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NHL Entry Draft 2022 NHL Draft Thread - Part 2

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NHL Dude 120 said:
The gap between Slafkovsky and Kemell isn't worth that. And teams don't trade up with picks that high.
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I would. I would take Slafkovsky 1OA. I think this kid is the real deal and finishes our top 6 off for 5+ years
 
GCK said:
I would. I would take Slafkovsky 1OA. I think this kid is the real deal and finishes our top 6 off for 5+ years
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He won't make it past Seattle. In fact Slafkovsky fits their needs well.

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Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson

Still missing a RW or do you think we snag Michkov.

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GCK said:
I would. I would take Slafkovsky 1OA. I think this kid is the real deal and finishes our top 6 off for 5+ years
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I think I would also pick Slaf 1st. he's got some real Rantanen and even Jagr vibes to him.

Stutzle-Slaf would be our own version of Mackinnion-Rantanen. I like Wright too but I think a peak Slaf would be a better player than a peak Wright.
 
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NHL Dude 120 said:
He won't make it past Seattle. In fact Slafkovsky fits their needs well.

Slafkovsky-Stutzle-XXXX
Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson

Still missing a RW or do you think we snag Michkov.

Slafkovsky-Stutzle-Michkov
Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson
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I think there is room for Brown in that top 6
 
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Wallet Inspector said:
If we had 1OA I think Dorion would still take Wright, but I could definitely see him taking Slaf at #2,
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Trade down to Montreal since it’s their draft?

Ott: 2nd overall, Jeff Perry, Jake Allen
MontreL: 1st overall

Ottawa takes Saflasky, signs Forsberg to an extension and goes into the season with Forsberg / Allen combo.
 
Tuna99 said:
Trade down to Montreal since it’s their draft?

Ott: 2nd overall, Jeff Perry, Jake Allen
MontreL: 1st overall

Ottawa takes Saflasky, signs Forsberg to an extension and goes into the season with Forsberg / Allen combo.
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Agreed with trading down, but no thanks to that deal. We don't need either of their contracts.

Something like 2nd overall+MTL 2nd+a prospect works.
 
Wallet Inspector said:
Agreed with trading down, but no thanks to that deal. We don't need either of their contracts.

Something like 2nd overall+MTL 2nd+a prospect works.
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Doesn’t this look pretty decent going into next year?

Chabot - Petry
Sanderson - Zub
Holden - D.J. “Hard” Smith
 
Ignoring the situation in Ukraine and just ranking based on long-term projections. Decided to leave Miroshnichenko off now while I figure out what to do with him.

1. Shane Wright
2. Juraj Slafkovsky
3. Logan Cooley
4. Danila Yurov
5. Simon Nemec
6. David Jiricek
7. Frank Nazar
8. Matthew Savoie
9. Joakim Kemell
10. Kevin Korchinski
11. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
12. Conor Geekie
13. Cutter Gauthier
14. Gleb Trikozov
15. Brad Lambert
16. Seamus Casey
17. Liam Ohgren
18. Denton Mateychuk
19. Filip Mesar
20. Tristan Luneau
21. Marco Kasper
22. Pavel Mintyukov
23. Ty Nelson
24. Rutger McGroarty
25. Alex Peravelov
26. Isaac Howard
27. Luca Belluz
28. Ryan Chesley
29. Nathan Gaucher
30. Jimmy Snuggerud
31. Jack Hughes
32. Calle Odelius
 
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MatchesMalone said:
Ignoring the situation in Ukraine and just ranking based on long-term projections. Decided to leave Miroshnichenko off now while I figure out what to do with him.

1. Shane Wright
2. Juraj Slafkovsky
3. Logan Cooley
4. Danila Yurov
5. Simon Nemec
6. David Jiricek
7. Frank Nazar
8. Matthew Savoie
9. Joakim Kemell
10. Kevin Korchinski
11. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
12. Conor Geekie
13. Cutter Gauthier
14. Gleb Trikozov
15. Brad Lambert
16. Seamus Casey
17. Liam Ohgren
18. Denton Mateychuk
19. Filip Mesar
20. Tristan Luneau
21. Marco Kasper
22. Pavel Mintyukov
23. Ty Nelson
24. Rutger McGroarty
25. Alex Peravelov
26. Isaac Howard
27. Luca Belluz
28. Ryan Chesley
29. Nathan Gaucher
30. Jimmy Snuggerud
31. Jack Hughes
32. Calle Odelius
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Nice ranking, Nazar is a guy I would be thrilled to have the Sens take in that 5-8 range. The guy has a ton of skill. Do you think he'll stick at center?
 
Looks like a clear cut top 4 at this time: Slafkovsky, Wright, Cooley, Nemec

I think those 4 are in the same tier as most of the guys who went top 9 last year.

Not excited about the names available in the 5-10 range. Hoping there will be a couple risers who surprise me.
 
Sweatred said:
5.9 163 lbs doesn't sound like a top 2C on the Sens.
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Thats why I asked the question? A lot of being able to stick at center as a short guy is about play style, skating style, and strength. Hoping he can transition to wing and it doesn't detract from his style of play too much.
 
Dan Patrick said:
Nice ranking, Nazar is a guy I would be thrilled to have the Sens take in that 5-8 range. The guy has a ton of skill. Do you think he'll stick at center?
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Personally I see Nazar as a winger at the pro level. He probably could play center, but I think he'd be better on the right wing. He has elements of guys like Patrick Kane and Lucas Raymond.

