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Clarke stopped off the rush.
Pass to Foote at the blueline and he flubs it and the Rocket stay in the zone.

If the game continues this way the Comets are done tonight. It is a shooting
gallery and the Comets have had almost no possession.

14:17 to go.

Laberge a great pass to Haolnen in front and he can't get a shot off!

Dugan steral it on the end boards and centers it in front to Engaras and he's pulled down.

Comets to the PP after the .......
TV TO
12:53 to go
 
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Lose the dartw and down the ice.

Foote dumps it and the Rocket score a shorty 1 on1 vs Nemec. He ate up Simone and went to the net and scored.

Off the faxceoof they score again. 2 SH goals 8 seconds apart.

What started out as real good look in the first has dissolved into a disaster since the halfway mark of the 1st.

While still on the PP the Comets are called for slashing. This game is falling apart right before Dineen's very eyes.

Schmelzer can't stuff a SH shot in the crease.

Cross ice 1-timer and Laval sores again. PP goal.

3-1 Laval. 2 SHGs and a PPG.
 
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8:27 to go

You could see this one melting away.
The Comets came out flying and by the 1/2 way mark were slowing noticeably.
By the end of the period the Comets were completely gassed.
Then their PP which has been terrible all season yielded 2 , not 1 but 2, shorties in 8 seconds.

Schmelzer misses from 10 feet in front. Someone got a stick blade in the way.

Thompson picks a pass out of the air and Clarke picks it up, whips one in front, and Foote tips it in.

COMETS SCORE to inch back into this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3-2 Laval.
 

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Walsh coast to coast and shoots from the top of the circle and Primeau holds on.

TV TO
5:07 to go

Schmelzer called for goaltending interference as he fell over the keeper on a chance stick while handling through the crease.

Good PK is imperative.

Turnover in the slot and Johnsson shoots it wide.

Great puck movement and Halonen is too slow to loose pucks twice.

Daws holds a shot from the bottom of the circle.

Kill is successful.

Nemec with a rubber stick ends up with a blueline turnover that ends up rolling to Daws who holds on.

2nd is over and the sore is....
3-2 Laval

SOG for the 2nd 12-8 Laval.
 
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3rd is under way.

Blujus 2 for hooking. A terrible call.

Foote in short handed and HITS THE POST!

Laval comes back, shoots, and the rebound is shoveled in.

4-2 Laval. 16:23 to go.

Sad turn of events.
 
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The #4 PP in the league and the Comets #21 PK unit has been the difference in this game.

Daws is run over by Schnarr.

Comets get a PP. Big F**king deal! 2 shorties against already.

Icing on the Comets 1:07 left on the PP.

Lose the draw and it's dumped in front and a backhander goes through Daws. Bad goal by Nico.

2 PP goals against and 3 shorthanded goals. Time for Dineen and Co. to get their heads out of their asses and coach this team. Comets special teams are pathetic.

Every time one of these 3 idiots makes a media appearance they talk about how great the Comets are playing. Think maybe they need to shake their heads and get down to work. If this team is fortunate enough to make the playofffs their special teams will see them out of those playoffs very quickly.

Toronto for the Comets next for a Wednesday morning 11:00 A.M. start.

I've got better things to do than pull my hair out over this s**t.

Thompson all alone in front and, as is one of the 2 parts of his offensive MO, can't get a shot off. The other part is he misses the net.
Still only 7 goals on the season and only 1 since December 12th.
He held out for a contract this preseason. They gave him $175K on the low end of a 2-way. The idiocy was giving him a $775K 1-way next season. If this guy is a Devil next year he would have to pull off a miracle. $775K to play in Utica would be absurd.


Breakaway from the red line and another goal.
6-2 Laval
 
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Foote dumps it and the Rocket score a shorty 1 on1 vs Nemec. He ate up Simone and went to the net and scored.
Nemec got totally undressed by Gignac there. His defensive game is definitely nowhere close to NHL level. He needs at least another year in Utica. Daws looked really bad. He is light years behind Schmid at this point in time. While Schmid has continued his climb up, Daws dropped this season like a stone.
 

