Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II

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The only team that would even consider throwing a 1st our way for Reimer is the Kings if we take Petersen back. Something I’d do if it was available. Everyone else will be paying much less for Reimer.
Merkley at this point is another Jeff Jillison/Ty Wishart so any value for him is better then nothing, Reimer can fetch a 3rd from a non desperate team and at lest a 2nd from a desperate one
 
The only team that would even consider throwing a 1st our way for Reimer is the Kings if we take Petersen back. Something I’d do if it was available. Everyone else will be paying much less for Reimer.
If Petersen had 1 year left after this one, I’d do that but his 2 years left, I’d want more than that to take him. Maybe one of their countless prospects.
 
Bonino also is a key part of our PK which is first (or second have checked in a little while but definitely high). Bonino is also a C. Bonino also has experience. Can you name any available players that have all 3 of these and an expiring contract?

Take your pick on this page. There's a ton of expiring C's every single year, and alot of these guys can do a lot of things better than Bonino can. Just because he is on a good PK doesn't mean he's some unreal penalty killer, a lot of special teams are good/bad because of the system in place. Either way, depth forwards who provide 0 offense are the easiest thing in the league to acquire/replace...they barely get traded for anything at all.
 
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Take your pick on this page. There's a ton of expiring C's every single year, and alot of these guys can do a lot of things better than Bonino can. Just because he is on a good PK doesn't mean he's some unreal penalty killer, a lot of special teams are good/bad because of the system in place. Either way, depth forwards who provide 0 offense are the easiest thing in the league to acquire/replace...they barely get traded for anything at all.
Nieto hasn’t looked out of place on that second line.

I see very few players there that are actually available. Toews, Monahan, Suter, Sunqvist, Blueger are really the only ones. Toews is definitely better but also a much bigger cap hit. Monahan there’s rumors MTL want to resign but if he’s available definitely. Suter, Sundqvist, Blueger are all similar players and probably better but are on teams that likely won’t be selling. The rest are either bad, not Cs, or not available.
 
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Per Timo Meier Trade Value:

"his starting value on the market is considerably less than the Alex DeBrincat deal last summer"
Sounds about right. Fans will be furious when all we get for Timo is a late 1st and a current or future bottom six forward but they can blame the insane QO Doug Wilson gave him.
 
Per Timo Meier Trade Value:

"his starting value on the market is considerably less than the Alex DeBrincat deal last summer"
Well, Alex does have two 40 goal seasons under his belt and probably would have gotten a third in the shortened 20-21 season.


Take your pick on this page. There's a ton of expiring C's every single year, and alot of these guys can do a lot of things better than Bonino can. Just because he is on a good PK doesn't mean he's some unreal penalty killer, a lot of special teams are good/bad because of the system in place. Either way, depth forwards who provide 0 offense are the easiest thing in the league to acquire/replace...they barely get traded for anything at all.
I do think his experience, especially in cup finals does bump up his value.
 
Sounds about right. Fans will be furious when all we get for Timo is a late 1st and a current or future bottom six forward but they can blame the insane QO Doug Wilson gave him.
I'm obviously not a GM but I'd be happy if Buffalo traded a 2024 1st top 3 protected+Good prospect (like Krebs)+Olofsson for him.

Not going to happen but Meier seems like a really nice fit for every team in the league that wants to get better.
 


To trade, or not to trade...that is the question

Honestly? If we're in position to draft top 3 and bring in someone who can immediately become a fixture then I'm almost more inclined to keep him. You'll have whoever that is on a rookie deal, same with Eklund and Bord. Timo is still young and the team's fortunes can turn around pretty quickly with the right pick in the '23 draft.
 
Honestly? If we're in position to draft top 3 and bring in someone who can immediately become a fixture then I'm almost more inclined to keep him. You'll have whoever that is on a rookie deal, same with Eklund and Bord. Timo is still young and the team's fortunes can turn around pretty quickly with the right pick in the '23 draft.
I think somewhere around $9 million is where I'd draw the line. The Sharks can afford to pay Meier that, and he's good enough and young enough that he should be worth keeping for most of the next eight years anyway. He'd be a good top six winger who can drive play himself and help insulate the young guys coming up, along with Hertl.

That doesn't mean I'm dead-set against trading Meier, though, just that there is an argument for keeping him, and it is possible to afford him without sacrificing the future (it gets tight next year and maybe the year after, but we shouldn't expect to compete either year anyway).
 
I think somewhere around $9 million is where I'd draw the line. The Sharks can afford to pay Meier that, and he's good enough and young enough that he should be worth keeping for most of the next eight years anyway. He'd be a good top six winger who can drive play himself and help insulate the young guys coming up, along with Hertl.

That doesn't mean I'm dead-set against trading Meier, though, just that there is an argument for keeping him, and it is possible to afford him without sacrificing the future (it gets tight next year and maybe the year after, but we shouldn't expect to compete either year anyway).
I agree 100% although it would have been a much easier argument for if we didn’t re-sign Hertl.
 
Nieto's stock is rising but his ceiling in trade is likely a mid-round pick. I don't think Bonino has any value at this point. He is a good PKer in our system buy sucks 5v5, and this isn't the NFL which is structured to allow for dedicated special teams players.
 
Nieto's stock is rising but his ceiling in trade is likely a mid-round pick. I don't think Bonino has any value at this point. He is a good PKer in our system buy sucks 5v5, and this isn't the NFL which is structured to allow for dedicated special teams players.
I’m actually thinking Nieto’s value is higher than that now because he’s shown some offensive skill and his PK is elite - something every team needs.
 
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I’m actually thinking Nieto’s value is higher than that now because he’s shown some offensive skill and his PK is elite - something every team needs.
I think the big thing is instead of it being mid to late round pick (5th-6th) It’s more of a 3rd-4th.
 
It’s absurd that anyone who calls themselves a Sharks fan could advocate for signing Timo to an eight year contract. How many times do you want to watch this team make the exact same mistake over and over again?
 
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I think the big thing is instead of it being mid to late round pick (5th-6th) It’s more of a 3rd-4th.
I agree. It’s a massive difference though.

It’s absurd that anyone who calls themselves a Sharks fan could advocate for signing Timo to an eight year contract. How many times do you want to watch this team make the exact same mistake over and over again?
Oh good. Hodge wants to chime in.
 
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