Pre-Game Talk: 2022 NHL Draft Mega Thread: All Draft Talk Goes Here!

[QJL]

Shane Wright.

Simon Nemec will be the best player in the draft.

 

[WeThreeKings]

What i don’t like about Cooley is that everytime i saw him, it looks like he was trying too hard to show the scouts how he could dangle and play zegras and it left me facepalming. Moving foward, i don’t see him playing like zegras in the pro. That won’t be his game. His game will speed and hard work. Don’t try to over dangle just to proove to the scouts.

He really added a lot of that to his game late in the season which I'm fine with. Try whatever now and see what you can do and what you can't. That's how you develop and learn.

I think if you watch the gold medal game, you will see Cooley dial it back a lot, except when Snuggerud and Gauthier stand around doing nothing in the neutral zone, forcing him to attack alone.

One thing I think you'd like, again if you watch the gold medal game over again. He's around it. He's sticking people. He's involved physical. He's a nasty little bugger. I'd say he's the most physically implicated of the 3 despite being the smallest.

 

[Balthazar]

So do we know if someone from the Habs organization fed Renaud Lavoie those informations about the Habs 100% not drafting Wright?

 

[Hannibal]

He really added a lot of that to his game late in the season which I'm fine with. Try whatever now and see what you can do and what you can't. That's how you develop and learn.

I think if you watch the gold medal game, you will see Cooley dial it back a lot, except when Snuggerud and Gauthier stand around doing nothing in the neutral zone, forcing him to attack alone.

One thing I think you'd like, again if you watch the gold medal game over again. He's around it. He's sticking people. He's involved physical. He's a nasty little bugger. I'd say he's the most physically implicated of the 3 despite being the smallest.

Yea i know that he’s far from being Wright’s soft, that’s for sure.

 

[morhilane]

What i don’t like about Cooley is that everytime i saw him, it looks like he was trying too hard to show the scouts how he could dangle and play zegras and it left me facepalming. Moving foward, i don’t see him playing like zegras in the pro. That won’t be his game. His game will speed and hard work. Don’t try to over dangle just to proove to the scouts.

You aren't the only one who think that. That's the impression I was left with too.

 

[Playmaker09]

Anyone have a confident read on Julian Lutz?

Seems like a very interesting skillset and has been climbing in the rankings of late (some have him in the 30s now and a couple even in the 20s). Maybe at 33 or trade up from 62?

 

[WeThreeKings]

So do we know if someone from the Habs organization fed Renaud Lavoie those informations about the Habs 100% not drafting Wright?

It's bunk.

Anyone have a confident read on Julian Lutz?

Seems like a very interesting skillset and has been climbing in the rankings of late (some have him in the 30s now and a couple even in the 20s). Maybe at 33 or trade up from 62?

Can never be confident but he was highly thought of and had some injury troubles. He's got a really good shot and has some offensive acumen outside of that. He's a good gamble because his shot is legitimate tool and there isn't a weakness that has to be overcome (like size or terrible skating) it's about development and rounding out the skillet

 

[Richiebottles]

And he's known to have one of (if not the) best shots in the draft. Give me IQ + shot combo any day as they seem to be the most difficult skills to improve upon after being drafted.

Exactly, if the knock is lack of compete, that can be worked on with proper coaching and development.

Another one is skating, I think that skating can be improved and worked on as well.

 

[Takeru]

I thought there was a moratorium on draft threads with the all encompassing draft GDT

Kidding aside, nice one.
As others said though, I'd rather see us gamble on higher upside with our early 2nd on guys like Hutson/Rinzel/Trikozov.

Based on what I've read they've got far more interesting tool sets to develop into impact players than a Warren type (questionnable IQ and mobility, with only size going for him).

 

[Michelangelo]

So do we know if someone from the Habs organization fed Renaud Lavoie those informations about the Habs 100% not drafting Wright?

Kind of weird that nearly 24h later, there is no mention of that information/opinion at all nor any tweet from Renaud on his twitter page.

You'd expect that if the claim was actually backed by legit sources, he would try to get it out there more

https://twitter.com/renlavoietva

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[FrankMTL]

That's the same one they used for Marc Bergevin's tanning bed.

 

[atrud66]

Polishing his list of I told you so if we drafted Slafkovsky

I don't understand the obsession with being right about who gets picked first. Shouldn't he be more invested in Slafkovsky being the better player in the long run?

 

[McGees]

Engels talking live...about draft stuff soon I believe:



The Jets guys are suggesting maybe the 1st for Dubois...lol nope.

