Speculation: 2022 off-season discussion

[5th Line Fanatic]

Yes, the team with both starting goalies out, along with the best defenseman and 1 of the best forwards, would be a fair example for what that team was at the time.

Interestingly enough, have people’s opinions NOT changed on Torts with the news of Dubois wanting out of Winnipeg also??

My opinion of Torts has nothing to do with PLD. I loved the Torts hire and loved what he did here. But just like every organization that isn't winning the championship, a time will come when the players need to here from a different voice. We went all in on the Torts and Panarin group (I was all for it), it didn't work out. That was the end of that group. Move on and rebuild.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

More on Chychrun from the Ottawa Sun although I really don’t know what to make of this:

INSIDER TRADING: It's almost time to see if Canadiens will make a really big draft splash

"The belief is the Devils have spoken to Montreal about winger Josh Anderson and the sense is Canadiens GM Kent Hughes has been quite willing to listen."

ottawasun.com

This makes it seem like he vetoed the deal indirectly?

Edit: it actually sounds like he’s just going off of Hedger’s reporting.

 

[Jive Pawnbroker]

This makes it seem like he vetoed the deal indirectly?

It seems that way to me as well.

All the more reason to just stick to the rebuild as it's currently going - we have no business spending assets on someone who may not want to be here.

 

[majormajor]

This makes it seem like he vetoed the deal indirectly?

I can't tell if it's worth investigating what Garrioch meant, given that it is Bruce Garrioch, and he probably is talking out of his rear.

 

[thebus88]

This makes it seem like he vetoed the deal indirectly?

Fire Torts.





Sorry, some things shouldn’t be allowed to die...

 

[5th Line Fanatic]

He can't veto the deal directly or indirectly.

Here's what the article says-
"The Columbus Blue Jackets have made a serious pitch for Arizona Coyotes D Jakob Chychrun, but it’s doubtful he’ll be going there. Chychrun doesn’t have a “no move” clause and the Jackets have the assets to make the deal, but it doesn’t sound like it would be the right fit for the 24-year-old. He’s signed through the 2024-25 campaign with a cap hit of $4.5 million. Several teams have shown interest in Chychrun, however the Coyotes want a large return. The Coyotes would like a return similar to the one the Buffalo Sabres received from the Vegas Golden Knights in exchange for centre Jack Eichel"

Classic Ottawa Sun awful reporting.

 

[thebus88]

What about Zadorov??

“Perfect” for what is needed, if you ask me.

 

[Cowumbus]

What about Zadorov??

“Perfect” for what is needed, if you ask me.

For a bottom pair role he’s fine. If you get him to play in the first two pairs I’d pass.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

I can't tell if it's worth investigating what Garrioch meant, given that it is Bruce Garrioch, and he probably is talking out of his rear.

Garrioch is a full on CBJ hater and has been for years. I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

 

[punk_o_holic]

For a bottom pair role he’s fine. If you get him to play in the first two pairs I’d pass.

And if that's case I would pass since he's looking for 4 years, $4+ a season. Don't want to pay that much for a 3rd pairing defensemen.

 

[Halberdier]

The last 2 years have been easily the worst 2 years in recent memory. Last years team was still absolutely terrible.

Hilarious that Laine gets credit for making the team “better” this past year, while apparently having no impact on why they were so bad all of a sudden the year before to begin with.

Hilarious that Torts and Jones get the blame for the terrible year and not Laine. Not to mention, completely ignoring THE IMPACT LAINE HAD ON THE TERRIBLE YEAR AND THOSE GUYS LEAVING!!

Why did Torts become “disinterested” and “give up” on the CBJ??

Why did Jones all of a sudden not want to re-sign, after giving indications he would??

Obsessed with Laine huh? Yeah, also Laine had terrible season 20-21 (or half of a season, he did play only a bit north of 40 games for CBJ due to his injuries), but on that season the team seemed to be terrible without him, terrible with him.

Why did Torts became disinterested? Who knows. That happened before Laine trade, so not related to Laine. People leaving CBJ after a terrible season? Yeah, definitely on Laine, for sure, dear thebus88.

 

[Halberdier]

Sillinger is getting credit for performing at or above expectations for his scouting report and for a rookie. He showed some things that make him projectable as a very good center an in the NHL, even if he is not one yet. That people ( myself included) wouldn’t trade him for Seth Jones is not surprising.

Agreed. 28-year-old Jones with 8 years at 9.5M might be OK, but also might bite your butt in 4+ years. An ELC + RFA years of a promising 19-year-old Sillinger won't hurt the team that is in the middle of "re-tooling" or re-build. I like the kid.

 

[VT]

The last 2 years have been easily the worst 2 years in recent memory. Last years team was still absolutely terrible.

Hilarious that Laine gets credit for making the team “better” this past year, while apparently having no impact on why they were so bad all of a sudden the year before to begin with.

