I expect a few trades personally, and for some solid/good players to be going out. It looks logjammed and strange now but if it gets cashed in properly we'll be glad we had all that forward depth. Far easier said than done though.
Speculation: 2022 off-season discussion
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Hello Johnny
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One thing IMO that led to the brief success of the teams from a few years ago was the fact that Werenski, Bjorky, Anderson, and others had success in the AHL and grew chemistry. My hope is that they stack the AHL team and let KJ, Marchenko, Foudy, Angle, TFW, Tarasov, et al. marinate for a minute.
I think this would help foster a winning culture for the future core of this team and lead to more sustained success.
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Gus will be gone after/during next year
Jake in 2 years
I say keep as many kids in Cleveland as possible including Sillinger and Chinakhov. I doubt Jarmo would do that and I'm pretty sure most here would not go for that either.
Personally I beleive the Jackets slightly overachieved this year and will be hard pressed to be better next year. Therefore I'd go with the strong Cleveland team approach rather than trying t push towards the playoff with no real chance of winning.
I'm so confused by this.
Having a bunch of raw rookies on the NHL team makes the team worse. If you want a playoff push you send them down.
I know you're on my side of this Espen, I'm just wondering if people are generally confused about the contribution of kids like Chinakhov and Sillinger to the team this year. Danforth has frankly done more for our success. Kuraly and Robinson have done much more. And that's to be expected, maturity matters.
If you want a run at Bedard, then keep KJ and Chinakhov and so on on the NHL team.
My somewhat cynical suspicion is that Jarmo wants the team to make a playoff push but he'll also keep the prized rookies in the NHL because he's a shiny new toy addict, just like the worst of us.
NHL
Nyquist - Roslovic - Laine
Voracek - Sillinger - Bemstrom
Texier - Jenner - Bjorkstrand
Robinson - Kuraly - Danforth
Meyer
AHL
Marchenko - Johnson - Chinakhov
Foudy - Angle - TFW
etc..... etc....
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Agree with the concept. But 93-34-52 is not working (yet). Not sure why. I’d maybe flip 34 and 38.
This off season will be a challenge tor Jarmo to demonstrate that he really has long term vision.
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I am under no illusions, and I am ok with another down year. It is not just about Bedard - next year is loaded with centers. I’d be happy with Fantilli, Ritchie, Dvorsky, Carlsson, Wood, or Will Smith in the 2023 draft. Plus there is that Michkov fellow. I want to see what some off-season work does for guys like KJ, Sillinger, and Chinakhov. I want to see them play next year. I also want to see Foudy assuming he is healthy.
I don’t mean all those guys play the entire year in the NHL, but I certainly don’t want to put them all in the AHL for the season while we field a scrappy NHL team that finishes 9th or 10th in the East with guys like Bemstrom, Gaunce, and some mediocre free agent signing. I don’t think that is the path to success.
The lines were besides the point, except for Tex-Jenner-Bjorkstrand, I want to see that.
I want that trio to get back to that dump and chase, expert forechecking game. I think Tex and Bjorky are much better working the corners than what we've seen of them on rush oriented lines. It's not that we don't get to see them go on the forecheck, it never completely went away, but it is disjointed now with some guys going on the forecheck and others not there to support. It really isn't the best Tex and Bjorky that we've seen this year.
You know what's one big difference between 2014-2016 NHL and AHL teams and this year's teams that no one is talking about? Coaching staffs.
Tortorella/Richards/Hartsburg/Larsen in NHL and Bednar/Pratt/Petersen in AHL
vs.
Larsen/Vincent/McCarthy in NHL and Eaves/Letestu/Vogelhuber in AHL
Maybe they think Larsen's staff is better at supporting our young players' development than the one they have in Cleveland right now?
Just trying to think of a new angle to this exhausted topic...
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Yeah I do think the coaching in Cleveland at the time was potentially a difference maker. I think this is Eaves' last year coaching, would be nice to have a bona fide development coach for the next wave of talent.
Maybe Letestu can be that, but I would like someone with some track record if possible.
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This has been an odd year in Cleveland. Losing guys to Columbus, and injuries here has decimated the team. They are an ECHL team right now. Since Greaves went down, the are using Cam Johnson and Linden Marshall in net. As far as Eaves goes, I have no idea what his role is. I see him at the games, but he hasn't been on the bench all year. When they interview the coach, it is either Letestu or Volgelhuber talking. I wouldn't be surprised if Eaves is gone after this year, but I have no idea what their plan is. To me it looks like they have been grooming the two assistants, but who know what the plan is.
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Thanks for the insight. I thought I read something earlier this year indicating that Eaves is retiring after the season, but I didn't know that he hasn't been present on the bench. It does seem like they're grooming Letestu and Vogelhuber.
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Haven't heard anything about him retiring. He did have a broken arm earlier in the year which may have kept him off the bench, but he's had his cast off for a while now and still hasn't returned.
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@majormajor I think Nyquist -- Jenner -- Laine was better than Nyquist -- Roslovic -- Laine. Patrik has improved in transition and Boone can make a lot of work in the front of the net, defense. Yes, Jack was good, but against Detroit and Montreal. We must wait his play against better teams if Boone won't return.
Yes. I'm just taking their word for it, I haven't looked at their contracts myself. Also after Vegas idk if we'll see too many LTIR plays like that.
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They are going to be hit with 13M of buy outs for the next 2 years.
Yes, but as we've learned, it's not really a hard cap if you're willing to dip into LTIR.
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To get 13M takes a loooot of work and to be able to get through a full season without having to trade players to make room.
Vegas was ”lucky” that one of their injured players carry a 9.5M cap hit, Minny don’t have those outside of Kaprizov.
Also Minny isn’t making the playoffs if they would try the same, they don’t have the depth for it.
Also NHL wants to fix that loophole, something could be done for the next year already
I'd kick the can on Fiala. Fiala is a serious upgrade on our wings and if we can move a younger wing for him (idk, Marchenko+?) then that works.
Dumba I'm not entirely sure what he is. He isn't really a great PP guy, an improved defender but not great at it.. I suppose I'd like to know the price but I probably won't like it. He's also nearing UFA so it only works if you can extend him as part of the deal.
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