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I'm still not 100% convinced that Johnsson is worse than Tatar. I'd like to see him make his way back to the NHL, but the Devils haven't had a logjam of wingers like this in a long time. Maybe another team sees him tearing up the AHL and wants to add him for depth, but his cap hit will be an issue until we get closer to the trade deadline.
 
Whaddagoal said:
Johnsson tore it up that game. 3 pt night involved in each goal they scored.

I think we will see him back up at some point. Maybe the team did this as a confidence stint. To regain his confidence.

He is definitely too talented for AHL... TBH... I would rather see McLeod or Bastian down in the AHL than see Johnsson there. He can be such a dynamic forward.

The team is holding onto McLeod as if 4th line Pkers are impossible to find. At least can we find a 4th line center pk specialist who can score a goal (at some frequency)....

Im hoping its a confidence rebuild stint for Mango.
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He's also a cap casualty unfortunately...

We'd have to make room to bring him back up.
 
Triumph said:
No, they have room to bring him up. Remember, he was on the roster and scratched for the first game because Nico was on IR.
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If Thompson can handle a more defensive role in the NHL (a big if), I'd love to see him replace McLeod as soon as possible.
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He may need some time in Utica. He’s only played about 20 games since the beginning of last season? Let him get it together and stay healthy for 40 games and see where the NJ playoff picture is. If they have even an outside shot I don’t see any real changes to the lineup absent injuries. If they do decide to sell it should open several spots. To me the question is whether they want to move on from Boquist. Where does he fit in if at all?
 
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My3Sons said:
He may need some time in Utica. He’s only played about 20 games since the beginning of last season? Let him get it together and stay healthy for 40 games and see where the NJ playoff picture is. If they have even an outside shot I don’t see any real changes to the lineup absent injuries. If they do decide to sell it should open several spots. To me the question is whether they want to move on from Boquist. Where does he fit in if at all?
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yeah I meant as soon as he's ready, assuming he ever is
 
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My3Sons said:
He may need some time in Utica. He’s only played about 20 games since the beginning of last season? Let him get it together and stay healthy for 40 games and see where the NJ playoff picture is. If they have even an outside shot I don’t see any real changes to the lineup absent injuries. If they do decide to sell it should open several spots. To me the question is whether they want to move on from Boquist. Where does he fit in if at all?
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I don’t see Thompson going anywhere anytime soon, outside of an injury call-up.

He missed a lot of time due to injury plus COVID over several seasons, including last season with shoulder surgery.

He needs the playing time and his contract is basically set up to have him progress at a reasonable pace this season. He has a one way deal next year already.
 
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Whaddagoal said:
Johnsson tore it up that game. 3 pt night involved in each goal they scored.

I think we will see him back up at some point. Maybe the team did this as a confidence stint. To regain his confidence.

He is definitely too talented for AHL... TBH... I would rather see McLeod or Bastian down in the AHL than see Johnsson there. He can be such a dynamic forward.

The team is holding onto McLeod as if 4th line Pkers are impossible to find. At least can we find a 4th line center pk specialist who can score a goal (at some frequency)....

Im hoping its a confidence rebuild stint for Mango.
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McLeod and Bastian play completely different roles than Johnsson and are a lot bigger than he is.

Johnsson's role is that of a top-six forward and with the acquisition of players like Tatar, Palat and Holtz there is no room for him at the moment.

In fact, even Holtz and Zetterlund aren't in the New Jersey lineup at the present time.
 
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Jersey Fan 12 said:
McLeod and Bastian play completely different roles than Johnsson and are a lot bigger than he is.

Johnsson's role is that of a top-six forward and with the acquisition of players like Tatar, Palat and Holtz there is no room for him at the moment.

In fact, even Holtz and Zetterlund aren't in the New Jersey lineup at the present time.
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Holtz and Z are on Ruff. He is like the rest of the Dinosaurs that stand behind the benches in hockey. They are extremely reticent to play a kid ahead of a vet when they should be easing them into the lineup so they can replace that vet, like Tatar. I don't care what any fan has to say. Young upstarts don't become game day players at practice.

They kept them up because They didn't want to wave them? Why not? Somebody else knows their potential and would snatch them up. Ruff doesn't play them anyways. You keep borderline vets at #s 13 and 14 for filler, not young kids with a seemingly high potential to become players. If you keep the potentials they have to play 50 or so games to work them up to NHL levels. Pressboxing them until enough injuries leave you no choice is not the progressive method.

Their mistakes will be there. That's called learning. You point those things out and practice those flaws out and watch it work come game day. It's not like the players on the ice for the Devils are mistake free. Far From It. They haven't lost any games because Holtz or Zetterlund gaffes killed them.
 