Eric saying Absolutely NOBODY knows who they're picking yet - and if they say so, they are lying.

 

[Takeru]

Interesting excerpt from a piece written by Martin Leclerc for RadCan:

“Les équipes approchées par Kent Hughes se sont fait offrir les 26e et 33e sélections (la 33e sélection étant la première du second tour) en échange de leur position au milieu du premier tour.”

He says the teams Hughes has approached, have been offered the Habs’ 26th and 33rd picks for those teams’ picks that are in the middle of the first round.

Les recruteurs de Montréal ne sont pas des caves. Comme tout le monde, ils voient bien qu’il y a une sorte de cassure dans ce repêchage (une baisse de talent) autour de la 19e position.

Leclerc claims that Habs scouts are aware like everyone else, that there is some kind of talent drop off around the 19th pick. I don’t know where Leclerc is getting this, he’s not saying.

Par contre, le premier choix du second tour, ça vaut de l’or. Le lendemain du premier tour, les DG qui détiennent les premiers choix du deuxième tour reçoivent des tas d’appels. Tout le monde les veut! Alors l’offre du Canadien est certainement alléchante pour bien des équipes, affirme un recruteur d’un club de l’Ouest.

What’s interesting is the strategic advantage of owning the 33rd pick. As per Leclerc, that 1st pick of the 2nd round is worth gold. The thinking is that on the day following the completion of the first round, those teams that own early picks in the 2nd round, receive a ton of calls. Every team wants them. As per a western scout consulted by Leclerc, the fact of Hughes dangling that 33rd pick is making his pitch enticing.

I’m guessing there’s a whole lot of rumination going on by those teams who will have not been able to get their guy in the first round or who have been owned by counterparts. That 33rd pick becomes a shot at immediate redemption.

Pinocchio Hughes et « l’indécision » du Canadien

La direction montréalaise sait depuis un bon moment quel joueur elle repêchera jeudi, affirme Martin Leclerc.

ici.radio-canada.ca

Really hesitant at the idea of trading our 26&33 picks.

On the one hand, I'm a believer in quality over quantity any day. And selecting earlier gives you guarantee to get "your guy".

On the other hand, I feel with the high variance and uncertainty from this draft, there might not be such a talent drop off mid 1st round. The potential opportunity to nab two high upside fallers is pretty enticing to me.

It all depends on who's there and which pick we could obtain, but unless we could somehow get close to top 10 and there are still big names available, I feel we're better off staying put.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

So do we know if someone from the Habs organization fed Renaud Lavoie those informations about the Habs 100% not drafting Wright?

If you had to choose a reporter to give inside info to, would you ever pick Lavoie?

No one would.

 

[Michelangelo]

1. Montreal: Shane Wright, C, Kingston Frontenacs (OHL): The decision won’t be final until Kent Hughes leaves the table with a jersey in his hand. And that jersey, like many others in the stands, will have “Wright,” on the back. Flawless character wins out in the internal debate.

26. Montreal: Denton Mateychuk, D, Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL): Character-plus. There has been some debate in the scouting world as to whether or not his high-end offence will translate at the next level.

Sportsnet's 2022 NHL Mock Draft: Predicting how Round 1 will unfold

Which player will go No. 1 overall? Where will the first curve ball happen that shakes up the draft order? Sam Cosentino presents his 2022 NHL mock draft, where he predicts how Round 1 will unfold.

www.sportsnet.ca

Sam Cosentino's final mock draft at Sportsnet has us coming out of Round 1 with Wright and Mateychuk

 

[WeThreeKings]

Engels just said if anyone tells you they know who the Habs are picking. They are lying.

 

[Whitesnake]

Marco says that it's a gut feeling not his personal preference. Clearly, I'd go Hutson too. If Ostlund goes that far....

 

[Takeru]

The main reason I can't wait for the draft is because we will finally get a significant idea of what the "plan" our new management team is going to be implementing in order to improve the team and put this disastrous past year behind us....

1. How willing will they be to trade Petry, Anderson or any other player and will it be for more draft picks or existing prospects ready to contribute at Laval.
2. We'll get real insight into what specific "style of play" the team will be trying to play by the kind of players we draft. (size/speed/sense)
3. How aggressive are we going to be in trading up with our 14 picks.

Those multiple 3rd and 4th rounders should be very useful to move up in the mid 2nd and 3rd to target good fallers before the end of these rounds.

