Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II

[tiburon12]

I'd bury Lindblom before Kunin though. He's very easy to forget but Lindblom is easily our worst forward.

yea and Kunin actually does things on the ice

 

[Pavelski2112]

yea and Kunin actually does things on the ice

Barely, but it's more than Lindblom I guess

 

[Barrie22]

There's an argument that we should have bought out both Simek and Lindblom. Neither have NHL futures after their contracts end - cut the cord and open up space.

It would only be opening up a roster spot, not really giving the team any cap space.

Would gain something like 2.5 mil this year, while losing 1.5mil next year.

 

[Barrie22]

Barely, but it's more than Lindblom I guess

For the same price kunin brings double the offensive ability then Lindholm. Kunin last year was atleast a 35 point player when healthy. Just he wasn't healthy for much of the season.

 

[tiburon12]

Barely, but it's more than Lindblom I guess

i actually noticed him the games he played, that's gotta count for somethng

 

[Cas]

It would only be opening up a roster spot, not really giving the team any cap space.

Would gain something like 2.5 mil this year, while losing 1.5mil next year.

Roster space/playing time is what I mean, yes. No point in giving minutes to guys like Simek and Lindblom.

 

[Barrie22]

Roster space/playing time is what I mean, yes. No point in giving minutes to guys like Simek and Lindblom.

Would be better just to bury them in the AHL saves roughly the same amount of cap space and they would still be good enough to help bring up the forwards and defense in the AHL.

 

[TheBeard]

I didn't forget MacDonald, he's just not on a one-way contract while the 7 defensemen I listed are.

So Hasso is going to pay Simek $2M to play for the Cuda? It's so much easier to just send Thrun down.

Simek is getting paid either way. It doesn't matter where he's playing. Burying Thrun just because you feel obligated to keep Simek in the NHL line-up is just bad business and straight denial.

I'd bury Lindblom before Kunin though. He's very easy to forget but Lindblom is easily our worst forward.

I'll give him a pass last year for what he was still recovering from, but he should have a short leash on the big club.

 

[TheBeard]

There's an argument that we should have bought out both Simek and Lindblom. Neither have NHL futures after their contracts end - cut the cord and open up space.

Lindblom is only 26 and, prior to bone cancer, was on pace to be a 20-25 goal scorer. To say with so much certainty he doesn't have a future in the NHL is ridiculous.

 

[gaucholoco3]

I imagine Thrun is in the NHL because the Sharks agreed to put him there if he signed with us

College guys are guaranteed NHL games in April to burn an ELC year and give them a nice incentive to sign. Many go back to the AHL for the following year. Bordeleau is a perfect example of this. Everyone was saying no way he doesn’t start with the sharks last offseason.

 

[Cas]

Lindblom is only 26 and, prior to bone cancer, was on pace to be a 20-25 goal scorer. To say with so much certainty he doesn't have a future in the NHL is ridiculous.

I don't see Lindblom having the offensive skills to score 20-25 goals. He just kind of exists.

That doesn't mean I'm not impressed, or sympathetic, but over the last year, he showed nothing at all, and his statistical record does not engender confidence. He'll be 27 this year, so he's likely already past his scoring peak. It sucks that his peak was wasted because of cancer, but I think that is what it is.

My guess is he finishes the season out as a 4th line winger, puts up fewer than 20 points, and signs a nice contract back home in Sweden, rather than accept a league minimum deal here with no guarantee that he'll even get a full-time NHL job.

 

[TheBeard]

College guys are guaranteed NHL games in April to burn an ELC year and give them a nice incentive to sign. Many go back to the AHL for the following year. Bordeleau is a perfect example of this. Everyone was saying no way he doesn’t start with the sharks last offseason.

I mean where was Bords gonna play? Unless you put him on the wing he's not really suited for the third or fourth lines. He would have been at best (AT BEST) a middle six forward last year and the team had a boatload of those already. The defense is a complete cesspool at this point.

