Olympics: 2022 Beijing Olympics

[Havre]

Yeah. Typical Norway when it comes to ski jumping.

Even if I can't really complain since we won a gold the other day. With our best female ski jumper out for the season getting one gold total in ski jumping was probably better than what one could expect. Normally I would have said a medal in the team event and one medal in the other would be as "expected", but I would rather have one gold than two bronze medals. Also Norway are often crap in the smaller hills for some reason - so the "normal" even was always going to be a bit challening.

 

[Ben Grimm]

IOC will not hold ceremonies if Kamila Valieva wins medal

I know what blood doping is, so I'm not accusing her of using PEDS. The thing I don't understand is if the IOC ruled that she didn't cheat, then why did they cancel the medal ceremony?

 

[JTBF81]

IOC will not hold ceremonies if Kamila Valieva wins medal

I know what blood doping is, so I'm not accusing her of using PEDS. The thing I don't understand is if the IOC ruled that she didn't cheat, then why did they cancel the medal ceremony?

The IOC didn't clear her, the special panel of the international Court of sport arbitration decided she didn't need to be provisionally suspended before a full investigation is held. After the games a full investigation will be conducted by several agencies, and if Russia is found to have been culpable yet again, the IOC will then likely strip her and Russia of any medals won in the team and by her in the individual. In any case, the medal ceremony would then be held once the full investigation was concluded.

 

[Ben Grimm]

The IOC didn't clear her, the special panel of the international Court of sport arbitration decided she didn't need to be provisionally suspended before a full investigation is held. After the games a full investigation will be conducted by several agencies, and if Russia is found to have been culpable yet again, the IOC will then likely strip her and Russia of any medals won in the team and by her in the individual. In any case, the medal ceremony would then be held once the full investigation was concluded.

Thanks for posting. Blood doping started in the late 60s when I was a kid and it's crazy we're still dealing with it.

 

[BMC]

The IOC didn't clear her, the special panel of the international Court of sport arbitration decided she didn't need to be provisionally suspended before a full investigation is held. After the games a full investigation will be conducted by several agencies, and if Russia is found to have been culpable yet again, the IOC will then likely strip her and Russia of any medals won in the team and by her in the individual. In any case, the medal ceremony would then be held once the full investigation was concluded.

And the other skaters might boycott the medal ceremony if she wins/medals, which would be very embarassing not only for the IOC but the Beijing committee as well. Scrapping the medal ceremony until the investigation is concluded is a face saving move IMO.

Personally, I don't think she should be allowed to compete but it is what it is. I sympathize with the fact that she is just 15 years old and may not have been aware of what she was taking (which is a damn sight more than you can say for her coaches & other adults around her. And where the hell are her parents???) but this decision is damaging to the sport, no question about it.

 

[JTBF81]

And the other skaters might boycott the medal ceremony if she wins/medals, which would be very embarassing not only for the IOC but the Beijing committee as well. Scrapping the medal ceremony until the investigation is concluded is a face saving move IMO.

Personally, I don't think she should be allowed to compete but it is what it is. I sympathize with the fact that she is just 15 years old and may not have been aware of what she was taking (which is a damn sight more than you can say for her coaches & other adults around her. And where the hell are her parents???) but this decision is damaging to the sport, no question about it.

I tend to agree. There is also precedent here as other athletes who have tested positive for the same substance were subsequently banned for, I believe, 8 or 9 months(a bobsledder I think for one)..She may have legitimately not known what she was taking, and she may have tested clean in Beijing, but it doesn't change the fact that she was given an illegal substance at a high level event by coaches/staff that certainly did know. Just because she's a great skater/the favorite and underage shouldn't mean she gets a free pass to cheat, and hopefully the full investigation will be done fairly and with all the evidence. I won't hold my breath on that though.

 

[BMC]

I tend to agree. There is also precedent here as other athletes who have tested positive for the same substance were subsequently banned for, I believe, 8 or 9 months(a bobsledder I think for one)..She may have legitimately not known what she was taking, and she may have tested clean in Beijing, but it doesn't change the fact that she was given an illegal substance at a high level event by coaches/staff that certainly did know. Just because she's a great skater/the favorite and underage shouldn't mean she gets a free pass to cheat, and hopefully the full investigation will be done fairly and with all the evidence. I won't hold my breath on that though.

Neither will I.

 

[GKJ]

There is an awful lot of ski jumping in the Olympics

 

[Havre]

I’m not updated much on her case, but if someone have given a 15 year old illegal substances in any form knowingly that would be a new low.