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Jersey Fan 12 said:
McLeod and Bastian play completely different roles than Johnsson and are a lot bigger than he is.

Johnsson's role is that of a top-six forward and with the acquisition of players like Tatar, Palat and Holtz there is no room for him at the moment.

In fact, even Holtz and Zetterlund aren't in the New Jersey lineup at the present time.
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I know. But we could run a more talented 4th line with those guys playing. Johnsson and Boqvist are drfinitely NHL talent and so looks to be Zetterlund. Im not entirely convinced about Holtz but we need to see more of him as well.
 
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Holtz and Z are on Ruff. He is like the rest of the Dinosaurs that stand behind the benches in hockey. They are extremely reticent to play a kid ahead of a vet when they should be easing them into the lineup so they can replace that vet, like Tatar. I don't care what any fan has to say. Young upstarts don't become game day players at practice.

They kept them up because They didn't want to wave them? Why not? Somebody else knows their potential and would snatch them up. Ruff doesn't play them anyways. You keep borderline vets at #s 13 and 14 for filler, not young kids with a seemingly high potential to become players. If you keep the potentials they have to play 50 or so games to work them up to NHL levels. Pressboxing them until enough injuries leave you no choice is not the progressive method.

Their mistakes will be there. That's called learning. You point those things out and practice those flaws out and watch it work come game day. It's not like the players on the ice for the Devils are mistake free. Far From It. They haven't lost any games because Holtz or Zetterlund gaffes killed them.
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Well Ruff is under a lot of pressure now that the fans have turned on him. Ruff is only 62 so if he wants to stay as a head coach in this league than him not getting fired is his top priority now. In retrospect looking back to a week ago its crazy that Ruff got booed at the home opener. I for one was irritable like most of the fan base after those first 2 games but the team responded pretty well. Holtz and Zetteelujd are staying here whether Ruff is our head coach or not. They will be fine because I highly doubt Ruff will be our headcoach after this year when his contract expires. It's frustrating to see the way they have been used but right now winning games is the priority and Ruff is going with his vets.
 
Whaddagoal said:
I know. But we could run a more talented 4th line with those guys playing. Johnsson and Boqvist are drfinitely NHL talent and so looks to be Zetterlund. Im not entirely convinced about Holtz but we need to see more of him as well.
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Nope. Bastian is a better NHL player than Boqvist and Johnsson for his role.
 
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Guadana said:
Nope. Bastian is a better NHL player than Boqvist and Johnsson for his role.
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Johnsson looks to be that classic AAAA player. Watching him live it is easy to see that he is too good for the AHL but if he can't secure a top 6 position in the NHL I don't see him playing in the bottom 6.

On the Comets, Johnsson very much looks like a NHL player. He doesn't chase the play...he reads and anticipates his next move as well as any player to put on a Comets sweater. When he does make a mistake with the puck he immediately makes a good defensive play to recover.

I've also been impressed with the attitude that Johnsson brought down to Utica. It must be very disappointing for a player that looked to become a full time NHL player to be sent back down to the AHL. We haven't seen any signs of pouting but rather just the opposite. He plays with enthusiasm and hard work on every shift.
 
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UticaHockey said:
Johnsson looks to be that classic AAAA player. Watching him live it is easy to see that he is too good for the AHL but if he can't secure a top 6 position in the NHL I don't see him playing in the bottom 6.

On the Comets, Johnsson very much looks like a NHL player. He doesn't chase the play...he reads and anticipates his next move as well as any player to put on a Comets sweater. When he does make a mistake with the puck he immediately makes a good defensive play to recover.

I've also been impressed with the attitude that Johnsson brought down to Utica. It must be very disappointing for a player that looked to become a full time NHL player to be sent back down to the AHL. We haven't seen any signs of pouting but rather just the opposite. He plays with enthusiasm and hard work on every shift.
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I think he justly deserved his place on the roster last year in the NHL. But circumstances and roster have changed. I still think he is an NHL player, just not for defensive "tank" role. And he has no room to play middle-six role on the left side with Palat\Haula, Yegor, Tatar, Wood in the roster.
We just have to many NHL players and young players with good potential. Hope he will find new job.
 
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Guadana said:
I think he justly deserved his place on the roster last year in the NHL. But circumstances and roster have changed. I still think he is an NHL player, just not for defensive "tank" role. And he has no room to play middle-six role on the left side with Palat\Haula, Yegor, Tatar, Wood in the roster.
We just have to many NHL players and young players with good potential. Hope he will find new job.
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And just like that Johnsson is back up with the Devils.
 
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