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NHL Entry Draft 2022 NHL Draft Thread - Part 2

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Man if we could find a way to get another 1st we could snag Yurov. I know it would be controversial but also Miroshnichenko if he goes to the 2nd round.

Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson

Miroshnichenko-Stutzle-Yurov

Formenton-Pinto-Greig

Unlikely but this could be an intriguing top 9.
 
BondraTime said:
13 goals and 36 points in 23 games in the MHL, which is extremely strong production.

KHL stats need to be taken with grains of salt.
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In that case we should get Bogdan Senotov. He is leading the MHL and his name was meant to be.

JK, I dont want him I was just surprised by his name.
 
Hale The Villain said:
That is definitely an exaggeration but I agree that the rankings aren't set in stone like last year where there was a consensus top 9.

I'm not liking what I'm seeing from a lot of the guys ranked in the top 10 compared to previous years.

Could change my mind by draft day but I think if there's a year to trade a top 10 pick it's this year.
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Interesting, I like the tools of the top end of this years draft a lot more and feel there are less question marks for a larger pool of prospects. I think Wright still goes 1st overall last year and most of the top 10 of this year slide in ahead of their comparative top 10 picks from last year (this doesn't mean I think this years 10 gets picked before all of last years 10). Hindsight and a year of development for the 2021's is obviously going to muddy this discussion a bit but at this same time last year the outlook for the top 10 seemed worse. There certainly wasn't so much a consensus for the top 4/5 and the top 9 (of 2021) all had at least minor concerns about aspects of their game (whether warranted or not).
 
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ReginKarlssonLehner said:
First time in a decade I see a reasonable top 10 by pronman.
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Geekie at 7 makes me want to barf but yes, its much more reasonable that his usual "look at me I'm different lists". Perhaps hes grown tired of his own shenanigans with his "scouting" lists which are usually brutal.
 
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Would be great to slide into a top 3 lottery pick this year. Probably finish in the 4-8th position. Fingers crossed it will be the last really high pick for a while!
 
ReginKarlssonLehner said:
Real sweet spot is the top 2 to ensure a chance of Wright and Slafkovsky. Badly want Slaf, but yea, that top 5 is super sweet.
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I know we've had this discussion before a little bit about the top 5, where I said I don't see too much of a separation between about 4 and 12, but I've thought of a different way to explain my perspective. As I said, I agree the top 3 of Cooley, Wright, Slafkovsky are a cut above (in my opinion all three are better prospects than anyone in the 2021 draft). And I would say I'd agree that Nemec and Jiricek are the next best prospects by a combination of safety and upside. But then it drops off to the small guys (Lekkerimaki, Kemell, Nazar, Savoie), and here is where things get complicated, because all four of those guys probably have a higher ceiling than Nemec or Jiricek, and if I were a betting man, I'd say a least one, maybe two of them, ends up better than either of the two D. I'm just not confident enough in my assessments this year (at least not yet) to predict who it will be.
 
Dan Patrick said:
Interesting, I like the tools of the top end of this years draft a lot more and feel there are less question marks for a larger pool of prospects. I think Wright still goes 1st overall last year and most of the top 10 of this year slide in ahead of their comparative top 10 picks from last year (this doesn't mean I think this years 10 gets picked before all of last years 10). Hindsight and a year of development for the 2021's is obviously going to muddy this discussion a bit but at this same time last year the outlook for the top 10 seemed worse. There certainly wasn't so much a consensus for the top 4/5 and the top 9 (of 2021) all had at least minor concerns about aspects of their game (whether warranted or not).
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I think there may be better depth in the 11-20 range compared to last year, but I'm underwhelmed by a lot of the names in the top 10 this year.

Definitely not as high on Jiricek, Kemell, Savoie and Geekie as some of the scouts out there, and unfortunately Miroshnichenko has health issues and Yurov is an unlikely selection for us given our history and the current situation in Russia.

If the draft were today I wouldn't mind moving down in the top 10 or even outside of the top 10 to get another 1st/2nd, but again it's extremely early and my opinion on this could change by the time of the draft.
 
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GermanSpitfire said:
Next years draft looks to be quite deep.

Two projected franchise talents at the top of the draft with many others who look oike they could contend for a top 5 spot. Definitely one of the best WHL classes in recent memory.

You want to keep your 1st rounder next year.
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Double your pleasure, double your fun, get two instead of one! :)
 
Joeyjoejoe said:
I agree with you, just Ottawas draft history in the past few years differs.