Also quite astonishing that they haven’t got better procedures in place how to deal with these kind of cases. I know it isn’t easy, but we have had so many different kind of PED and substance related issues over the last 30-40 years on might have thought we would have learned more about how to deal with them.

 

[Kshahdoo]

I tend to agree. There is also precedent here as other athletes who have tested positive for the same substance were subsequently banned for, I believe, 8 or 9 months(a bobsledder I think for one)..She may have legitimately not known what she was taking, and she may have tested clean in Beijing, but it doesn't change the fact that she was given an illegal substance at a high level event by coaches/staff that certainly did know. Just because she's a great skater/the favorite and underage shouldn't mean she gets a free pass to cheat, and hopefully the full investigation will be done fairly and with all the evidence. I won't hold my breath on that though.

There were cases, when sportsmen got cleared as well.

The thing that actually made me indignant, was the time this shit was announced. I mean the probe was made in the middle of December, and they announced it was positive right after the team competition was over 7 weeks later. They could explain whatever they wish, but I'm pretty sure it was made intentionally. Yeah, it's impossible to prove, but such coincidence couldn't just happen accidentally.

 

[Havre]

I hate relays this year

Got to be the worst Olympics for 30-40 years in terms of relays for Norway. Complete rubbish.

 

[AB13]

I hate relays this year

Got to be the worst Olympics for 30-40 years in terms of relays for Norway. Complete rubbish.

No, I actually hate relays. You don’t. You love relays.

 

[Havre]

No, I actually hate relays. You don’t. You love relays.

I didn’t expect that

Please not a Tandrevold now. That I couldn’t take.

Feel sorry for the Russian. Such a crazy team effort until that last shooting.

 

[Havre]

So so impressive the last stage. He has historically been the weak link in the Norwegian team. He couldn’t keep up with France and Germany during the cross country, but he allowed to lose some seconds between the shootings. And then he had the juice after the second shooting.

At least we won one this year then. That helps. The women could win as well, but without Tandrevold that is an outside chance.

 

[AB13]

Yeah, Latypov really served up a historic collapse of the ages. That was tough to watch. All I wanted was Norway to not win.

 

[Havre]

That is why I always watch these events on Swedish tv. It is high risk of course because Norway are often “expected” to win - so when Sweden though it is twice as painful. But when you win then…. Even if Roberto Vacchi is unfortunately not as patriotic in his style as some of the other Swedish commentators.

 

[AB13]

That is why I always watch these events on Swedish tv. It is high risk of course because Norway are often “expected” to win - so when Sweden though it is twice as painful. But when you win then…. Even if Roberto Vacchi is unfortunately not as patriotic in his style as some of the other Swedish commentators.

I guess it would be hilarious to see Norway lose on a norweigan broadcast.

 

[GQS]

Canada wins gold in women's long track pursuit!! Sucks for the Japanese because they were leading and then one of their skaters fell on the last turn to the finish line.

 

[Havre]

I guess it would be hilarious to see Norway lose on a norweigan broadcast.

I can imagine that would be entertaining for you. Generally speaking Norwegian commentators are so over the top and extremely patriotic. Much much much more so than the average Swedish. So when Norway lose in events they are expected to do well in it is quite often doom and gloom on a completely different level than among the Swedes.

I rarely watch anything on Norwegian TV related to sports these days for those reasons. I like the more relaxed Swedish style. Also when Norway and Sweden aren't really involved.

 

[Havre]

Finally one of those days for Norway. I have no idea why, but for some reason why are surprisingly good in the speed skating team event. And Riiber who came out of isolation yesterday with an insane jump in the Nordic Combined. Impossible to say how his fitness is for the cross country, but definitely a shot at gold. If he is 90% of his normal self he'll win this.

 

[Havre]

Riiber comes out of Covid-isolation one day before the even - and then he goes the wrong way when he is way out in front.

These Olympics just keep on delivering strange events.

 

[Oberyn Martell]

Slowly I am getting really angry. Seems like we have an abonnement on 4th places.

 

[Havre]

Ai ai ai. Gold and Silver after Riiber goes the wrong way.

Feel sorry for Riiber, but hopefully he will have two more Olympics.

 

[Eisen]

B

There is an awful lot of ski jumping in the Olympics

Because it's awesome!

 

[NyQuil]

Valieva team claim positive test may be due to grandfather’s heart medication

Quick, write up a back-dated prescription for heart medication for her grandpa.