Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II

[tiburon12]

Canadian teams pay their players in USD too.... Alberta would have lower taxes than a lot of states.

even so, cost of living in Alberta is a fraction what it is in the Bay Area.

For $1M Canadian (basically $0 USD ), you can get a 6bd mansion on a private golf course. What would that get you the Bay?

 

[landshark]

even so, cost of living in Alberta is a fraction what it is in the Bay Area.

For $1M Canadian (basically $0 USD ), you can get a 6bd mansion on a private golf course. What would that get you the Bay?

Maybe a TIC (1bed/1bath) in Daly City or Pacifica? Swift kick in the pants from your SF realtor?

 

[tahoesharksfan]

Weren't we working with Stanford for awhile on sleep, eating and travel? I seem to remember something about that...

 

[landshark]

Weren't we working with Stanford for awhile on sleep, eating and travel? I seem to remember something about that...

I believe they figured out it's better to stay after the game, then fly in the morning, versus fly directly after the game late night. I'd imagine there was some stuff about Ovaltine and Tang too.

 

[NewMuzu24]

I believe they figured out it's better to stay after the game, then fly in the morning, versus fly directly after the game late night. I'd imagine there was some stuff about Ovaltine and Tang too.

The Tang reference reminded me they were also working with NASA on recovery stuff. I think it was meant more for astronauts than athletes, but there’s a photo of Patty in some contraption at NASA Ames that was early on in the research for how compression therapy helps circulation and stuff. I’ll try to dig up the photo.

 

[OffSydes]

Another thing the Bay Area has is that its not Alberta

 

[WTFetus]

Another thing the Bay Area has is that its not Alberta

Obligatory

 

[landshark]

The Tang reference reminded me they were also working with NASA on recovery stuff. I think it was meant more for astronauts than athletes, but there’s a photo of Patty in some contraption at NASA Ames that was early on in the research for how compression therapy helps circulation and stuff. I’ll try to dig up the photo.

I think I remember those. Patty had a Tang IV prior...

 

[landshark]

The Tang reference reminded me they were also working with NASA on recovery stuff. I think it was meant more for astronauts than athletes, but there’s a photo of Patty in some contraption at NASA Ames that was early on in the research for how compression therapy helps circulation and stuff. I’ll try to dig up the photo.

Patty, always photogenic AF, Marleau

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/Spinoff2015.pdf

 

[landshark]

The first version of Patty with a white background above via googs had a transparent background and is webp format... Can't UL webp here so I managed to convert to JPG. I know just enough about this photo editing stuff to be stupid. But, I dunno why but my next thought was to look up '"marc eduard vlasic" dog' and decided smiling NASA Patty would brighten up this pic.

 

[Cas]

The latest Pavement album cover is great.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

The first version of Patty with a white background above via googs had a transparent background and is webp format... Can't UL webp here so I managed to convert to JPG. I know just enough about this photo editing stuff to be stupid. But, I dunno why but my next thought was to look up '"marc eduard vlasic" dog' and decided smiling NASA Patty would brighten up this pic.

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very smart, i think you're ready to make gdts for us next season

 

[landshark]

very smart, i think you're ready to make gdts for us next season

I dunno, coach. The bar was set pretty high for themed, photoshopped type GDT back when they were all the rage.

You saying @Lebanezer isn't cutting the mustard?

Spoiler: heh

 

[tiburon12]

Was thinking about the Karlsson trade the other day, and then saw some twitter discussion today about the Burns trade from MIN.

Wild fans were saying they made out pretty well with Coyle, Seto, and the 1st, but I think the absolute opposite. Not only did the 1st bust and Seto unfortunately run into off-ice issues that affected his on-ice value, Coyle at his best was never close to as impactful as Burns at his worst...and Burns was a perennial Norris candidate for years. The Sharks also made the SCF once and the WCF another time, getting 83 playoff games from 14 series over that time. The Wild meanwhile only got 61 playoff games from 11 series over that same time span and never made it past round 2.

