Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II

[mogambomoroo]

I like your optimism. I mean, maybe!

I have a new, devil-may-care lineup:

Duclair - Hertl - Granlund
Hoffman - Couture - Barabanov
Eklund - Bordeleau - Zadina
Labanc - Sturm - Zetterlund

Thrun - Mukh
Knyzhov - Vlasic
Benning - Gawanke


Weeee!

If that #1 top pair D and the forward group works out, that could actually make us a under the radar good team. I feel like Sharks are going to be a little bit better (hot take) since there is one less big time contract on the team, and I feel like the teamwork will be on the rise (see: Vegas 2018)

No one thinks Sharks are playoff team, and no one is giving Sharks any chance. That could easily make another misfits team, since the stars have left the team. 2019-2023 years we were expected to do more, since we had Burns, Karlsson, Meier.
DW's tenure was delusional, but they still believed they could be good again because they had Burns and Karlsson on the team. Now that Sharks don't have any of those players, they will be more free to actually play the style they should and play as a team, not individual.

At the end of the day I want a top 5 pick and Pittsburgh to pick #11, so we can continue building a young team. I still feel like a Sharks team without superstars, will be better overall. More balanced defence, even though we will not have an elite puck moving defencemen. I like the idea of fully two-way defence for now. When we get a chance to draft our #1D, I hope it's more two-way than offensive, example: Pietroangelo rather than Burns/Karlsson.

 

[Grinner]

I'd like to see the Sharks make a serious run at the Ducks RD Tristan Luneau

 

[mogambomoroo]

I'd like to see the Sharks make a serious run at the Ducks RD Tristan Luneau

I think MG will searching for more of those kind of moves going forward. Thrun, Peterson moves indicate he is searching for young potentials, and has done quite a good job in doing that. Luneau would be awesome and he would get all the time in the world on Sharks team.

 

[Hodge]

If you can get one solid top-4 performance out of Thrun, Knyzhov, Gawanke, Cicek, or Mikhamadullin

Let me stop you there. None of those guys are NHL defensemen let alone top 4 types.

Grier was never trying to acquire Granlund, Hoffman or Rutta. We’re just serving as a trash can for other teams bad contracts in exchange for a 1st. It’s good business but none of those players matter.

 

[Grinner]

Let me stop you there. None of those guys are NHL defensemen let alone top 4 types.

Grier was never trying to acquire Granlund, Hoffman or Rutta. We’re just serving as a trash can for other teams bad contracts in exchange for a 1st. It’s good business but none of those players matter.

Your hot takes are hot garbage

 

[Hodge]

Your hot takes are hot garbage

I don't think you understand what a hot take is if you believe "Granlund, Hoffman and Rutta are cap dumps" qualifies as one.

 

[Grinner]

I don't think you understand what a hot take is if you believe "Granlund, Hoffman and Rutta are cap dumps" qualifies as one.

The not top 4 defenseman if there even NHL players part

 

[Hodge]

The not top 4 defenseman if there even NHL players part

Which of Thrun, Gawanke, Knyzhov (after missing almost 2 full seasons), Cicek or Mukhamadullin do you think is a NHL player right now?

 

[Grinner]

Which of Thrun, Gawanke, Knyzhov (after missing almost 2 full seasons), Cicek or Mukhamadullin do you think is a NHL player right now?

Right now is the critera?
Knyzhov for sure. I'd give Thrun the chance to lock down a roster spot

 

[Hodge]

Right now is the critera?
Knyzhov for sure. I'd give Thrun the chance to lock down a roster spot

Of course right now is the criteria, the post I quoted is talking about the upcoming season.

Knyzhov is not "for sure" anything. He has only played 31 pro games since 2021 and was bad in both the NHL and AHL last season. Thrun will definitely start the season with the Cuda.

 

[Grinner]

Of course right now is the criteria, the post I quoted is talking about the upcoming season.

Knyzhov is not "for sure" anything. He has only played 31 pro games since 2021 and was bad in both the NHL and AHL last season. Thrun will definitely start the season with the Cuda.

