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Rhodes 81

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Question for NY/NJ based hockey/baseball fans. I've always assumed that generally someone that cheers for the Rangers would be more likely to be a fan of the Yankees, and someone that cheers for the Islanders is more likely to cheer for the Mets. Is that generally true are rooting interests more sporadic across sports?

I've always been fascinated by how fans choose teams to root for, particularly when there are 2-3 teams in a small area. Being from a city where rooting interests are on a regional level outside of college sports, many of these decisions are made for you.
 

Camille the Eel

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after looking at the MLB standings for the first time in months I was shocked: how can the Yankees, with their record, actually be in a race with Houston for home field in the fall. With their record only two games up?

And the Dodgers have a still better record in the west.

Insane.
 

Clam Jensen

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after looking at the MLB standings for the first time in months I was shocked: how can the Yankees, with their record, actually be in a race with Houston for home field in the fall. With their record only two games up?

And the Dodgers have a still better record in the west.

Insane.
Yanks are playing .500 in their last 20, have dropped 3 in a row to Houston, and Houston keeps feasting on their horrible division.
 
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Question for NY/NJ based hockey/baseball fans. I've always assumed that generally someone that cheers for the Rangers would be more likely to be a fan of the Yankees, and someone that cheers for the Islanders is more likely to cheer for the Mets. Is that generally true are rooting interests more sporadic across sports?

I've always been fascinated by how fans choose teams to root for, particularly when there are 2-3 teams in a small area. Being from a city where rooting interests are on a regional level outside of college sports, many of these decisions are made for you.
I think it's fair to say Islanders fans cheer for the Mets and vice versa and I would say that's because they're both located out east of the city. The city particularly meaning Manhattan. Technically Queens is on Long Island, even though it's still a bit of a drive from where the Islanders are or at least where they were for over 40 years in Uniondale. I think the new building is a little closer to where the Mets play in Flushing, Queens.

The Yankees and Rangers are both more centrally located (Yankee Stadium is like walking distance to being in part of Manhattan), but both teams have been around for a really long time, where the Mets have only been around since 62 and the Islanders 72.

I find most Mets fans are also Jets fans and Yankees fans are Giants fans. This is because the Jets played out in Shea Stadium for years and years up until the early 80's when they moved to Jersey into Giants Stadium several years after it had opened. The Giants played in Yankee Stadium for years (and the Polo Grounds even before that) before moving to Jersey.

I always cheered for the Mets. My family likes the Yankees. I picked the Mets because I had to be different. I always had to deviate from the norm. That's probably why I chose the Devils over the Rangers/Islanders, even though I am from Jersey. My childhood did just so happen to coincide with maybe one of the longest runs of futility the Yankees had and the Mets did win the world series when I was 10.

But for some reason, when I watched football (and I don't anymore, at all, ever. Lost interest in my early teens) I did cheer for the Giants.

I didn't hate the Yankees, I didn't hate the Jets either. I always thought it was okay to be a fan of the Yankees and Mets and the Giants and Jets, because they weren't in the same division. They weren't really rivals on the field. The Giants and Jets only played each other in the regular season once every 3-4 years or whatever it was and the Mets and Yankees never played each other when I was growing up, other than in spring training. In my experiences, you were usually frowned upon if you liked both teams and were expected to pick one, but I never saw it like rooting for both the Rangers and Devils or like rooting for both the Mets and Phillies or Giants and Eagles, because they weren't really rivals.
 
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Emperoreddy

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Cashman has to have an aggressive trade deadline to strengthen this team into a WS favorite. Team is great but it has holes and the league has lots of great teams this year.

If this isn't the season to sell all these farm hands for a ring, then what season would be?
 
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Emperoreddy

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Well that's certainly one way of responding to being swept and shut down by the in-state rivals, George woulda canned someone by now

Honestly it felt like Boone didn't care much about these games after that Gallo PH, and just wanted to send a message to Cashman.