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Nemec got totally undressed by Gignac there. His defensive game is definitely nowhere close to NHL level. He needs at least another year in Utica. Daws looked really bad. He is light years behind Schmid at this point in time. While Schmid has continued his climb up, Daws dropped this season like a stone.
Have to agree. I see and have posted everything you say here as the season has progressed.

Nemec shows a really high IQ and makes some excellent plays. However, those excelllent plays are not the norm, maybe 50-50. He is trying to do everything now in all 3 zones and he is finding the going gets rougher when he loses control up ice and the opponent comes back with him caught out of position or just plain not even there. The 1 on 1s like last night show the need for much more work. I mean he doesn't get undressed like that very often, but guys get around him and get off shots or big time passes a lot. He's been on the ice for a lot of goals against and doesn't kill penalties on a regular basis. His board work is less than stellar. He has also started to make bad passes by trying to force the puck to guys that simply are not open or the path is too clogged with traffic. An NHL D-man he is not, even with a solid partner. The kid needs to be ready and at 19 next season it won't kill the NJ fortunes if he has to play another season in the NHL.

Along the same lines I hope they see that Luke will benefit from some AHL seasoning as well. His offensive thrusts may not be enough to compensate for his learning curve on the back end where his blunders end up in his own net. His brother Quinn has shown even with his similar high offensive skill level, that defense has been a long time coming.

The Devils don't HAVE to put these kids into their lineup as fast as possible to satisfy their fan base's thirst to see them. They have had a glut of youngsters to drool over in recent years. It doesn't take them long to cough them up either. This fan base is just as capable of s**ting all over them and giving up on them when they don't play the way the fans expected them to. Follow the game posts and see the way they dump on every single Devil when individual plays let alone games don't go their way. The current Devils must be somewhere around the bottom of the Division to read the posts every game. Most young kids learning the NHL game don't flourish under those conditions without proper preparation.

I criticize the Comets play when pointing out consistent problems that NOBODY seems to be addressing. Down here we look to see coaches teaching the prospects to play a better game. I've been all over Dineen and Co. as to the shortcomings the players need to get better at if they are going to be NHL capable. Their special teams are flat out bad. Simple very fundamental hockey skills are also not good e.g passing, taking passes, simply moving/shooting the puck out of danger, shooting the puck, and hitting the net.

However, expecting the NJ coaches to do that kind of work with kids up there is not how it's done. If it was, we would see Holtz playing every game and working on the weaknesses they perceive he has. Nope. Lindy doesn't play him because he doesn't think he is good enough. Yet they don't send him down to work on it. If you want to trade him, how do you show his value if he doesn't play. His only high level of achievement was at the AHL level and that was only for one season! He has literally been slowly rotting on the vine in this his 2nd professional season.

POINT BLANK this is not how you deal with a budding goal scorer. He should be in Utica getting good enough. It doesn't happen in NHL practices. Most of the time the guys lower on the totem pole do the drills with other lesser guys as the regular lines and D-pairs are kept together for most of the practice while sliding the better guys around in and out of different line combos and D-pairings to prepare for what happens if someone goes down. Holtz doesn't practice with the top 6 all practice long. He gets a shift now and then and that's just the way it goes. They only practice for an hour and practices are not daily and not done at a game level. Keeping the lesser guys out for post practice work just doesn't measure up to game play. You have to play to get better. Practice and the press box is not where that happens.

As to Daws, consistency is his main problem. With him it's not just consistency from game to game, but shot to shot. He can be brilliant on a great scoring chance and then even more brilliant on the rebound. Then on the next weak wrister from the blueline just kneel there while it goes by him as if he didn't even see it. Some games the bloopers don't happen. Other games it's just the 2 that mean the difference to a team that on average doesn't score more than 3/game. I keep saying if the opponent scores 3 the Comets best hope is to get it to OT.

The Comets schedule from here on out is really tough.
They have Toronto on the road this Wednesday at 11 am and Syracuse at home on Saturday.
Then it's back to Toronto on Monday.
Off to Cleveland for games Wednesday and Friday.
Their 4th road game in a row is at Belleville on the following Wednesday.
The following 6 weekends in a row the Comets will finish the season playing 6 back to backs. 3 of them will be included in AHL 3 games in a weekend debacles.