To me, that's a slam dunk "Sharks won the trade".

Now when I think about the Karlsson trade, I can't help but still feel that we're "winners" of the trade as long as Ottawa doesnt make the ECF while Stutzle and Norris are on the team. Like yes, SJS is on a major down swing while Ottawa is on a major upswing, but as far as I'm concerned, they haven't done anything in the seasons following the trade. The Sharks meanwhile have made the WCF and Karl won the Norris (which has franchise value).

Anyone else feel the same way? or is this train of thought major copium?

 

[one2gamble]

The burns trade was an easy sharks win

My issue with the Karl trade is that I thought it was unnecessary. I can't say the sharks won it because of the injuries. I think the trade itself was fair, stutz wasn't part of it and the thought of the sharks being that bad by that draft was not on anyone's radar

 

[sharski]

Was thinking about the Karlsson trade the other day, and then saw some twitter discussion today about the Burns trade from MIN.

Wild fans were saying they made out pretty well with Coyle, Seto, and the 1st, but I think the absolute opposite. Not only did the 1st bust and Seto unfortunately run into off-ice issues that affected his on-ice value, Coyle at his best was never close to as impactful as Burns at his worst...and Burns was a perennial Norris candidate for years. The Sharks also made the SCF once and the WCF another time, getting 83 playoff games from 14 series over that time. The Wild meanwhile only got 61 playoff games from 11 series over that same time span and never made it past round 2.

To me, that's a slam dunk "Sharks won the trade".

Now when I think about the Karlsson trade, I can't help but still feel that we're "winners" of the trade as long as Ottawa doesnt make the ECF while Stutzle and Norris are on the team. Like yes, SJS is on a major down swing while Ottawa is on a major upswing, but as far as I'm concerned, they haven't done anything in the seasons following the trade. The Sharks meanwhile have made the WCF and Karl won the Norris (which has franchise value).

Anyone else feel the same way? or is this train of thought major copium?

Thank you for posting this I feel much better now srs

 

[sharski]

The first version of Patty with a white background above via googs had a transparent background and is webp format... Can't UL webp here so I managed to convert to JPG. I know just enough about this photo editing stuff to be stupid. But, I dunno why but my next thought was to look up '"marc eduard vlasic" dog' and decided smiling NASA Patty would brighten up this pic.

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very smart, i think you're ready to make gdts for us next season

I demand we start doing weekly demos on GDT photochops to break down silos and improve cross-pollination

 

[landshark]

I demand we start doing weekly demos on GDT photochops to break down silos and improve cross-pollination

I do like it when they mix different strains. I prefer my hybrids to be Sativa dominant tho.

 

[Lebanezer]

I dunno, coach. The bar was set pretty high for themed, photoshopped type GDT back when they were all the rage.

You saying @Lebanezer isn't cutting the mustard?

Spoiler: heh

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You should be targeting @slocal and @The Nemesis so they go back to blowing our minds with their photoshop skills.

 

[landshark]

You should be targeting @slocal and @The Nemesis so they go back to blowing our minds with their photoshop skills.

Fully man. @KirbyDots too

This is soooo good!

 

[gaucholoco3]

The burns trade was an easy sharks win

My issue with the Karl trade is that I thought it was unnecessary. I can't say the sharks won it because of the injuries. I think the trade itself was fair, stutz wasn't part of it and the thought of the sharks being that bad by that draft was not on anyone's radar

The EK trade was an absolute steal at the time for arguably the best defenseman in the league with 1 year left on his deal at a steal of a cap hit. It was the injuries and decisions afterwards that ruined the franchise. The Sharks were better than the Blues that season and if not for all the injuries they would have been cup favorites.

The return is not that far off from the Meier trade.

EK
1st, 2nd, 2nd, Norris, Tierney, Damelo, Balcers

Meier
1st, 2nd, Muk, Zetterlund, Okhotik, Johansson

Honestly the 4 players traded in each a close in value at the times of the trades. Obviously Norris improved but that wasn’t known at the time of the trade.

