Speculation: 2022 Summer/off season Sharks Roster Discussion

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timorous me

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Washington, Arizona, Buffalo, Ottawa all need starters. Rangers, Philadelphia could probably use solid backups.
The Caps feel to me like a very good fit for Reimer. They've got Samsonov, so he wouldn't have to be overtaxed. Not sure what they'd be willing to offer. If not good enough, maybe take your chances on waiting until the deadline. Hill is the issue in that equation, though.
 

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It was less than a week ago that I was pilloried for suggesting the Sharks shouldn't qualify Dahlen because his inflated counting stats make him an arbitration risk when in reality he is a completely useless player.

It's hard being right about everything all the time.
 

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I like Dahlen. With that being said, I don’t necessarily think he fits the vision Grier has for a physical, high tempo, hard to play against, team.
Agreed. Dahlin had a great month or so, but hes not a good player to build around. Id like to see gregor and balcers continue to get a good look. Gregor espcially is so fast so if he can learn to finish once in a while, he could explode on the scene. The sharks need to get faster all over. hertl, meier and cooch are great players, but none would be considered fast (meier maybe). The league is dominated by mckinnons and mcdavids. Id like to see the sharks play a faster game to match some of that speed.
 

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The most important off season move will be the head coach. They right guy instilling the right culture will transform the whole org. Gerard gallant takes a rag tag start vegas team and dominates off the bat turning a 4th line nobody named William karlsson into a superstar. then, he goes the NYR and improves them 50 points. Trotz similarly transforms the islanders in 2018.

And coaches like Deboer do the opposite. they take good teams and make them tank. Boughner was a terrible hire too.

If Grier finds the right guy, who instills the right work ethic and attention to detail, then the sharks could contend very quickly. I personally think coaches matter the most in hockey over any other sport (see how Lemaire transformed the whole sport and changed the rules with the investion of the trap). The right coach will get a ton out of the young guys: Bordeleau, Eklund, Gregor, balcers, Ferraro, Merkley, Reedy, etc. They need a good system and they could surprise. The coach is SOOO big.
 

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What are our realistic expectations for Vèronneau? He really had a very good season in the SHL. Maybe Dahlens replacement if he shows well in training camp and the pre season?

 
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It was less than a week ago that I was pilloried for suggesting the Sharks shouldn't qualify Dahlen because his inflated counting stats make him an arbitration risk when in reality he is a completely useless player.

It's hard being right about everything all the time.
Team has been making poor decision after poor decision but THIS is the one they’re right about?

Nope. This is another ridiculous decision, and is definitely not a good sign of things to come in Grier’s tenure.

Even if you didn’t want to keep Dahlen, this is just ridiculous asset management.
 
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Team has been making poor decision after poor decision but THIS is the one they’re right about?

Nope. This is another ridiculous decision, and is definitely not a good sign of things to come in Grier’s tenure.

Even if you didn’t want to keep Dahlen, this is just ridiculous asset management.
Granted, it’s all speculation as of right now. If Grier can get something for Dahlen then I’d prefer he do that. Grier’s gonna build this team how he sees fit. Dahlen did some good things, I just don’t think he’s the kind of player this org will covet going forward.
 
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I agree if you can get something for Dahlen that would be ideal. That being said, he really was underwhelming and unnoticeable for the majority of the season. I’m sure covid and injury played a part in that but guys like Reedy and Chmelevski showed much better.
 

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Team has been making poor decision after poor decision but THIS is the one they’re right about?

Nope. This is another ridiculous decision, and is definitely not a good sign of things to come in Grier’s tenure.

Even if you didn’t want to keep Dahlen, this is just ridiculous asset management.
As I tried to explain to you he is not an asset due to the real risk of arbitration awarding him more than he's actually worth. If they could get anything for Dahlen they would trade him.
 
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QOs due tomorrow.

Sharks RFAs: Kähkönen*, Sawchenko*. Ferraro, Kunin*, Meloche*, B Pasichnuk. Blichfield (signs with SEL team, but they could QO to retain rights), Chmelevski, Dahlen*, Gadjovich, Gregor, Morand

Gallant, McGrew are group 1 free agents.
 
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QOs due tomorrow.

Sharks RFAs: Kähkönen*, Sawchenko*. Ferraro, Kunin*, Meloche*, B Pasichnuk. Blichfield (signs with SEL team, but they could QO to retain rights), Chmelevski, Dahlen*, Gadjovich, Gregor, Morand

Gallant, McGrew are group 1 free agents.

What are the asterisks next to the names? Thought it was who you thought they’d qualify but then I realized Ferraro doesn’t have one.
 

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QOs due tomorrow.

Sharks RFAs: Kähkönen*, Sawchenko*. Ferraro, Kunin*, Meloche*, B Pasichnuk. Blichfield (signs with SEL team, but they could QO to retain rights), Chmelevski, Dahlen*, Gadjovich, Gregor, Morand

Gallant, McGrew are group 1 free agents.

Sheng's tweet was already posted on this page by @themelkman.
 

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As I tried to explain to you he is not an asset due to the real risk of arbitration awarding him more than he's actually worth. If they could get anything for Dahlen they would trade him.
The Sharks can walk away from the arbitration award and Dahlen would become a UFA. There's no risk in qualifying him and paying him near league minimum.
 

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It was less than a week ago that I was pilloried for suggesting the Sharks shouldn't qualify Dahlen because his inflated counting stats make him an arbitration risk when in reality he is a completely useless player.

It's hard being right about everything all the time.
I like how you whine so hard about a minor disagreement to make it out like you got pilloried…really? Then turn around and act like you’re right about everything all the time. All while making the conversations different than they actually were. You’re so bad faith here.
 

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The Sharks can walk away from the arbitration award and Dahlen would become a UFA. There's no risk in qualifying him and paying him near league minimum.
As much as I think Dahlen doesn’t have a spot on this team, this is exactly what I’m thinking. Sharks are guessing what he’d be getting and saying nah. I’d do it simply to open the second buyout window without pissing off an important player.
 
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Hodge

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The Sharks can walk away from the arbitration award and Dahlen would become a UFA. There's no risk in qualifying him and paying him near league minimum.
Except you literally can’t walk away from any arbitration award of less than $4.5M/year. It’s almost like the organization understands the CBA better than everyone here.
 

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Except you literally can’t walk away from any arbitration award of less than $4.5M/year. It’s almost like the organization understands the CBA better than everyone here.
It’s not like the Sharks need the cap space. Take the 2M he receives on a 1 year deal and try to trade it. If you can’t let him walk. Open up the second buyout window just in case something crazy happens.
 
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