Speculation: 2022 off-season discussion

[stevo61]

I won't lie. It would be funny if after Chicago not wanting to deal Dach in a Seth Jones trade. then trades him to the CBJ one year later. But a 1st for a player who has only 59 points in 3 season in the NHL? Thats a bit to give up. He is on the same PPG pace as Texier. I personally would multiple 2nds or a 2nd and a 3rd, but not a 1st

I understand the circumstances are different but the way things are going Dach is kind of comparable to Kotkaniemi who effectively went for a late 1st and 3rd. Still probably too much but 12 would be wayyy too much

 

[koteka]

6'4" 200 lb center?

I'll give a 1st rounder for that with his potential. He could use some work on faceoffs if he's truly a center though.

Boqvist, Bemstrom, Voronkov to Ottawa. Ottawa’s 7OA to Chicago. Dach to Columbus. Keep the 1st round picks. Ottawa could use an offensive right D who was a recent high draft pick, they are interested in Bemstrom (allegedly), and they like big guys like Voronkov.

 

[Youngguns1380]

Boqvist, Bemstrom, Voronkov to Ottawa. Ottawa’s 7OA to Chicago. Dach to Columbus. Keep the 1st round picks. Ottawa could use an offensive right D who was a recent high draft pick, they are interested in Bemstrom (allegedly), and they like big guys like Voronkov.

Give Chicago the 12th and keep the 7th

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

I hope we don’t trade for Dach unless if it’s part of a bigger deal that includes Debrincat

 

[Youngguns1380]

I hope we don’t trade for Dach unless if it’s part of a bigger deal that includes Debrincat

Now you are talking

 

[MissADD]

I hope we don’t trade for Dach unless if it’s part of a bigger deal that includes Debrincat

Apparently Chicago asked for at least 2OA from NJD for Debrinicat. Ain't no way Jackets are parting for that much for both of them

 

[CBJx614]

I won't lie. It would be funny if after Chicago not wanting to deal Dach in a Seth Jones trade. then trades him to the CBJ one year later. But a 1st for a player who has only 59 points in 3 season in the NHL? Thats a bit to give up. He is on the same PPG pace as Texier. I personally would multiple 2nds or a 2nd and a 3rd, but not a 1st

Not only a first... But their own first we acquired in the trade for Seth Jones.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Apparently Chicago asked for at least 2OA from NJD for Debrinicat. Ain't no way Jackets are parting for that much for both of them

I’d do 6+12 for both if Cat signs an extension. Those two guys would provide more long term value than whoever we’d be picking at 6 and 12

 

[thebus88]

The fundamental problem with this tidy little theory of yours is that Tortorella's desire to move on - and the news coming out regarding same, that he'd been talked into staying (and that most of us welcomed at the time given that he was and still is the winningest coach in Jackets history) - predate any news of the PLD trade request, let alone the subsequent acquisition of Laine. The timeline simply does not work. It's like claiming we could go ahead and trade Nash because we were confident Sonny Milano would take his place - not only is it extremely suspect on the surface for a variety of reasons, the two can't be connected in this fashion because they happened in the wrong order.

Ok, maybe the emphasis of my theory should focus more on (the departure of) Jones vs Laine instead of Torts vs Laine, but, the addition of Laine and his subsequent “rocky” short term relationship with Torts certainly didn’t help his future with the team.

And while I hate how much the MINIMAL information we get from the CBJ media is taken at face value, or morphed into whatever point somebody wants to make (because “media reports” are “FACTS”) can you give me an idea why you think Torts apparently wanted to “move on” from the CBJ, while only to return to the NHL 2/3 years later??

Regarding “timelines”, your being very naive to all the conversations that more than likely occurred behind the scenes regarding Dubois, probably WELL BEFORE there were any reports on the subject.

Who’s to say that conversations with Winnipeg regarding Laine/Dubois and Tort’s feelings on the matter we’re not discussed at a time in the past??

Didn’t happen because Portzline didn’t report it??

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

I won't lie. It would be funny if after Chicago not wanting to deal Dach in a Seth Jones trade. then trades him to the CBJ one year later. But a 1st for a player who has only 59 points in 3 season in the NHL? Thats a bit to give up. He is on the same PPG pace as Texier. I personally would multiple 2nds or a 2nd and a 3rd, but not a 1st

He's 21, missed some time with injuries and was a 3rd overall pick that has essentially still been playing a 3rd line role behind Strome and Toews in that lineup.

A big guy who is strong on the puck and is a playmaker is Jarmo's dream.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Also,

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Also,

I don’t get Hedge and Svoboda’s infatuation with Geekie

 

[Youngguns1380]

I don’t get Hedge and Svoboda’s infatuation with Geekie

They are stuck on he’s big not very insightful

 

[CBJx614]

I'd rather guy who has shown he can play in the NHL, just needs some better development rather than they guy who might not ever play an NHL game.

 

[Viqsi]

I'd rather guy who has shown he can play in the NHL, just needs some better development rather than they guy who might not ever play an NHL game.

Under some circumstances I'd agree. But we already have so many forwards as is that frankly I think now is the time to swing for the fences rather than play it safe. Dach at this point is well into the latter category.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Anyone catch Portzline's live chat? I thought it was going to be a chatroom thing but it was apparently an audio thing and the site doesn't seem to have an archive of it.

 

[VT]

Chinakhov (and maybe the 2th round) for Dach. We have enough wingers and I wouldn't be happy to trade Bjorkstrand.

 

[CBJx614]

Under some circumstances I'd agree. But we already have so many forwards as is that frankly I think now is the time to swing for the fences rather than play it safe. Dach at this point is well into the latter category.

I dunno I think under the right circumstances we could get him going. Playing in Chicago he had pressure to be THE GUY at a young age.

If he came into camp for the Jackets this off-season he would come into a locker room that would basically have a 3 way battle for the 1/2 C spots for the next 3-5+ years.

Jarmo loves creating competition between players to get the best out of them.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Anyone catch Portzline's live chat? I thought it was going to be a chatroom thing but it was apparently an audio thing and the site doesn't seem to have an archive of it.

I listened to a little. It was sort of like a bad radio show where people try to listen to themselves on the radio and communication with the host and callers is awkward.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Let the floodgates open

 

[MissADD]

Let the floodgates open

Alex DeBrincat to the Sens, Wonder what they gave up.

 

[stevo61]

Debrincat for a few picks. I see Chicago still sucks at trades. Will be hilarious if they lose the lottery next year

 

[Kevo22363]

Alex DeBrincat to the Sens, Wonder what they gave up.

7OA, Pick #39 this year and a 3rd rounder in 2024. Sens win this hands down. I think the new Chicago GM wants to tear this down to the studs.

 

[majormajor]

There are going to be much better talents available at #12 than both Geekie and Dach.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

Jesus christ that's cheap for one of the best scoring wingers in the world. Chicago are f***ed