So basically for a full year instead of a deadline and a better player the sharks gave up only a 2nd round pick more than the Devils dud for Meier.

The Sharks absolutely won the trade when it happened. In hindsight it’s different but until time travel is invented hindsight is not a useful tool for evaluating trades.

 

[Pavelski2112]

The EK trade was an absolute steal at the time for arguably the best defenseman in the league with 1 year left on his deal at a steal of a cap hit. It was the injuries and decisions afterwards that ruined the franchise. The Sharks were better than the Blues that season and if not for all the injuries they would have been cup favorites.

The return is not that far off from the Meier trade.

EK
1st, 2nd, 2nd, Norris, Tierney, Damelo, Balcers

Meier
1st, 2nd, Muk, Zetterlund, Okhotik, Johansson

Honestly the 4 players traded in each a close in value at the times of the trades. Obviously Norris improved but that wasn’t known at the time of the trade.

So basically for a full year instead of a deadline and a better player the sharks gave up only a 2nd round pick more than the Devils dud for Meier.

The Sharks absolutely won the trade when it happened. In hindsight it’s different but until time travel is invented hindsight is not a useful tool for evaluating trades.

I've said it ad nauseum, but literally no one expected the Sharks' first to be #3, and Tierney, Balcers, and DeMelo were seen as easily replaceable. Also I still maintain that the Kane trade was far more damaging to the franchise than the EK trade ever was, considering it led to that pick getting traded to OTT, plus leading to the cap crunch that made Pavelski leave, destroying the locker room.

 

[LilLeeroy]

I've said it ad nauseum, but literally no one expected the Sharks' first to be #3, and Tierney, Balcers, and DeMelo were seen as easily replaceable. Also I still maintain that the Kane trade was far more damaging to the franchise than the EK trade ever was, considering it led to that pick getting traded to OTT, plus leading to the cap crunch that made Pavelski leave, destroying the locker room.

Nobody expected it to be #3, but there should have been some protection on. Like every pick that is more than a year out has had since that trade.

Plus, the pick wouldn't have been #3 either if he kicked Jones' butt out the door when it became obvious he needed to go.

 

[SjMilhouse]

Was thinking about the Karlsson trade the other day, and then saw some twitter discussion today about the Burns trade from MIN.

Wild fans were saying they made out pretty well with Coyle, Seto, and the 1st, but I think the absolute opposite. Not only did the 1st bust and Seto unfortunately run into off-ice issues that affected his on-ice value, Coyle at his best was never close to as impactful as Burns at his worst...and Burns was a perennial Norris candidate for years. The Sharks also made the SCF once and the WCF another time, getting 83 playoff games from 14 series over that time. The Wild meanwhile only got 61 playoff games from 11 series over that same time span and never made it past round 2.

To me, that's a slam dunk "Sharks won the trade".

Now when I think about the Karlsson trade, I can't help but still feel that we're "winners" of the trade as long as Ottawa doesnt make the ECF while Stutzle and Norris are on the team. Like yes, SJS is on a major down swing while Ottawa is on a major upswing, but as far as I'm concerned, they haven't done anything in the seasons following the trade. The Sharks meanwhile have made the WCF and Karl won the Norris (which has franchise value).

Anyone else feel the same way? or is this train of thought major copium?

I agree generally. Just sucks the 1st turned into 3 overall which I dont think anyone really thought was a realistic outcome of that pick when the trade was made. That makes it look waaaay worse than it is. A lot depends on what Norris turns out to be as well, hard to judge off 1 good season followed by injury

 

[Grinner]

I dunno, coach. The bar was set pretty high for themed, photoshopped type GDT back when they were all the rage.

You saying @Lebanezer isn't cutting the mustard?

Spoiler: heh

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It almost looks like a Star Wars hover bike