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NHL Entry Draft 2022 NHL Draft Thread - Part 2
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MatchesMalone
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That's a good question and I'm probably under-rating Howard. I just haven't seen much to get excited about with him. He's not the most dynamic player, haven't seen elite speed or stick-handling, he's at his best off the puck, finding scoring areas and finishing plays. With the puck on his stick he seems to play more of a perimeter game and will often just throw the puck on net hoping for tips or rebounds. Although he does use his teammates well, works give-and-goes, and has the skating agility, quickness and wherewithal to find and slip into dangerous scoring areas with good timing. That's all very translatable, but I just see him as more of a complementary scoring threat who will be deadly on the powerplay but won't be much of a line-driver at even strength.
Howard is also already a strong, stocky kid which gives him a leg-up at the junior level. Nazar isn't exactly a freak athlete. I've compared him to Kane and Raymond at times, but much closer to Kane than Raymond in that regard, where Raymond is remarkably powerful and has tree trunks for legs, while Kane has always been a skinnier dude but he just thinks the game on a different level. Tons of room for Nazar to improve on his strength and athleticism, but you can't teach the way he sees and thinks the game. The comparison to Raymond comes in that both are exceptional at creating turnovers due to tenacity and elite deceptiveness on the defensive side of the puck. Both have an uncanny knack for forcing turnovers that lead directly to scoring chances, and both have the speed and skill to capitalize.
This road wipe out has set the table perfectly; Sens are in 4th last, with the streaking Habs looking to pass them if the current trend continues.
The Sens need to ensure they don't play well enough to pass any of Buffalo, NJ and Philly, then at the very least don't drop in the draft lottery. The acquisition of a high impact top 6 (hopefully top 3) forward at the draft is priority 1. Given the free agent or successful trade route never works here, time to sub in the Belleville fringe over the next 27 games to take it down a notch.
The Sens need to ensure they don't play well enough to pass any of Buffalo, NJ and Philly, then at the very least don't drop in the draft lottery. The acquisition of a high impact top 6 (hopefully top 3) forward at the draft is priority 1. Given the free agent or successful trade route never works here, time to sub in the Belleville fringe over the next 27 games to take it down a notch.
NHL Dude 120
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Someone finally gets it. THANK YOU. Not to mention remember our 2nd would be pick #36. Which we can use on a RHD OR trade up as well.
Hopefully we don't go on another hot finish to the year that costs us dearly on draft day.
Late season runs ended up resulting in:
2009: Cowen instead of Kadri
2011: Zibanejad instead of Huberdeau
2016: Brown instead of Sergachev
2021: Boucher instead of Clarke (this one is speculation on my part)
Those were the guys we were rumored to be very interested in that went ahead of us. No guarantee the rumors were true and we would have taken them though.
It's also true that finishing lower can sometimes result in getting a better player. Had NJ not won the lottery in 2011 and pushed us to 6th, we would have apparently drafted Strome instead of Zibanejad. However that's more likely to be an exception to the rule.
Finishing the year in the bottom 4 and ending up with Slafkovsky, Wright, Cooley or Nemec would be huge for this team going forward. Just hope we don't lose games because the young players regress and instead it's because the useless players with no future on this team continue to suck.
Late season runs ended up resulting in:
2009: Cowen instead of Kadri
2011: Zibanejad instead of Huberdeau
2016: Brown instead of Sergachev
2021: Boucher instead of Clarke (this one is speculation on my part)
Those were the guys we were rumored to be very interested in that went ahead of us. No guarantee the rumors were true and we would have taken them though.
It's also true that finishing lower can sometimes result in getting a better player. Had NJ not won the lottery in 2011 and pushed us to 6th, we would have apparently drafted Strome instead of Zibanejad. However that's more likely to be an exception to the rule.
Finishing the year in the bottom 4 and ending up with Slafkovsky, Wright, Cooley or Nemec would be huge for this team going forward. Just hope we don't lose games because the young players regress and instead it's because the useless players with no future on this team continue to suck.
That's a risk of adding Sanderson to the lineup this spring. After a little transition, I could see him swinging a close game over to a win here or there.