Hilarious that Torts and Jones get the blame for the terrible year and not Laine. Not to mention, completely ignoring THE IMPACT LAINE HAD ON THE TERRIBLE YEAR AND THOSE GUYS LEAVING!!

Why did Torts become “disinterested” and “give up” on the CBJ??

Why did Jones all of a sudden not want to re-sign, after giving indications he would??

The season before last was covid-19. Laine came in during the season, what was in the locker room we don't know. Porty can say anything.

Regarding Torts. You have probably forgotten that he wanted to leave after the 2019/20 season. And only talking with veterans kept him. So he wouldn't have stayed anyway.

Btw, it's interesting that Werenski changed agents (he was previously Brisson, as in Jones) and immediately signed a contract after Jones left. Why?

PLD... Torts hasn't coached Winnipeg, PLD's father in the organisation. Do you really think he wanted to leave CBJ for Torts? I doubt it. Similar like Panarin who has wanted to play in New York Rangers (and now NYR doesn't know how trade him ).

 

[JacketsDavid]

My opinion of Torts has nothing to do with PLD. I loved the Torts hire and loved what he did here. But just like every organization that isn't winning the championship, a time will come when the players need to here from a different voice. We went all in on the Torts and Panarin group (I was all for it), it didn't work out. That was the end of that group. Move on and rebuild.

I've always been a person who beleives you bring in certain coaches for certain teams.
Guys like Torts (and Hitch) were needed here. Just to bring structure and a voice.
In both their cases the team turned on them. In both cases (at least after) the team regressed for a bit.

My issue now is I wonder who is calling the shots?
Seems like it would be JD - and he may be too patient.
Maybe it's Jarmo - and Jarmo wants to win now and would be aggresive.
So we will see.

 

[Youngguns1380]

I am surprised it took this long for someone to express this directly. It was the first thing that occurred to me after reading it. Although, as I understand it, it was not "anywhere," but he did have some say in a trade destination. Still, the "oh god not Columbus" feel is certainly there.

The McDonaugh trade rumor involving Columbus was validated by Friedman just now on Sirius Morning Skate. He said Jarmo refuted Columbus had a plan involving McDonaugh coming/talking to him about Columbus after being claimed off waivers. He said he confirmed Rick Nash talked to him but McDonaugh felt Nashville was closer to win now than Columbus. He also said no State Tax in Tennesse. McDonaugh and Nash‘s families are close.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

The McDonaugh trade rumor involving Columbus was validated by Friedman just now on Sirius Morning Skate. He said Jarmo refuted Columbus had a plan involving McDonaugh coming/talking to him about Columbus after being claimed off waivers. He said he confirmed Rick Nash talked to him but McDonaugh felt Nashville was closer to win now than Columbus. He also said no State Tax in Tennesse. McDonaugh and Nash‘s families are close.

There is the connection we missed. Nash and McDonagh payed together in NY. I had forgotten that. Reasonable enough clarification but we'll see if Nashville is really closer to win now or not.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

If we aren't in on this at all I have to have some serious questions if true.

 

[Jovavic]

f*** Keith Tkchunk (and Adam Foote) and their crotch fruit, hard pass

 

[CBJx614]

If we aren't in on this at all I have to have some serious questions if true.

The cost to get him will be astronomical. I don't see us giving up the assets needed to get him when we are close to done with the retool.

 

[Halberdier]

Not true.

Care to elaborate how early season 20-21 CBJ *was* a playoff team?

Maybe on AHL level, not on NHL.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

The cost to get him will be astronomical. I don't see us giving up the assets needed to get him when we are close to done with the retool.

I don’t expect 100 point guys to be cheap. Big physical wingers with talent don’t grow on trees but he would certainly help make us less soft. I’d have to think Jarmo has at least picked up the phone.

 

[Youngguns1380]

I don’t expect 100 point guys to be cheap. Big physical wingers with talent don’t grow on trees but he would certainly help make us less soft. I’d have to think Jarmo has at least picked up the phone.

What if they want 6OA and 12OA + Bjorkstrand? Of course agreed upon extended Matty T and we get their 1st Rd

 

[CBJx614]

What if they want 6OA and 12OA + Bjorkstrand? Of course agreed upon extended Matty T and we get their 1st Rd

If that's all it took, maybe. But I think they'll want a blue chip prospect or two thrown in as well.

 

[LJ7]

What if they want 6OA and 12OA + Bjorkstrand? Of course agreed upon extended Matty T and we get their 1st Rd

I would not do that. Let's try and draft our own Tkachuk level player tonight. Not saying you're advocating for it because I know you aren't.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

If we aren't in on this at all I have to have some serious questions if true.

I’d be open to moving 6 for him if he comes with a contract. Exact type of player we need.