GDT: 2022 WJC Gold Medal Game FIN vs CAN 6pm MT, 8pm ET 2022-08-20

[Oilslick941611]

Canada was lucky with the paid refs.

I know but us and A paid with weed.

Canada is known by potheads

Wtf?!?!?

 

[Elvs]

Tell me how I am wrong...

Jarvis
Byfield
Power
Clarke
Drysdale
Sillinger
Wright
Guenther
Guhle
Perfetti
Lapierre

These guys would all be among the best players in the tournament.

It's better to argue with fact rather then ad homenem attacks against a country.

That's only 11 players, not 20+ or 40+. In other words, Canada had half it's A team and half it's B team.

By comparison, Slovakia missed Nemec, Knazko and Stacha (that's their #1, #2 and #3 defenseman) as well as Slafkovsky and Chromiak (their #1 and #2 winger) and Kolenic and Ciernik (both middle six forwards).

Who should we pity more? The one with 345 000 registred hockey players or the one with less than 11 000?

It's very rare that regular NHL players participate in the World Juniors. It's to be expected.

 

[ORRFForever]

I saw it on TSN after I asked. I did NOT like the swearing but... can't fault him for being honest.

 

[Statsy]

That's only 11 players, not 20+ or 40+. In other words, Canada had half it's A team and half it's B team.

By comparison, Slovakia missed Nemec, Knazko and Stacha (that's their #1, #2 and #3 defenseman) as well as Slafkovsky and Chromiak (their #1 and #2 winger) and Kolenic and Ciernik (both middle six forwards).

Who should we pity more? The one with 345 000 registred hockey players or the one with less than 11 000?

It's very rare that regular NHL players participate in the World Juniors. It's to be expected.

But we absolutely DO pity the losses that Slovakia suffered. They just don’t have the depth to overcome that like Canada did, and that unfortunately showed in the standings.

But here’s the thing… Canada can’t do this every year. This just happened to be a particularly strong birth year that we could lose that many top players (double our usual player losses) and still field not just a competitive team, but a dominant one.

 

[Peiskos]

True

With help from officials, also true


So why are you whining then?

Haha cry more. Maybe Finland should clean up its game, it’s easy taking penalties when you can’t keep up with the other team, naturally it leads to a lot of slashing, hooking and making questionable hits. Ultimately this is what sank the Finns, lack of composure and discipline.

 

[NyQuil]

Haha cry more. Maybe Finland should clean up its game, it’s easy taking penalties when you can’t keep up with the other team, naturally it leads to a lot of slashing, hooking and making questionable hits. Ultimately this is what sank the Finns, lack of composure and discipline.

It's funny to read the post-game posts after the WHC final and then this one.

The "suck it up!" crowd are now outraged and vice versa.

 

[MM917]

When it comes to reffing and people crying about the amount of penalties, not the actual penalties it always makes me laugh.

Do people think the penalties should be even between both teams regardless of what actually happens on the ice? Which specific penalties were bad? None. The worst call of the night was the Canadian slash, that was soft as butter.

Are the refs supposed to ignore the multiple clear cut penalties the Finns were taking because the Canadians weren't also making stupid plays and taking penalties? Should the refs called phantom penalties against the Canadians so that the number of calls is even?

 

[ORRFForever]

When it comes to reffing and people crying about the amount of penalties, not the actual penalties it always makes me laugh.

Do people think the penalties should be even between both teams regardless of what actually happens on the ice? Which specific penalties were bad? None. The worst call of the night was the Canadian slash, that was soft as butter.

Are the refs supposed to ignore the multiple clear cut penalties the Finns were taking because the Canadians weren't also making stupid plays and taking penalties? Should the refs called phantom penalties against the Canadians so that the number of calls is even?

Those same fans loved it when Canada lost at the World Championship over endless calls so...

The Fins won the World Championship - which means a LOT to them.
We won the World Juniors - which means a LOT to us.

Let's call it even.

It's funny to read the post-game posts after the WHC final and then this one.