Not worrying too much about trading roster players at the draft, if it happens there so be it but it's a long summer and can be done anywhere between here and Oct.

But yeah, those first draft moves and selections, along with the ensuing development, will be key insight into the way they're aiming to build this team.

 

[FrankMTL]

1. Montreal: Shane Wright, C, Kingston Frontenacs (OHL): The decision won’t be final until Kent Hughes leaves the table with a jersey in his hand. And that jersey, like many others in the stands, will have “Wright,” on the back. Flawless character wins out in the internal debate.

26. Montreal: Denton Mateychuk, D, Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL): Character-plus. There has been some debate in the scouting world as to whether or not his high-end offence will translate at the next level.

Sportsnet's 2022 NHL Mock Draft: Predicting how Round 1 will unfold

Which player will go No. 1 overall? Where will the first curve ball happen that shakes up the draft order? Sam Cosentino presents his 2022 NHL mock draft, where he predicts how Round 1 will unfold.

www.sportsnet.ca

Sam Cosentino's final mock draft at Sportsnet has us coming out of Round 1 with Wright and Mateychuk

As my 5 year old says, "That would be EPIC!"

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Interesting excerpt from a piece written by Martin Leclerc for RadCan:

“Les équipes approchées par Kent Hughes se sont fait offrir les 26e et 33e sélections (la 33e sélection étant la première du second tour) en échange de leur position au milieu du premier tour.”

He says the teams Hughes has approached, have been offered the Habs’ 26th and 33rd picks for those teams’ picks that are in the middle of the first round.

Les recruteurs de Montréal ne sont pas des caves. Comme tout le monde, ils voient bien qu’il y a une sorte de cassure dans ce repêchage (une baisse de talent) autour de la 19e position.

Leclerc claims that Habs scouts are aware like everyone else, that there is some kind of talent drop off around the 19th pick. I don’t know where Leclerc is getting this, he’s not saying.

Par contre, le premier choix du second tour, ça vaut de l’or. Le lendemain du premier tour, les DG qui détiennent les premiers choix du deuxième tour reçoivent des tas d’appels. Tout le monde les veut! Alors l’offre du Canadien est certainement alléchante pour bien des équipes, affirme un recruteur d’un club de l’Ouest.

What’s interesting is the strategic advantage of owning the 33rd pick. As per Leclerc, that 1st pick of the 2nd round is worth gold. The thinking is that on the day following the completion of the first round, those teams that own early picks in the 2nd round, receive a ton of calls. Every team wants them. As per a western scout consulted by Leclerc, the fact of Hughes dangling that 33rd pick is making his pitch enticing.

I’m guessing there’s a whole lot of rumination going on by those teams who will have not been able to get their guy in the first round or who have been owned by counterparts. That 33rd pick becomes a shot at immediate redemption.

Pinocchio Hughes et « l’indécision » du Canadien

La direction montréalaise sait depuis un bon moment quel joueur elle repêchera jeudi, affirme Martin Leclerc.

ici.radio-canada.ca

Reminds me of two years ago when everyone said there was a talent drop after the top 12, and I was adamant that Lundell, Jarvis and Mercer were apart of that tier.

For me this year, there’s a drop off around 15 depending on your views of the Russian factor this year. But honestly there isn’t a ton of separation between 5 and 15 for me so mid first might be worth it. Then the next tier is about 10 names long as well for me, so decent chance we get one of those players at 26.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Engels just said based on what he heard he doesn't think Cooley is really in the discussion. But doesn't specify if that's the Habs or just from other people.

Sam Cosentino says they are meeting Slafkovsky again soon but they've met Wright 6 times.

Sam Cosentino says they are meeting Slafkovsky again soon but they've met Wright 6 times.

 

[Justin11]

Engels just said if anyone tells you they know who the Habs are picking. They are lying.

At least he's not pretending to know, unlike Mathias Brunet earlier today "Habs are not selecting Wright". It might end up being the case, but don't come out like you have some privileged information when you don't.
No one really knows who will be the pick and they are keeping it tight until the moment they will step up to the podium and make the announcement.

 

[dinodebino]

That's the same one they used for Marc Bergevin's tanning bed.

Best post of the day. You won the internets today sir.

Engels talking live...about draft stuff soon I believe:



The Jets guys are suggesting maybe the 1st for Dubois...lol nope.

Eric saying Absolutely NOBODY knows who they're picking yet - and if they say so, they are lying.

I believe him. He's a mouthpiece. So if the mouthpiece doesn't have the answer, then it means that no one does.