NHL 2022-out of town thread III - Marty Walsh reportedly in the mix to become director of NHL Players’ Association

[GordonHowe]

I knew he had a mouth. He's got a decent left hook, too!

 

[BruinDust]

the other thing that's important that the league will be reviewing tape for - Reaves and Hronek got into it prior to this, so there's precedent that Reaves was looking for him and therfor there is intent to injure

That certainly won't help his (Reaves) cause.

 

[BMC]

principle point of contact is the head though which is a no no

If Reaves had kept his shoulder tucked in & arms down it would have been fine, but his arms were up all the way. Caught Hronek in the face with his left forearm.

 

[GordonHowe]

 

[BruinDust]

Bingo.

Bad hit. To the head. Repeat. To the head.

CTE anyone?

Is there ever any onus on the player to protect himself from potential contact? Intentional or not intentional every collision on the ice has the potential for head contact. Hronek skates straight up the middle with the puck and literally looks back over his shoulder.

 

[GordonHowe]

This sh*t is gold!

You guys have made my day.

 

[Ddawg]

I miss a certain poster who adamantly claimed that the B's would never win a cup with Thomas.. I really miss his posts. What his tag line, oh yeah Later Jeff from Maine.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

If Reaves had kept his shoulder tucked in & arms down it would have been fine, but his arms were up all the way. Caught Hronek in the face with his left forearm.

He did...

 

[GordonHowe]

I think the marbles left town years ago

That is the definition of a goaltender.

They're nuts. They wouldn't play the position otherwise.

Nuts.

(In a good way.)

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Is there ever any onus on the player to protect himself from potential contact? Intentional or not intentional every collision on the ice has the potential for head contact. Hronek skates straight up the middle with the puck and literally looks back over his shoulder.

Just because the old lady is jaywalking does not mean you gun it.

 

[GordonHowe]

Meanwhile, in New York

What's he mad about?

These guys are so sensitive.

 

[BruinDust]

Just because the old lady is jaywalking does not mean you gun it.

I don't get the analogy. Sorry. Your comparing a body-check in a hockey game to running a person over with a car? Bizarre take.

 

[GordonHowe]

I am a big Binnington fan. He is a good goalie who is wound a little tight and has very bad games when he is bad. There is nothing wrong with either thing. I would take him in a second, if we needed a goalie. He absolutely hates to lose and that is not easy to find even in good goalers.

I understand what you're saying. There are all types of goaltenders.

Temperamentally:

Terry Sawchuck.

Gerry Cheevers.

Mechanics/Style:

Ken Dryden.

Dominik Hašek.

Can a guy stop the puck? That's all that matters.

As noted earlier, a goodly percentage of them are, shall I say, special.

I do think that a guy like Binnington, obviously, can allow his emotions to get the better of him. Roy was like that, too.

Billy Smith, on the other hand, was clinical and quite deliberate about his dirty play . He wasn't going to take any crap, and he was always looking for a psychological advantage. A sly, smart bugger, and a hell of a goaltender.

 

[GordonHowe]

I go to a fair amount of Rags games and was invited last night . . . didn't go. Trouba is wildly inconsistent and needs to stop taking ill-timed penalties. My Rags friends see him as poor choice for the "C" - not sure last night helped him in the locker room.

I thought Trochek would really help them . . .and he may. They will be a dangerous #7-8 seed to play. But right now, there seems like zero cohesiveness on the bench. I see them shaking up that roster, upgrading Halak.

What precipitated Trouba's outburst?

 

[GordonHowe]

Overall s--show it net for the Blues, as Greiss replaces Binnington and starts his evening by tumbling in to the net(1:50 mark of clip below), to the delight of the PPG crowd.

That was hilarious.

 

[GordonHowe]

Binnington needs someone to humble him with a good beating..

It appears he's had plenty of those. In net, anyway.

 

[GordonHowe]

Ryan Reaves has 3 points in his last 2 games lol...stupid Rangers giving up on him

I didn't like that hit but many seem to think he's a meathead who is a perpetual scratch.

That's the reaction I received when posting about Reaves in the past. I'd take him. Even as a healthy scratch, it's not a bad thing to have a guy like that around. If he were in Boston I'd love him.

 

[GordonHowe]

I'd say Trouba can lay a hit better than any other player in the current NHL. That was a beauty. Good response from Chicago too, the captain was right in there sticking up for his teammate. I also really liked Goodrow patting Murphy on the back after their tilt, as if to say, "well done, you did the right thing stepping in, fair fight".

The Rangers need more guys as invested as Trouba is at the moment.

You didn't find that a more than questionable hit?

Where was the point of contact?

This shit can't happen anymore. Sorry. Not sorry.

 

[GordonHowe]

Is there ever any onus on the player to protect himself from potential contact? Intentional or not intentional every collision on the ice has the potential for head contact. Hronek skates straight up the middle with the puck and literally looks back over his shoulder.

Of course there is.

But you know, a lot of hockey people said the same thing when Jones drilled Patrice from behind.

Bergeron may have made himself vulnerable but Jones went ahead and delivered the "check" from behind, knowing Patrice didn't see him.



"I'm not that kind of player."

 

[Aussie Bruin]

You didn't find that a more than questionable hit?

Where was the point of contact?

This shit can't happen anymore. Sorry. Not sorry.

Which hit are you talking about?

 

[GordonHowe]

Which hit are you talking about?

The Trouba hit. You can throw Reaves in there too if you like.

 

[Sheppy]

Binnington seems like a guy I'd immediately have words with. He seems like the type of shit bag that won't say please or thank you. Guy just comes across as a complete dipshit, pretentious asshole.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

The Trouba hit. You can throw Reaves in there too if you like.

Trouba's principle point of contact was the shoulder/chest. Absolutely clean hit. Zero issue with it. Athanasiou needs to stop whining about getting lit up and start skating with his head up.

Reaves hit was different - definitely high and very sloppy.

 

[GordonHowe]

Trouba's principle point of contact was the shoulder/chest. Absolutely clean hit. Zero issue with it. Athanasiou needs to stop whining about getting lit up and start skating with his head up.

Reaves hit was different - definitely high and very sloppy.

I don't disagree per Athanasiou. I still think it's bad. You can say Trouba didn't directly elbow the guy in the head, but to me, the principle point of contact, essentially, was AA's head. That's my opinion.

Look at it a few more times,

 

[BruinDust]

Of course there is.

But you know, a lot of hockey people said the same thing when Jones drilled Patrice from behind.

Bergeron may have made himself vulnerable but Jones went ahead and delivered the "check" from behind, knowing Patrice didn't see him.



"I'm not that kind of player."

Did they? Because seems pretty clear that Jones has his arms pressing on the Bergeron's numbers about 4 feet out from the boards. Sure you get some hits from behind where the guy who gets to the puck first turns last second and gets nailed in the numbers but that wasn't the case here.

If it was like international hockey where any contact to head is penalized that would be one thing. But it's not the rule and the initial point of contact is actually Reaves elbow to Hronek's shoulder. I don't see Reaves jump into the hit and his feet were planted/gliding. I thought it was the right call to not penalize the hit. Hronek needs to learn to keep his head up when carrying the puck up ice.

If that hit needs to be removed from the game, than it's time to outlaw open ice hitting, because that was a clean open ice hit.