They will need both Daws and Schmid to be at their best from here on out or their current second place standing may disappear and JUST MAKING THE PLAYOFFS will be their challenge.
 

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Have to agree. I see and have posted everything you say here as the season has progressed.

Nemec shows a really high IQ and makes some excellent plays. However, those excelllent plays are not the norm, maybe 50-50. He is trying to do everything now in all 3 zones and he is finding the going gets rougher when he loses control up ice and the opponent comes back with him caught out of position or just plain not even there. The 1 on 1s like last night show the need for much more work. I mean he doesn't get undressed like that very often, but guys get around him and get off shots or big time passes a lot. He's been on the ice for a lot of goals against and doesn't kill penalties on a regular basis. His board work is less than stellar. He has also started to make bad passes by trying to force the puck to guys that simply are not open or the path is too clogged with traffic. An NHL D-man he is not, even with a solid partner. The kid needs to be ready and at 19 next season it won't kill the NJ fortunes if he has to play another season in the NHL.

Along the same lines I hope they see that Luke will benefit from some AHL seasoning as well. His offensive thrusts may not be enough to compensate for his learning curve on the back end where his blunders end up in his own net. His brother Quinn has shown even with his similar high offensive skill level, that defense has been a long time coming.

The Devils don't HAVE to put these kids into their lineup as fast as possible to satisfy their fan base's thirst to see them. They have had a glut of youngsters to drool over in recent years. It doesn't take them long to cough them up either. This fan base is just as capable of s**ting all over them and giving up on them when they don't play the way the fans expected them to. Follow the game posts and see the way they dump on every single Devil when individual plays let alone games don't go their way. The current Devils must be somewhere around the bottom of the Division to read the posts every game. Most young kids learning the NHL game don't flourish under those conditions without proper preparation.

I criticize the Comets play when pointing out consistent problems that NOBODY seems to be addressing. Down here we look to see coaches teaching the prospects to play a better game. I've been all over Dineen and Co. as to the shortcomings the players need to get better at if they are going to be NHL capable. Their special teams are flat out bad. Simple very fundamental hockey skills are also not good e.g passing, taking passes, simply moving/shooting the puck out of danger, shooting the puck, and hitting the net.

However, expecting the NJ coaches to do that kind of work with kids up there is not how it's done. If it was, we would see Holtz playing every game and working on the weaknesses they perceive he has. Nope. Lindy doesn't play him because he doesn't think he is good enough. Yet they don't send him down to work on it. If you want to trade him, how do you show his value if he doesn't play. His only high level of achievement was at the AHL level and that was only for one season! He has literally been slowly rotting on the vine in this his 2nd professional season.

POINT BLANK this is not how you deal with a budding goal scorer. He should be in Utica getting good enough. It doesn't happen in NHL practices. Most of the time the guys lower on the totem pole do the drills with other lesser guys as the regular lines and D-pairs are kept together for most of the practice while sliding the better guys around in and out of different line combos and D-pairings to prepare for what happens if someone goes down. Holtz doesn't practice with the top 6 all practice long. He gets a shift now and then and that's just the way it goes. They only practice for an hour and practices are not daily and not done at a game level. Keeping the lesser guys out for post practice work just doesn't measure up to game play. You have to play to get better. Practice and the press box is not where that happens.

As to Daws, consistency is his main problem. With him it's not just consistency from game to game, but shot to shot. He can be brilliant on a great scoring chance and then even more brilliant on the rebound. Then on the next weak wrister from the blueline just kneel there while it goes by him as if he didn't even see it. Some games the bloopers don't happen. Other games it's just the 2 that mean the difference to a team that on average doesn't score more than 3/game. I keep saying if the opponent scores 3 the Comets best hope is to get it to OT.

The Comets schedule from here on out is really tough.
They have Toronto on the road this Wednesday at 11 am and Syracuse at home on Saturday.
Then it's back to Toronto on Monday.
Off to Cleveland for games Wednesday and Friday.
Their 4th road game in a row is at Belleville on the following Wednesday.
The following 6 weekends in a row the Comets will finish the season playing 6 back to backs. 3 of them will be included in AHL 3 games in a weekend debacles.