Team's in a lurch waiting to see what the final team is going to look like right now
 
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Davegarri

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Mets desperately need bullpen help and a solid bat or two. the 3B and C spots are black holes most of the time

Though both Escobar and Nido showed up the past few games. Still could use an upgrade.
 

MachoDiablo

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Question for NY/NJ based hockey/baseball fans. I've always assumed that generally someone that cheers for the Rangers would be more likely to be a fan of the Yankees, and someone that cheers for the Islanders is more likely to cheer for the Mets. Is that generally true are rooting interests more sporadic across sports?

I've always been fascinated by how fans choose teams to root for, particularly when there are 2-3 teams in a small area. Being from a city where rooting interests are on a regional level outside of college sports, many of these decisions are made for you.
It's true that historically it's been Yankees/Giants/Knicks/Rangers for a bunch of people, and Mets/Jets/Nets/Islanders for others circa the 60s-80s, but as others have said here times have changed.

Speaking as a lifelong north Jerseyan I think around me baseball interests revolve around whichever team is doing better at the time, and there's no denying the Yankees have had protracted success since the 90s. I'm a Mets fan, though; my family, both sides, have been National League fans since arriving in this area in the early 1900s, so that's what I was basically born into it.

Football's weird, though, ever since the Giants and Jets both wound up in East Rutherford and, importantly, all differences between the NFC and AFC got ironed away. At this stage, what does it matter which team you pull for? They play and train in the same general area, there's no real distinguishing identity differences between them, etc. I mostly cheer the Giants, but I'm perfectly happy cheering the Jets, too, but I'm mostly a casual football fan.

Hockey is what we all figure it is: being in or east of the city makes you more likely to be an Isles fan, the Rangers have their presence in Jersey, but the Devils obviously have their strongholds. I'm one of the many millenials who was around ages 8-12 during the '94 Eastern Conference finals and thus had a choice which team I'd rally behind, but end of the day I had a combo feeling of "hey, I'm FROM New Jersey, why wouldn't I cheer the Devils?" and "Hey, the Devils are winning the Cup, that's awesome!" to rope me in.

As for basketball...Jesus, why even broach that agony? The Nets bolted for Brooklyn and just consistently disappoint, and the Knicks are one of the worst organizations in all of pro sports. I'm personally waiting for Shaq to succeed in bringing another team to Newark before I get back into really caring too much about the NBA.
 
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Ripshot 43

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Don’t really understand the Ben10 trade. Doesn’t top end pitching win championships and not more bats? Didn’t the Yankees clearly need bullpen help? Not they are done adding but the prospects they already gave up to add to the lineup for another bat… just odd.
 

Clam Jensen

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Don’t really understand the Ben10 trade. Doesn’t top end pitching win championships and not more bats? Didn’t the Yankees clearly need bullpen help? Not they are done adding but the prospects they already gave up to add to the lineup for another bat… just odd.
It’s a great move because it renders Joey Gallo irrelevant, they gave up nothing of value for him, and I guarantee they’ll focus on pitching now.
 
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Emperoreddy

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Don’t really understand the Ben10 trade. Doesn’t top end pitching win championships and not more bats? Didn’t the Yankees clearly need bullpen help? Not they are done adding but the prospects they already gave up to add to the lineup for another bat… just odd.

Pitching trades are coming. They desperately needed a LF upgrade. They gave up nothing of value
 

Ripshot 43

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Oh I swear I saw it was one of their top 3 prospects and then some. That’s where my confusion was.

Edit: it’s not quoting Eddy and Clem but thank you guys for responding.
 

Clam Jensen

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Oh I swear I saw it was one of their top 3 prospects and then some. That’s where my confusion was.

Edit: it’s not quoting Eddy and Clem but thank you guys for responding.
Ja mon! Hoping they reserve the blue chippers for Soto (pipe dream) or Castillo. It’s tough, because I think Peraza is more MLB-ready due to his glove, but he can hit like a motherf***er too. I’d be gutted if they gave up Volpe or Dominguez though, because Jasson is so young still and heating up, and Volpe is their future shortstop.
 

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