GDT: 2022 NHL Entry Draft - Round 1 - July 7th - 7 P.M / Round 2-7 - July 8th - 11 A.M

[Mr Bojanglez]

If Kuemper's eye is fine I'd like this

if we sign Kuemper I nominate @Zajacs Bowl Cut to go back to and modify his old name

 

[DerekDevils30]

I see people are using the Debrincat move as proof Fitz will do NOTHING the rest of the summer. Good f***ing lord some of you are miserable.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Just picks. We should have been all over this

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

lol so now we can't keep players past age 24. wow! hot take!

Who is saying that? I’m just responding to your totally unfounded assertion he isn’t even in his prime.

You’re someone that doesn’t understand the value of an ELC or managing the salary cap, why am I even responding?

 

[The Wumpus]

The Jones trade and the Debrincat trade are what a team going two directions at once looks like

 

[hidek91]

No. We’re just the kings of doing absolutely f***ing nothing. Outside of the occasional free agent signings, we sit on our hands.

Teams never give top3 picks away though and for a good reason. This could end up looking really ugly in a few years.

 

[Traitor Zach]

Only on HFBoards Fiala and Debrincat deals are considered "cheap". I'm a bit surprised about HFBoards' reaction to this deal.

In reality, those picks are super important as they are the only way to get impact players on very low contracts. Debrincat and Fiala have like 4-5 years of their primes left and will have very high contracts for remainder of their primes.

Yes - but there's no guarantee either of those players will develop. Even optimistically, they're probably 2 years out from being in NHL. Missing in drafts up high kills rebuilds into decade long projects.

 

[ChicksDigTheTrap]

Only on HFBoards Fiala and Debrincat deals are considered "cheap". I'm a bit surprised about HFBoards' reaction to this deal.

In reality, those picks are super important as they are the only way to get impact players on very low contracts. Debrincat and Fiala have like 4-5 years of their primes left and will have very high contracts for remainder of their primes.

This x1000. Posters here thought we would have to add Holtz to 2OA for DeBrincat. I have said before HF UNDERvalues high picks (top 6 or so) and overvalues picks after that.

 

[Oneiro]

I actually feel bad for DeBrincat. Rumors flying everywhere that you could be going to NJ, clearly a team on the rise.

And instead, you get traded... to f***ing Ottawa, the clownshoes stepchild franchise of eastern Canada.

Ottawa isn't a joke team, though.

Stutzle, Batherson, Chabot, Pinto, Tkachuk, Debrincat and Sanderson is a very solid group.

 

[Mgd31]

Ottawa should have a pretty nice top 6 for the foreseeable future.

 

[Normal Devil]

WHAT ARE YOU DOING TOM?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!

I'm going to guess that Fitz wanted a long term contract from DeBrincat and couldn't get it. He then decided he wasn't giving up #2 for a guy that might only be around a year.

 

[Alex NJD]

I actually feel bad for DeBrincat. Rumors flying everywhere that you could be going to NJ, clearly a team on the rise.

And instead, you get traded... to f***ing Ottawa, the clownshoes stepchild franchise of eastern Canada.

I don't think Ottawa is too far from us tbh.

Batherson, Stutzle, Tkachuk, Norris, Chabot, are a promising young group. Sanderson, Pinto, Greig, and some other solid prospects as well

 

[JrFischer54]

I actually feel bad for DeBrincat. Rumors flying everywhere that you could be going to NJ, clearly a team on the rise.

And instead, you get traded... to f***ing Ottawa, the clownshoes stepchild franchise of eastern Canada.

are we though? we have finished bottom 5 for what 5 years now?

 

[Unknown Caller]

There's no reason to believe we couldn't get him.

He’s 29 years old, it’s going to be the Tavares situation all over again. Guys like DeBrincat and Fiala are the right fit for this team. Not Gaudreau.

 

[NJDevs26]

I actually feel bad for DeBrincat. Rumors flying everywhere that you could be going to NJ, clearly a team on the rise.

And instead, you get traded... to f***ing Ottawa, the clownshoes stepchild franchise of eastern Canada.

It would be hilarious if he refused to sign and they had to Vanek him out of there next offseason

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

No, it’s just wishing we would make a move at some point to improve the team. I’m all for patience and the process, but has Fitz ever moved a single high pick or prospect for anything?

How often is this move the right move? I’m not certain it would’ve been in this case. This will be interesting to revisit in a year or two.

 

[Mr Bojanglez]

I'm ok that we kept our 2nd overall pick instead of trading for a guy who is RFA after one season.

 

[Unknown Caller]

How often is this move the right move? I’m not certain it would’ve been in this case. This will be interesting to revisit in a year or two.

Uh he’s a 24 year old 40 goal scorer with phenomenal underlying numbers. It’s the right move.

 

[JrFischer54]

Who is saying that? I’m just responding to your totally unfounded assertion he isn’t even in his prime.

You’re someone that doesn’t understand the value of an ELC or managing the salary cap, why am I even responding?

you said he probably past his peak. so why give out a long term high dollar contract for a player that past his peak at age 24?

 

[MadDevil]

Good lord some of you are insufferable.

 

[hidek91]

Yes - but there's no guarantee either of those players will develop. Even optimistically, they're probably 2 years out from being in NHL. Missing in drafts up high kills rebuilds into decade long projects.

If you don't hit your picks, you can't build a contender. You can't trade/UFA your way into contending if you're bad at drafting. You'll then perpetually rebuild rebuilds.

Also players picks in top 3 usually make impact much earlier than 2 years and even if it takes 2 years, 2 years will pass anyway and having a 20 year old very good/star/franchise player on ELC is great.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

He’s 29 years old, it’s going to be the Tavares situation all over again. Guys like DeBrincat and Fiala are the right fit for this team. Not Gaudreau.

Gaudreau is significantly better than both of these players and probably will be over the duration of his contract.

 

[DerekDevils30]

Good lord some of you are insufferable.

Just wait until we draft Cutter Gauthier tonight.

 

[NJDevs26]

Just picks. We should have been all over this

#2 is a different planet than #7 though...what would have been the equivalent, Holtz, our #2 and #3? I would have been fine with that. A lottery unprotected #1 next year along with the #2 and #3? Eh, you'd have to do that but I don't have enough confidence in our management it won't be another f***ing lottery pick.

Maybe DeBrincat really wasn't signing any extension and that brought his value down. In which case missing out on him wouldn't be so bad. If he does re-sign in Ottawa though, then it looks bad we weren't more involved.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

can we have a gif party for not making that Debrincat trade?