The "suck it up!" crowd are now outraged and vice versa.

Exactly.

 

[Silky Johnson]

That's only 11 players, not 20+ or 40+. In other words, Canada had half it's A team and half it's B team.

By comparison, Slovakia missed Nemec, Knazko and Stacha (that's their #1, #2 and #3 defenseman) as well as Slafkovsky and Chromiak (their #1 and #2 winger) and Kolenic and Ciernik (both middle six forwards).

Who should we pity more? The one with 345 000 registred hockey players or the one with less than 11 000?

It's very rare that regular NHL players participate in the World Juniors. It's to be expected.

That was off the top of my head. Using those 11 as a base it would be extremely easy to build a Canada Super Team.

Byfield-Jarvis-Wright-Sillinger is amazing Centre depth.

Top 4 of

Drysdale - Power
Clarke - Guhle

Better than any two other team in tournament together.

Slovakia definitely suffered from a lack of players but don't get close to a Team Canada either way.

USA is also missing quality players. Finland particularly isn't.

If you want to go through the exercise, I'll build a second Canadian Roster. You build a second roster of any other countries and we compare?

 

[ORRFForever]

That was off the top of my head. Using those 11 as a base it would be extremely easy to build a Canada Super Team.

Byfield-Jarvis-Wright-Sillinger is amazing Centre depth.

Top 4 of

Drysdale - Power
Clarke - Guhle

Better than any two other team in tournament together.

Slovakia definitely suffered from a lack of players but don't get close to a Team Canada either way.

USA is also missing quality players. Finland particularly isn't.

If you want to go through the exercise, I'll build a second Canadian Roster. You build a second roster of any other countries and we compare?

It was a year when we could have truly had 2 teams compete for Gold.

 

[edd1e]

It's funny to read the post-game posts after the WHC final and then this one.

The "suck it up!" crowd are now outraged and vice versa.

It kinda always is the same crowd.. take it with a grain of salt is my opinion.

 

[nucks88]

Congrats Canada would've been a disaster if you didn't win when you're playing 9v5!

10v6…..goalies count too….

 

[sakux]

10v6…..goalies are human too….

Are you sure about that?

I always found goalies to be some other strange species.

 

[snipes]

nice game! had to wake up and watch the replay on Booxtv. Hockey is truly a game of inches.

Much like life my friend, that’s why we love sports. Life is a game of inches. A small decision here or there can alter our paths and fate.

Snipes jr. was in bed last night and didn’t get to see the OT. When I showed him the OT this morning I still jumped out of my seat on the McTavish save and OT goal a minute or so later. Just an incredible sequence.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I saw it on TSN after I asked. I did NOT like the swearing but... can't fault him for being honest.

Already more personality than Mcdavid and Matthews combined

 

[snipes]

Already more personality than Mcdavid and Matthews combined

He’s got some jam in his game too, Bedard threw a few huge hits in the playoff rounds of the WJC. I liked the intensity from him.

He plays in the WHL which is far and away the most physical/violent junior hockey league in the world. We love our physical brand of tough hockey in Western Canada and always will.

Seeing smaller WHL guys like him and Stankoven just trucking guys was awesome to see. Those guys aren’t going to back down and will lower the boom themselves.

 

[Dingo]

I used to get mad at these comments, but I can't anymore. Keep it up.

I love how the general stereotype about Canadians is that they are very humble and nice, yet when it comes to hockey, it's the complete opposite... Well, I'll allow one thing to get very cocky about, could be a worse thing.

Drives me crazy as a Canadian. Very unselfaware.

We also have two really conflicting lines that have been being said for as long as ive been alive

”We have so much depth we could field three teams and win all three medals!”

and

”We only lost because we were missing a top player!”

 

[Snowsii]

That was off the top of my head. Using those 11 as a base it would be extremely easy to build a Canada Super Team.

Byfield-Jarvis-Wright-Sillinger is amazing Centre depth.

Top 4 of

Drysdale - Power
Clarke - Guhle

Better than any two other team in tournament together.

