you think he's playing better this year vs last year? Why did he look much worse in training camp vs last season?

Overall game, yes. Hasn't translated to stats and that's fine.

Don't care how he looked in a short camp. Not sure you should either.

He is for regular players. The OHL has an exemption for 20+ at 3 per team. It's not the norm.

So not the oldest guy in junior, or in his last year of junior eligibility. Got it.

 

[Divine]

Overall game, yes. Hasn't translated to stats and that's fine.

Don't care how he looked in a short camp. Not sure you should either.


So not the oldest guy in junior, or in his last year of junior eligibility. Got it.

His team has to pick him. He's not guaranteed to play in junior next year, and it would be a pretty big disappointment (and anomaly) to see a first round pick play his draft +3 in junior.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

His team has to pick him. He's not guaranteed to play in junior next year, and it would be a pretty big disappointment to see a first round pick play his draft +3 in junior.

Not sure what next year has to do with you claiming he's currently the oldest player in junior and in his last year of eligibility this year?

 

[Divine]

Not sure what next year has to do with you claiming he's currently the oldest player in junior and in his last year of eligibility this year?

He's one of the oldest players in junior. Happy?

 

[ULF_55]

if people bring up his stats this year, don't bring up strawman's. A point steak includes his stats, it's not the most important thing in a player's career.

I personally would not view him any differently if he didn't get the empty net assist on game 40. Maybe you would. To each their own.

Just a question on your expectations?

How many goals over the year would you want?

Assists are good, but they are dependent on someone else actually accomplishing the act of scoring.

Assists and block shots perhaps should carry the same weight? Assist you help someone score, blocking a shot is preventing someone from scoring ... but I digress.

How many goals would meet your criteria of a good year?

 

[Divine]

Just a question on your expectations?

How many goals over the year would you want?

Assists are good, but they are dependent on someone else actually accomplishing the act of scoring.

Assists and block shots perhaps should carry the same weight? Assist you help someone score, blocking a shot is preventing someone from scoring ... but I digress.

How many goals would meet your criteria of a good year?

Why is it limited to goals?

Last season - he put up 96 points in 54 games. I would hope he would sustain or surpass those number given another year of development.

He's not (and has never been) a goalscorer, so I'm not expecting 50 goals from him or something.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

He's one of the oldest players in junior. Happy?

He's not though.

Regardless, you never answered my original question. What is it from his games this year you dont like? And what parts of his game do you find particularly disappointing compared to last year?

 

[Divine]

He's not though.

Regardless, you never answered my original question. What is it from his games this year you dont like? And what parts of his game do you find particularly disappointing compared to last year?

Production, speed, defensive awareness. To me, he's objectively taken a step back from last season. He's slower with the puck, slower in transition, and cheating more for offense... while not producing compared to the games I've seen last season.

Edmonton's 7th round centre (Nicholl) from the 2024 draft has looked more impressive to me this year so far.

 

[HairyKneel]

IMHO he's a quicker Kyle Wellwood- 55 -65 points in his best years and not a guy you build around. Still a good pick for where he was picked:

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Production, speed, defensive awareness.

Production, sure. Puck luck hadn't been there like last year, yes.

The other areas are simply not true whatsoever and leads me to believe you really haven't watched many Knights games.

 

[Divine]

Production, sure. Puck luck hadn't been there like last year, yes.

The other areas are simply not true whatsoever and leads me to believe you really haven't watched many Knights games.

I have - but I'm not going to argue with you over it. Clearly if someone doesn't share your opinion it means they're not watching the game. People have different opinions. He's been underwhelming to me. Maybe I expect more than you.

From last season, Nicholl, who was a 7th round centre from 2024 and scored 20 points all season last year - is near Cowan in scoring.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Just a question on your expectations?

How many goals over the year would you want?

Assists are good, but they are dependent on someone else actually accomplishing the act of scoring.

Assists and block shots perhaps should carry the same weight? Assist you help someone score, blocking a shot is preventing someone from scoring ... but I digress.

How many goals would meet your criteria of a good year?

Why the emphasis on production/numbers anyway.

Ebbs and flows of Junior hockey. Just a few days ago many were wondering what was wrong with Quinten Musty and his production...... Then boom... 9 primary points in 2 games and all is right again.

As a Wolves ticket holder you knew it was a matter of time, he was doing all the little things right that he wasn't doing in years past.

Same goes for Cowan..... The production will come....
Already is tbh.

From last season, Nicholl, who was a 7th round centre from 2024 and scored 20 points all season last year - is near Cowan in scoring.

Fantastic. What's your point?

 

[Divine]

Fantastic. What's your point?

The same it's been since the original post. He's under performing. Sure - some people like to hype up that point streak with the empty net points to keep it alive throughout last season, but it's not that important to me personally.