Ah! I'm not limiting there worth to the start of next season.
I'll stansd by my statement

 

[Pavelski2112]

Jesus I forgot about Burroughs. We have like a full NHL lineup of middling defensemen.

Middling is giving them too much credit. I don't think there's a legit top-4 defenseman on this team (though Thrun and Muk have potential to be that soon)

 

[Cas]

Middling is giving them too much credit. I don't think there's a legit top-4 defenseman on this team (though Thrun and Muk have potential to be that soon)

I might be even more pessimistic - I don't think we have a single defenseman who isnt either a prospect or a #7. Our defense is abominable - on a good team, our top pair (Vlasic-Benning) is on the bench.

 

[Gecklund]

Which of Thrun, Gawanke, Knyzhov (after missing almost 2 full seasons), Cicek or Mukhamadullin do you think is a NHL player right now?

Thrun and Knyzhov easily. I’d probably say Gawanke is at the very least close.

 

[Hodge]

Thrun and Knyzhov easily. I’d probably say Gawanke is at the very least close.

Thrun and Gawanke have a combined 8 games of NHL experience. I don’t know how anyone can definitively call them NHL defensemen. Knyzhov missed almost two full seasons and was (understandably) terrible in the NHL and AHL when he came back.

 

[Gecklund]

Thrun and Gawanke have a combined 8 games of NHL experience. I don’t know how anyone can definitively call them NHL defensemen. Knyzhov missed almost two full seasons and was (understandably) terrible in the NHL and AHL when he came back.

Thrun was damn good in his NHL games. Probably our second best defenseman behind Benning. Gawanke scored 45 in 68 in the AHL.

You are just wrong about Knyzhov. He took a bit to get up to speed but by the end of the season he was probably our best defensive D.

 

[Mattb124]

There is no chance Muk starts the season in the NHL. Thurn is very likely to start in the AHL which is where he should start. I even think Knyzhov will start the season with the Cuda.

Cuda top 4
Thurn - Gawanke
Knyzhov - Mukhamadullin

Zero chance Knyzhov starts in the AHL, he may be the Sharks best defender.

People are also forgetting about Nikita Okhotiuk who the Sharks got in the Meier trade.

 

[Jargon]

Zero chance Knyzhov starts in the AHL, he may be the Sharks best defender.

People are also forgetting about Nikita Okhotiuk who the Sharks got in the Meier trade.

Didn’t he sign in the KHL?

 

[Friday]

Was looking forward to watching Gush, Bordeleau, and Eklund getting a real run this year but not anymore, it looks too crowded. Thought Bystedt had a chance of starting in the AHL this year, maybe not anymore?

 

[Painful Quandary]

Was looking forward to watching Gush, Bordeleau, and Eklund getting a real run this year but not it looks too crowded. Thought Bystedt had a chance of starting in the AHL this year, maybe not anymore?

Don't worry, you'll get to see those guys post-TDL. Also, there is a good chance there will be opportunities due to injuries.

 

[Jargon]

Was looking forward to watching Gush, Bordeleau, and Eklund getting a real run this year but not anymore, it looks too crowded. Thought Bystedt had a chance of starting in the AHL this year, maybe not anymore?

I’m fairly certain that Eklund will make it. Guschin is likely the first call up for a top 6 player and Bordeleau still has a chance — I’m not sure that Granlund is a good enough C at this point. I’d honestly kinda want to see a Granlund - Bordeleau - Hoffman line.

 

[Mattb124]

Didn’t he sign in the KHL?

Not sure, but he is listed in the Cuda site.

 

[Cas]

Didn’t he sign in the KHL?

I've seen nothing official whatsoever. Games start 1 September.

 

[Pavelski2112]

Didn’t he sign in the KHL?

There was a rumor but it was never verified

Sharks insta posted a video of him at Sharks Ice recently so that took care of that I guess

 

[Jargon]

There was a rumor but it was never verified

Sharks insta posted a video of him at Sharks Ice recently so that took care of that I guess

Oh good so we have like 14 defensemen.