They will need both Daws and Schmid to be at their best from here on out or their current second place standing may disappear and JUST MAKING THE PLAYOFFS will be their challenge.
Thanks for this review and for all of your reviews overall. I have opportunity to watch ahl year ago and read your breakdowns closely, so now I can understand what and how you see the things and I really like your analysis. It’s great for devils community to have an “articler“ for entire farm system. May be you are a bad goalie, but good writer.
 

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Have to agree. I see and have posted everything you say here as the season has progressed.

Nemec shows a really high IQ and makes some excellent plays. However, those excelllent plays are not the norm, maybe 50-50. He is trying to do everything now in all 3 zones and he is finding the going gets rougher when he loses control up ice and the opponent comes back with him caught out of position or just plain not even there. The 1 on 1s like last night show the need for much more work. I mean he doesn't get undressed like that very often, but guys get around him and get off shots or big time passes a lot. He's been on the ice for a lot of goals against and doesn't kill penalties on a regular basis. His board work is less than stellar. He has also started to make bad passes by trying to force the puck to guys that simply are not open or the path is too clogged with traffic. An NHL D-man he is not, even with a solid partner. The kid needs to be ready and at 19 next season it won't kill the NJ fortunes if he has to play another season in the NHL.

Along the same lines I hope they see that Luke will benefit from some AHL seasoning as well. His offensive thrusts may not be enough to compensate for his learning curve on the back end where his blunders end up in his own net. His brother Quinn has shown even with his similar high offensive skill level, that defense has been a long time coming.

The Devils don't HAVE to put these kids into their lineup as fast as possible to satisfy their fan base's thirst to see them. They have had a glut of youngsters to drool over in recent years. It doesn't take them long to cough them up either. This fan base is just as capable of s**ting all over them and giving up on them when they don't play the way the fans expected them to. Follow the game posts and see the way they dump on every single Devil when individual plays let alone games don't go their way. The current Devils must be somewhere around the bottom of the Division to read the posts every game. Most young kids learning the NHL game don't flourish under those conditions without proper preparation.

I criticize the Comets play when pointing out consistent problems that NOBODY seems to be addressing. Down here we look to see coaches teaching the prospects to play a better game. I've been all over Dineen and Co. as to the shortcomings the players need to get better at if they are going to be NHL capable. Their special teams are flat out bad. Simple very fundamental hockey skills are also not good e.g passing, taking passes, simply moving/shooting the puck out of danger, shooting the puck, and hitting the net.

However, expecting the NJ coaches to do that kind of work with kids up there is not how it's done. If it was, we would see Holtz playing every game and working on the weaknesses they perceive he has. Nope. Lindy doesn't play him because he doesn't think he is good enough. Yet they don't send him down to work on it. If you want to trade him, how do you show his value if he doesn't play. His only high level of achievement was at the AHL level and that was only for one season! He has literally been slowly rotting on the vine in this his 2nd professional season.

POINT BLANK this is not how you deal with a budding goal scorer. He should be in Utica getting good enough. It doesn't happen in NHL practices. Most of the time the guys lower on the totem pole do the drills with other lesser guys as the regular lines and D-pairs are kept together for most of the practice while sliding the better guys around in and out of different line combos and D-pairings to prepare for what happens if someone goes down. Holtz doesn't practice with the top 6 all practice long. He gets a shift now and then and that's just the way it goes. They only practice for an hour and practices are not daily and not done at a game level. Keeping the lesser guys out for post practice work just doesn't measure up to game play. You have to play to get better. Practice and the press box is not where that happens.

As to Daws, consistency is his main problem. With him it's not just consistency from game to game, but shot to shot. He can be brilliant on a great scoring chance and then even more brilliant on the rebound. Then on the next weak wrister from the blueline just kneel there while it goes by him as if he didn't even see it. Some games the bloopers don't happen. Other games it's just the 2 that mean the difference to a team that on average doesn't score more than 3/game. I keep saying if the opponent scores 3 the Comets best hope is to get it to OT.

The Comets schedule from here on out is really tough.
They have Toronto on the road this Wednesday at 11 am and Syracuse at home on Saturday.
Then it's back to Toronto on Monday.
Off to Cleveland for games Wednesday and Friday.
Their 4th road game in a row is at Belleville on the following Wednesday.
The following 6 weekends in a row the Comets will finish the season playing 6 back to backs. 3 of them will be included in AHL 3 games in a weekend debacles.