Slovakia definitely suffered from a lack of players but don't get close to a Team Canada either way.

USA is also missing quality players. Finland particularly isn't.

If you want to go through the exercise, I'll build a second Canadian Roster. You build a second roster of any other countries and we compare?

Lol... stars doesnt allways mean everything... If they would, Finland wouldnt have won gold @ 2019

 

[Silky Johnson]

Lol... stars doesnt allways mean everything... If they would, Finland wouldnt have won gold @ 2019

Sometimes things go wrong but I'm pretty sure I would rather have better player...

 

[Snowsii]

Sometimes things go wrong but I'm pretty sure I would rather have better player...

Would you rather have better players and bad coach? Or worse players, and far better coach?? Finland won three times in a row far better teams in that tournament

 

[Guardian17]

Canada was very fortunate to win that game after that chance the Finns had in OT.

Nevertheless, it was a great feeling when we won!

 

[Fraser28]

I saw it on TSN after I asked. I did NOT like the swearing but... can't fault him for being honest.

The swearing is what makes it so good.

 

[57special]

My impressions;

Canada started out on fire, then relaxed, and completely botched the numerous PP's they had. Bedard should not be on the bumper, and is completely unsuitable to be net front screening the goalie I don't know how many times i saw him (and McT?) standing off to the side hoping for a rebound off a long shot, rather than screening the goalie, and facing the shooter looking for a tip.
-Garand was very good.

- Finland made it hard on themselves by taking all the penalties, but persevered. Merilainen was an unsung star in this tournament, IMO. People are overlooking how great of an initial save he made on Johnson on the GWG. Raty looks vg, as did Jurmo, and numerous other players. Finland could easily have won the game, but have to learn to play hard(which they do) w/o penalties. I noticed a funny turnaround in this tournament compared to decades past. The Euro teams, for the most part, played chippier, and could've been called for a lot more penalties. IMO the refs let a lot of obstruction calls go, resulting in poorer on ice action. I know Finn fans might feel that the refs favored CAN, but what i saw was a game in which FIN could've been called for even more PIM. I saw a couple of blatant trips go uncalled, as well as a lot of interference. The Canadians seemed more disciplined- again, it seemed like a role reversal from years ago.

- Nonetheless, really good game from Finland. A bit more discipline, a bit more luck, and they would have been the winners. Really looking forward to seeing how they do in January, as well as Canada- surely Sweden will be better? They sucked, and I don't think it was a talent issue. Coaching I think? The lack of immediacy compared to Finland and Canada was obvious.

Both goaltenders were vg, and I'm glad that the game was decided by the players, and not the refs. Was stunned that the puck didn't cross the goal line in OT...i thought for sure that it was going to be reviewed and declared the winner.

Oh, and Hockey Canada mismanagement of this tournament was an embarrassment. Greedy bastards trying to make hockey a sport for the ultra rich rather than for the masses. You can't tell me that they wouldn't get people in the stands in EDM if they kept the prices reasonable. HC needs all new management.

 

[illone84]

Much like life my friend, that’s why we love sports. Life is a game of inches. A small decision here or there can alter our paths and fate.

Snipes jr. was in bed last night and didn’t get to see the OT. When I showed him the OT this morning I still jumped out of my seat on the McTavish save and OT goal a minute or so later. Just an incredible sequence.

Indeed, well said! Let's not forget the 2019 wjc qf Fin vs Can in VanCity. The chain of events that lead to the Canadian player's stick breaking - shooting wide, and the puck getting turned out quickly for a counter attack and it was over. Couldn't have been a worse break for Canada, and this time around lady luck favoured the black & red jerseys in that McTavish game saver. Like they say, good to be lucky, lucky to be good. Can't wait for the wjc to be played in the Maritimes again. If my memory serves me right, the last time was in 2003 in Halifax/Sydney (Rus vs Can showdown). Wouldn't be surprised to see a rematch Can vs Fin!

 

[MM917]

I don’t think Merilainen played for Finland in the final. So you mean Jatkola (sp?) who played for them.