MatchesMalone
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I go back and forth on Nemec. Yeah is already a pro and gonna be a good NHL defenseman for certain. But I remember having similar feelings about Adam Larsson leading up to his draft. I see an elite defensive and transition game from Nemec, but do I see an elite offensive defenseman? I'm not so sure. 2020, when the Sens had the two top 5s was when I got seriously into scouting, so lemme try a ranking of 2020-2023:
1. Bedard (2023)
2. Michkov (2023)
3. Wright (2022)
4. Lafreniere (2020)
5. Raymond (2020)
6. Slafkovsky (2022)
7. Carlsson (2023)
8. Stuetzle (2020)
9. Cooley (2022)
9. Fantilli (2023)
10. Eklund (2021)
11. Power (2021)
12. Byfield (2020)
13. Dvorsky (2023)
14. Holtz (2020)
15. Sanderson (2020)
That makes 5 2023s, 3 2022s, 2 2021s, and 6 2020s. Sounds about right. I thought 2021 was a bit weak at the top, 2020 was loaded, 2022 is about average and 2023 looks like a stunner.
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Tho I want a high end player, with Stitzle moving to center and Bath&Brady improving I'm not super worried over draft placement. We got our forward core, we just need a finishing touch.
Big Muddy
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I've been talking about this for the last 2 or 3 months. Even in the GDT, I've mentioned it and have seen posts disappear because apparently its taboo.
If we would add good players via UFA, then it wouldn't matter as much what happens in the draft. But, we typically don't do much in free agency, so you got do what you got to do.
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Big Muddy
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From a points percentage perspective, we are the 29th seed (5th from the bottom/last place).
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I think that 2020 draft class will end up being one of the best since 2003. No generational talent like McDavid/Crosby/Ovi, but a tonne of guys who will have long, productive NHL careers.
Super Cake
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I think we should no longer look at Russian prospects cause i have no doubt in my mind that Melnyk is now going to 100% ban the Sens from drafting Russians. Not that i agree with it, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Akrapovince
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Someone tell me whose draft profile/prospect info to watch for if we pick within the top 5.
Another blue chip prospect this year, another top ten-twenty selection next year, and we are well on our way to wrapping this rebuild up.
Use draft picks + prospects to round out the rest of the roster after. Biggest fear is after all this rebuilding management gets pressured to turn the corner before we’re ready by mortgaging our future.
Another blue chip prospect this year, another top ten-twenty selection next year, and we are well on our way to wrapping this rebuild up.
Use draft picks + prospects to round out the rest of the roster after. Biggest fear is after all this rebuilding management gets pressured to turn the corner before we’re ready by mortgaging our future.
Nemec. He’s NHL ready and we need that.
Chabot- Nemec
Sanderson - Zub
About the only way we can get a decent defence without spending to the moon (assuming we can keep Zub).
Chabot- Nemec
Sanderson - Zub
About the only way we can get a decent defence without spending to the moon (assuming we can keep Zub).
Akrapovince
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From what I’ve read, I barely watch, they’re pretty much neck and neck. Both will go in the top 8 but I could see them going in the top 5.
Depends on the writer but I feel like Nemec has the edge based on size and competition.
BondraTime
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Jiricek is bigger and plays in the better league compared to Nemec
They should have the highest odds to be the Sens pick the basing on likely picking in the 4-7 range
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I think we still need one more high end piece up front.
Missing out on Peterka and taking Roby, Kleven, etc. seems like a major opportunity wasted
NHL Dude 120
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My top five
Wright
Cooley
Kemell
Nemec
Slafkovsky
Jiricek is pretty even to Nemec but is out for the whole season.
Bit of a case of the scouting staff outsmarting itself again, but I don't have a problem with the Jarventie selection.
Gambled on a talented kid with lots of good tools. He's still very raw and hasn't put it together.
Very interested to see what kind of player he looks like in 2-3 years.
I don't know if I see high-end upside either, but he looks like a pretty safe bet to be a top 4 D.
13 points in 14 games since the WJC. Coming on strong late in the year.
Tankathon uses a list that I think is based on several ranking services so that could be useful to you. Bob McKenzie's list is highly thought of.
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