They will need both Daws and Schmid to be at their best from here on out or their current second place standing may disappear and JUST MAKING THE PLAYOFFS will be their challenge.
At least NJ has resisted the temptation to give Nemec NHL games when Marino was injured. Luke Hughes will undoubtedly get the end of this season to play a game or two with NJ and then you imagine he gets to play his way on or off the roster next season. NJ has made some seemingly stubborn decisions with Holtz this season. The biggest issue to me is the next center prospect we might see is Salminen and he is probably two years away. Maybe Shlaine keeps improving as well? At least Vilen and Mukhamadullin have ELCs and should help next season.
 
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At least NJ has resisted the temptation to give Nemec NHL games when Marino was injured. Luke Hughes will undoubtedly get the end of this season to play a game or two with NJ and then you imagine he gets to play his way on or off the roster next season. NJ has made some seemingly stubborn decisions with Holtz this season. The biggest issue to me is the next center prospect we might see is Salminen and he is probably two years away. Maybe Shlaine keeps improving as well? At least Vilen and Mukhamadullin have ELCs and should help next season.
D is good, but the main issue is the beaten dead horse --------- CENTERS!

Captain Schmelzer is an excellent #3, but has been forced into the #2 and often the #1. He has 19 assists and 4 goals. Good for a tie with Pinho for #4 in scoring and most of Pinho's points came in 2022, 1 goal since game #13. This obviously a team starving for points after 47 games. Clarke leads the team with 36 in 46 GP and he is the only one to crack the 30 number. Most of the regulars are in the 20's with 4 at exactly at 20.

Talvitie should not be re-signed, 7points all assists in 37 GP. If he had any serious talent, he would be a major piece of this terrible offense.

Pinho had his chance and I would let him go back on the free agent market.

Stevens could be brought back on an AHL contract and battle Schmelzer for #3/4 C.

Comets require at least 2 historically top AHL centers that will be available as soon as free agency begins.

They will also need at least 2 wings who have scored goals as the top 2 - 4 of the their AHL team's roster.

From there it's do what you can. Clarke and Foote will still be on ELCs if they don't make the Devils roster. They might get a chance, but I don' t see their games as NHL talent.

Thompson would have to clear waivers and Fitz has put himself in a spot with Tyce having signed him to a 1-way for next year at $762K. That's an awful lot of money to pay a guy to play in the AHL if he can't crack the NHL lineup. 7G/13A/20 Pts at this point don't project him as a can't miss for NJ next season. He has also had injury issues here again being the reason for only having played 31 of the Comets 47 games.

Halonen is signed for next season.

D signed for next season are Nemec, Mukhamadullin, Topias, Vukojevic, Okhotyuk, Blujus, and Wotherspoon.

Who ends up in NJ determines how many of these guys are to be Comets. Future trades may produce a player or 2 for the Comets.

Figuring out the whos is a long way off, but a lot of the Comets acquired this season won't be missed if they are not re-signed.
 

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D is good, but the main issue is the beaten dead horse --------- CENTERS!

Captain Schmelzer is an excellent #3, but has been forced into the #2 and often the #1. He has 19 assists and 4 goals. Good for a tie with Pinho for #4 in scoring and most of Pinho's points came in 2022, 1 goal since game #13. This obviously a team starving for points after 47 games. Clarke leads the team with 36 in 46 GP and he is the only one to crack the 30 number. Most of the regulars are in the 20's with 4 at exactly at 20.

Talvitie should not be re-signed, 7points all assists in 37 GP. If he had any serious talent, he would be a major piece of this terrible offense.

Pinho had his chance and I would let him go back on the free agent market.

Stevens could be brought back on an AHL contract and battle Schmelzer for #3/4 C.

Comets require at least 2 historically top AHL centers that will be available as soon as free agency begins.

They will also need at least 2 wings who have scored goals as the top 2 - 4 of the their AHL team's roster.

From there it's do what you can. Clarke and Foote will still be on ELCs if they don't make the Devils roster. They might get a chance, but I don' t see their games as NHL talent.