They did trade for a 5’9 dman though so maybe.
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Hopefully the GM has learned a lesson; however, he has been bad in acquiring vets and making trades.
 
Dan Patrick said:
Interesting, I like the tools of the top end of this years draft a lot more and feel there are less question marks for a larger pool of prospects. I think Wright still goes 1st overall last year and most of the top 10 of this year slide in ahead of their comparative top 10 picks from last year (this doesn't mean I think this years 10 gets picked before all of last years 10). Hindsight and a year of development for the 2021's is obviously going to muddy this discussion a bit but at this same time last year the outlook for the top 10 seemed worse. There certainly wasn't so much a consensus for the top 4/5 and the top 9 (of 2021) all had at least minor concerns about aspects of their game (whether warranted or not).
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Hale The Villain said:
I think there may be better depth in the 11-20 range compared to last year, but I'm underwhelmed by a lot of the names in the top 10 this year.

Definitely not as high on Jiricek, Kemell, Savoie and Geekie as some of the scouts out there, and unfortunately Miroshnichenko has health issues and Yurov is an unlikely selection for us given our history and the current situation in Russia.

If the draft were today I wouldn't mind moving down in the top 10 or even outside of the top 10 to get another 1st/2nd, but again it's extremely early and my opinion on this could change by the time of the draft.
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I think you guys both have basically the right idea. Some really good players in the top ten last year, but many came with minor or major concerns that prevented it from being an overall elite top ten. This year much of the concerns in the top ten or so are around size. I saw a top tier of about 9-11 players last year. This year it is about 12-15

I'd actually take the top three from 2022 (Slafkovsky, Cooley, Wright) ahead of anyone from 2021. After that I'd say Eklund, Power, Clarke, Beniers, Hughes, Johnson, Sillinger, Svechkov, McTavish are all pretty comparable to Nemec, Jiricek, Yurov, Savoie, Geekie, Nazar, Lekkerimaki, Kemell. I had Edvinsson, Coronato, Lysell, Guenther, Lucius at the bottom edge of my top tier, and that's about where I'd put Ohgren, Luneau, Korchinski, Lambert, Trikozov this year.
 
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SquidNasty said:
theathletic.com

The 2022 NHL Draft ranking: Juraj Slafkovsky rises in Pronman’s updated list

Juraj Slafkovsky's strong showing at the Olympics has moved him up the rankings as Corey Pronman orders the top NHL draft-eligible players.
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Pronman’s latest list:
1. Wright
2. Slafkovsky
3. Cooley
4. Jiricek
5. Nemec
6. Kemell
7. Geekie
8. Savoie
9. Yurov
10. Lekkerimaki

Unranked: Miroshnichenko
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Interesting
2. Juraj Slafkovsky, LW, TPS (Finland)

Skating: NHL average
Puck skills: NHL average
Hockey sense: NHL average
Compete: NHL average
Shot: Above NHL average

3. Logan Cooley, C, USA U-18 (NTDP)

Skating: Above NHL average
Puck skills: Above NHL average
Hockey sense: Above NHL average
Compete: Above NHL average
Shot: Above NHL average

The #2 rates NHL Average in every category and the #3 rates Above NHL Average in every category
I would have expecting one or two categories where he had Slafkovsky Above NHL Average to rank him higher. Its like player B is better than player A in every category we rank players in but player A is better. I get ranking Slafkovsky higher but it would be nice if he justified what put him over Cooley given that he has Cooley ranked higher in all his own categories.
 
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Sens of Anarchy said:
Interesting
2. Juraj Slafkovsky, LW, TPS (Finland)

Skating: NHL average
Puck skills: NHL average
Hockey sense: NHL average
Compete: NHL average
Shot: Above NHL average

3. Logan Cooley, C, USA U-18 (NTDP)

Skating: Above NHL average
Puck skills: Above NHL average
Hockey sense: Above NHL average
Compete: Above NHL average
Shot: Above NHL average

The #2 rates NHL Average in every category and the #3 rates Above NHL Average in every category
I would have expecting one or two categories where he had Slafkovsky Above NHL Average to rank him higher. Its like player B is better than player A in every category we rank players in but player A is better.
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Yeah that makes little sense, unless his size somehow makes him better despite having worse talent, as evaluated by them, at every aspect of the game.
 
One of Cooley or Slafkovsky and this team has potential to be nasty.

Personnal favorite is Slaf I think he’d be sick on Stutzle’s wing.
 
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