Cooley I definitely see as a center long-term, and maybe Lekkerimaki too. Tough to say with Savoie.
 
DJB said:
It looks like a distinctive top 8 in this class then it falls off. Hopefully we land somewhere in that zone.
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Top 7 IMO

Wright
Slaf
Cooley
Savoie
Kemell
Jiricek
Nemec

Yurov is a massive x factor because of the Russian factor.
 
MatchesMalone said:
Ignoring the situation in Ukraine and just ranking based on long-term projections. Decided to leave Miroshnichenko off now while I figure out what to do with him.

1. Shane Wright
2. Juraj Slafkovsky
3. Logan Cooley
4. Danila Yurov
5. Simon Nemec
6. David Jiricek
7. Frank Nazar
8. Matthew Savoie
9. Joakim Kemell
10. Kevin Korchinski
11. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
12. Conor Geekie
13. Cutter Gauthier
14. Gleb Trikozov
15. Brad Lambert
16. Seamus Casey
17. Liam Ohgren
18. Denton Mateychuk
19. Filip Mesar
20. Tristan Luneau
21. Marco Kasper
22. Pavel Mintyukov
23. Ty Nelson
24. Rutger McGroarty
25. Alex Peravelov
26. Isaac Howard
27. Luca Belluz
28. Ryan Chesley
29. Nathan Gaucher
30. Jimmy Snuggerud
31. Jack Hughes
32. Calle Odelius
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I haven't yet pulled the trigger on my HockeyTV subscription and haven't binged USNTDP hockey yet, so this is a pure stat watching curiosity, but what makes Nazar a significantly better prospect than Howard?

Howard's production is almost identical to Nazar's this year and it was better last season. Both are the same size and will probably end up playing on the wing.
 
Hale The Villain said:
Looks like a clear cut top 4 at this time: Slafkovsky, Wright, Cooley, Nemec

I think those 4 are in the same tier as most of the guys who went top 9 last year.

Not excited about the names available in the 5-10 range. Hoping there will be a couple risers who surprise me.
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Interesting. I would probably take any of Wright, Cooley, Slafkovsky over anyone in the 2021 draft.

In terms of pure skill, the top 10-12 for 2022 would have to be considered substantially superior to that of 2021. Big difference is just the lack of size among the most skilled players in this draft.

Aside from the lack of size, the big weakness in this draft would be the lack of projectable NHL centers. I've been starting to dig into 2023 lately, and that draft is absolutely stacked with NHL centers (even playoff centers); led by Leo Carlsson, Adam Fantilli and Charlie Stramel, all of whom are 6'2+, and then Dalibor Dvorsky, Will Smith, Braden Yager, and Calum Ritchie are all at least 6'. If I'm looking for a true center, I'd probably take all seven of those guys ahead of any of the centers in this draft not named Cooley, and that includes Geekie. 2021 had McTavich, Beniers, Sillinger, Svechkov, probably Johnson, maybe Eklund.

But the real strength of the first round of this draft is the D. Skilled defensemen and centers with size are the hardest players to acquire. This years D crop looks easily better than 2020 or 2023, and although 2021 had that elite group in the top 10, this year's group looks a lot deeper. Some are under-sized, but many are perfectly projectable 6'1+ D men. Power, Hughes, Edvinsson, Clarke, Ceulemans, Lambos vs. Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski, Casey, Mateychuk, Nelson, Mintyukov, Luneau, Chesley, Lamoureux, Odelius. This draft could end up among those with the most D ever taken in the first round.
 
MatchesMalone said:
Interesting. I would probably take any of Wright, Cooley, Slafkovsky over anyone in the 2021 draft.

In terms of pure skill, the top 10-12 for 2022 would have to be considered substantially superior to that of 2021. Big difference is just the lack of size among the most skilled players in this draft.

Aside from the lack of size, the big weakness in this draft would be the lack of projectable NHL centers. I've been starting to dig into 2023 lately, and that draft is absolutely stacked with NHL centers (even playoff centers); led by Leo Carlsson, Adam Fantilli and Charlie Stramel, all of whom are 6'2+, and then Dalibor Dvorsky, Will Smith, Braden Yager, and Calum Ritchie are all at least 6'. If I'm looking for a true center, I'd probably take all seven of those guys ahead of any of the centers in this draft not named Cooley, and that includes Geekie. 2021 had McTavich, Beniers, Sillinger, Svechkov, probably Johnson, maybe Eklund.

But the real strength of the first round of this draft is the D. Skilled defensemen and centers with size are the hardest players to acquire. This years D crop looks easily better than 2020 or 2023, and although 2021 had that elite group in the top 10, this year's group looks a lot deeper. Some are under-sized, but many are perfectly projectable 6'1+ D men. Power, Hughes, Edvinsson, Clarke, Ceulemans, Lambos vs. Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski, Casey, Mateychuk, Nelson, Mintyukov, Luneau, Chesley, Lamoureux, Odelius. This draft could end up among those with the most D ever taken in the first round.
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At the time of the draft I'd probably rank them: Power, Slafkovsky, Wright, Hughes, Cooley, Nemec, then I'd have Clarke, Johnson, Edvinsson, McTavish, Beniers and Eklund ranked above everyone else in 2022.

In my opinion there's a clear top 4 right now and a significant drop-off after that. Mostly because I'm not as high on Jiricek, Savoie and Kemell as most, and Yurov will probably drop due to the Russian factor.

Still tons of time until the draft and this could easily change though.
 
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