Thompson would have to clear waivers and Fitz has put himself in a spot with Tyce having signed him to a 1-way for next year at $762K. That's an awful lot of money to pay a guy to play in the AHL if he can't crack the NHL lineup. 7G/13A/20 Pts at this point don't project him as a can't miss for NJ next season. He has also had injury issues here again being the reason for only having played 31 of the Comets 47 games.

Halonen is signed for next season.

D signed for next season are Nemec, Mukhamadullin, Topias, Vukojevic, Okhotyuk, Blujus, and Wotherspoon.

Who ends up in NJ determines how many of these guys are to be Comets. Future trades may produce a player or 2 for the Comets.

Figuring out the whos is a long way off, but a lot of the Comets acquired this season won't be missed if they are not re-signed.
Hopefully they can add a couple of centers. That’s one heck of an AHL defense and of course the goalies look promising.
 

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Nemec got totally undressed by Gignac there. His defensive game is definitely nowhere close to NHL level. He needs at least another year in Utica. Daws looked really bad. He is light years behind Schmid at this point in time. While Schmid has continued his climb up, Daws dropped this season like a stone.
Any thoughts on Rockets' forward Peter Abbandonato?

Never drafted out of the QMJHL but is the Rockets' second-leading scorer.

Anything to see or more of a career minor leaguer?
 

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Any thoughts on Rockets' forward Peter Abbandonato?

Never drafted out of the QMJHL but is the Rockets' second-leading scorer.

Anything to see or more of a career minor leaguer?
He is definitely a minor leaguer to date.

This is his 4th year in professional hockey and his first spent entirely in the AHL. the first 3 were all spent between the ECHL and the AHL.

He is having a very good year and may be coming into his own. He is not listed on the non roster Montreal Canadiens CapFriendly Roster. Thus, I assume he must be on an AHL contract. That would make him an AHL UFA at the end of this season if the Rocket didn't sign him to more than a 1-yr AHL deal. He would become an AHL acquisition for the Comets like Schmelzer and Laberge as examples. He would be a big step up on the likes of Talvitie.

As to anything more than the AHL, I highly doubt it. He is the kind of AHL DEPTH player they should be looking at instead of the Hutchison types.
 

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Toronto Marlies 2 Utica Comets 1

SOG:
Comets - 15 15 15 = 46
Marlies - 7 10 10 = 27

PP:
Comets 0/3
Marlies 1/3

Scoring:
Geertsen (4) from Gambardelli (17) and Schmelzer (20)

Comets lose another 1. Much better effort than the one in Laval on Saturday (6-2 loss), but another loss nevertheless.

This one the same problem as so many others -------Can't Score!

Lone goal a slapshot from the halfboards by D-man Geertsen.

Comets are 1-4-0-1 in their last 6 and 3-6-0-1 in the last 10. Their pursuers continue to creep up.
Syracuse, 2 Pts back with 3 games in hand, plays at Belleville later tonight.
Laval, 5 Pts back, play at Belleville on Friday.
Rochester, 6 points back with 4 games in hand, hosts Toronto on Friday.

Comets don't play again until Saturday at home vs Syracuse. They have had an opportunity to stretch their lead against the 3 in pursuit, but instead have gone into a losing streak including recent losses to both Syracuse and Laval.

A win tonight against last place Belleville and a win in Utica on Saturday would bring the Crunch even with 2 games still in hand.

Laval gets last place Bellville tonight and again at home on Saturday. 2 wins with a Utica loss to the Crunch would leave them 1 point behind the Crunch and Utica.

Teams hoping for their contenders to lose elsewhere, as they are doing, in order to stay ahead usually end up watching themselves tumble below those in pursuit.

They had plenty of opportunities to nail down a win today, but did not. Akira maybe should have had the 1st goal today (a clear look at a shot from between the left dot and hashmarks through the 5-hole), but surrendering 2 goals while his team takes 46 shots can't be the reason for yet another loss while scoring only 1 goal. 15 goals scored in their last 8 starts and shutout 2 times in the 4 played before that is par for the way they operate. There is no room for anything less than perfection on the part of their keepers every single game and that is just not ever going to happen.
 
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