jj cale
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I hate to pile on the kid but he basically does nothing out there.
WJC: 2022 Team Canada Roster Talk, Part II
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ORRFForever
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I miss having hockey, today. I'll miss it even more in a week when it's over.
To all the IIHF / Hockey Canada people who put this tournament on...
Thank you. It made summer even better.
To all the IIHF / Hockey Canada people who put this tournament on...
Thank you. It made summer even better.
ORRFForever
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After the Round Robin, it's hard not to feel great about this team...
* The offense has been spectacular - comes in waves and never stops.
* The D has been terrific but not flawless - clear the flipping puck!!!
* The goaltending has been SOLID - best in the tournament.
To lose 13(?)+ players, something that would cripple any other country, and still be the best team in the tournament makes me proud - and, to know the NEXT DRAFT CLASS IS EVEN BETTER, well, that's just icing on the cake.
Of course, anything can happen but, if I had to bet my last $100, I'd bet on Team Canada winning Gold.
Bravo young Canadian hockey players and Hockey Canada.
* The offense has been spectacular - comes in waves and never stops.
* The D has been terrific but not flawless - clear the flipping puck!!!
* The goaltending has been SOLID - best in the tournament.
To lose 13(?)+ players, something that would cripple any other country, and still be the best team in the tournament makes me proud - and, to know the NEXT DRAFT CLASS IS EVEN BETTER, well, that's just icing on the cake.
Of course, anything can happen but, if I had to bet my last $100, I'd bet on Team Canada winning Gold.
Bravo young Canadian hockey players and Hockey Canada.
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I agree that Johnson has been the weak link on the PP so far this tournament. His overall game has been pretty mediocre so far.
Peasy
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Put McTavish in Johnson's spot, and find someone else to sit in front. Dont know why this is so difficult for them to realize.
Pavel Buchnevich
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It's a high standard to try to project this to the NHL. Most of the draft picks at this tournament will not be successful NHL'ers. Scoring a lot of points in the Q is something many do. Desnoyers defense hasn't been too good either, which is supposed to be one of his strengths for this team.
I'm very hard and realistic on these Ranger kids also, so Cuylle's play hasn't been good enough either to me. Stupid play with the knee. Unfortunately, we've now had three of these kids kicked out of games at this tournament due to these plays, and one of them was friendly fire. This one was probably the least stupid. He didn't exactly line the Finnish player up for a long time to knee him. Just a little slow to make a play on the puck or make a hit, and stuck out his knee because of it. Cuylle's skating still needs to improve, and you could see it with that play. If he's a step quicker, that play may look different. I feel like he at least has a use and a role at this tournament and projecting to the NHL. He just hasn't been at his best. He's a grinder who can hit, win puck battles in the corners, go to the net, and has a long history of scoring goals. I'm not sure he has the skating, playmaking, or puck skills to project as more than a 3LW. I would say his ceiling is 2LW, floor is 4LW, and most likely projection is 3LW.
jj cale
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Even watching Desnoyer skate is mildly painful for me, he doesn't get to the plays and when a play happens to run into him he does nothing with it defensively or offensively.
He's a guy to fill a roster spot so far, it was the same thing last December. Not sure what it is they see in him. Hope he shows me something, anything, soon
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Not sure if already discussed. Kind of late to bring this up now...
But is there a reason some names are off the roster. For example Wyatt Johnston, Ceulemans, Clarke. Just didnt make the final cut? Or didnt even try out?
But is there a reason some names are off the roster. For example Wyatt Johnston, Ceulemans, Clarke. Just didnt make the final cut? Or didnt even try out?
Is Riley Kidney healthy? We have expanded rosters this year, so we can scratch a player that isn’t performing and get Kidney in the lineup.
Although, I took Desnoyers in one of my pools so maybe leave him in and I can hope a puck just hits him and deflects in by accident or something.
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Desnoyers had a good camp and looked well suited to a classic fourth line role. He was a very good junior player as well. He's certainly been bad at this tournament though. The play dies whenever it goes near him offensively and defensively he mostly just chases it around. You can get some reasonable penalty killing out of him at this level but he doesn't need a regular shift at even strength as the games start to matter.
Seems that Johnston is injured, the other two just didn't make it despite ample space for defencemen and the shortage of right shots.
Seems that Johnston is injured, the other two just didn't make it despite ample space for defencemen and the shortage of right shots.
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jj cale
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He's healthy as far as I know.Is Riley Kidney healthy? We have expanded rosters this year, so we can scratch a player that isn’t performing and get Kidney in the lineup.
Although, I took Desnoyers in one of my pools so maybe leave him in and I can hope a puck just hits him and deflects in by accident or something.
Desnoyer seems to have been taken here for a defensive role but you can't fill a role if you can't even get into the play. I don't get it, he accomplishes so very little out there every shift.
He sort of just skates around, clocks out his time quietly as possible, and goes back to the bench. I can't say the guy has really hurt us yet but he hasn't done one single thing to help us, he's just dead weight.
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Johnston has been nursing a back injury since the OHL playoffs. He didn't skate at the Stars development camp either.
Is Riley Kidney healthy? We have expanded rosters this year, so we can scratch a player that isn’t performing and get Kidney in the lineup.
Although, I took Desnoyers in one of my pools so maybe leave him in and I can hope a puck just hits him and deflects in by accident or something.
Not sure if Kidney can be effective in a 4th liner type role. Figured he's there more as insurance for injury to a C in top 9/offensive help.
The inability of players to use a backhand is noticeable.
In general, i thought the "no name" D of Seely, Sebrango, ROR, and Del Maestro held up well. Thompson was also surprisingly good defensively, and had some key shot blocks.
Gaucher stuck out to me as a guy who really lived up to his billing as a superior defensive player. Always on the right side of the puck, composed, physical, but smart about it. He won't score many points, but will be a reason that this team is able to shut down other teams.
While the top two lines are obviously able to put the puck in the net, they also got hemmed in their own end quite a bit.
Grieg is reminding me of Mercer a bit. Jack of all trades with a tough, competitive, spirit.
Obvious Fabertism
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Ceulemans looked horrendous in camp so not a surprise they left him off, like bad enough that winter is questionable too.
jj cale
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It’s pretty clear from our last game that we have our checking line and Desnoyers isn’t on it. He’s supposed to be a top nine offensive guy, but it’s just not working out at the moment. I would give Kidney a try in the next game.
…Unless he’s hurt and it turns out we have a damaged Kidney.
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I agree. I worry it will eventually come back to haunt us - when teams have a chance to clear the zone and fail, all too often it ends up in their net.
I hope they evaluate Ceulemans based on his college games instead. Scrimmages are not as informative.
I just hope that one day Corson Ceulemans gets to play with Karson Kuhlman. Really mess up the play-by-play guy.
canuck2010
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Nothing worse than the old Pens line of Schinkel, Shack and Shock.I just hope that one day Corson Ceulemans gets to play with Karson Kuhlman. Really mess up the play-by-play guy.