 

[TheBeard]

I don't see Lindblom having the offensive skills to score 20-25 goals. He just kind of exists.

That doesn't mean I'm not impressed, or sympathetic, but over the last year, he showed nothing at all, and his statistical record does not engender confidence. He'll be 27 this year, so he's likely already past his scoring peak. It sucks that his peak was wasted because of cancer, but I think that is what it is.

My guess is he finishes the season out as a 4th line winger, puts up fewer than 20 points, and signs a nice contract back home in Sweden, rather than accept a league minimum deal here with no guarantee that he'll even get a full-time NHL job.

I mean he was a 17 goal scorer at 22 and the year he was diagnosed he was on pace for near 30 (11 in 30 games). Frankly, I think anyone that defines a player's abilities and ceiling based on what they saw last year on this team is doing themselves a great disservice.

 

[Grinner]

I'd bury Lindblom before Kunin though. He's very easy to forget but Lindblom is easily our worst forward.

Need to showcase the player who best has a chance for a higher return

 

[Sysreq]

Have we heard anything about MEV recently? He did see an early end to the season. What if he is going to LTIRetire. That would definitely start to clear the log jam on defense.

 

[Painful Quandary]

Have we heard anything about MEV recently? He did see an early end to the season. What if he is going to LTIRetire. That would definitely start to clear the log jam on defense.

We all know the league would not let the Sharks get away with LTIRetiring a player for bad-at-hockey-itis.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

We all know the league would not let the Sharks get away with LTIRetiring a player for bad-at-hockey-itis.

Even if Vlasic was injured for the rest of his career, we're still eating that deal until it expires.

 

[CupfortheSharks]

Which of these guys is getting waived to make room for Thrun: Vlasic, Ferraro, Rutta, Simek, Benning, Knyzhov, Burroughs

None unless Thrun or someone else comes into camp clearly takes a job. Thrun and the other hopefuls will be playing with the Cuda, working on their weak points, and competing to be the first call up when injuries happen.

Same goes for all the young forwards except Eklund.

 

[Gecklund]

College guys are guaranteed NHL games in April to burn an ELC year and give them a nice incentive to sign. Many go back to the AHL for the following year. Bordeleau is a perfect example of this. Everyone was saying no way he doesn’t start with the sharks last offseason.

Well this is revisionist history. The majority opinion here was that despite his points Bordeleau was not NHL ready.

 

[Mattb124]

Lindblom is only 26 and, prior to bone cancer, was on pace to be a 20-25 goal scorer. To say with so much certainty he doesn't have a future in the NHL is ridiculous.

He made no case to support his future career last year, he was the most nothing player on the Sharks roster.

 

[Mattb124]

College guys are guaranteed NHL games in April to burn an ELC year and give them a nice incentive to sign. Many go back to the AHL for the following year. Bordeleau is a perfect example of this. Everyone was saying no way he doesn’t start with the sharks last offseason.

Bordeleau being an example of this has no bearing on Thrun. The Sharks had better F options last year and he needed more development. Thrun fit right in last year and our D alternatives are poor.

 

[TheBeard]

Bordeleau being an example of this has no bearing on Thrun. The Sharks had better F options last year and he needed more development. Thrun fit right in last year and our D alternatives are poor.

Not to play devil’s advocate because I agree with you, but we also said the same thing about Merkely last year.

He made no case to support his future career last year, he was the most nothing player on the Sharks roster.

No doubt it was a pretty disappointing season, but it would be foolish to let it define his career moving forward.

 

[weastern bias]

i actually noticed him the games he played, that's gotta count for somethng

I noticed Kunin in a bad way, I can't remember the last player I saw so consistently get in his own linemates' way

 

[fasterthanlight]

OK who is next?

Hertl or Couture to Boston or Colorado?

 

[OrrNumber4]

OK who is next?

Hertl or Couture to Boston or Colorado?

In a few years, teams should have a lot more cap space and those players will have a lot less term. If they can maintain their play, the Sharks might be able to salvage something for them.