I do think we have better center depth that most of the non playoff teams and I think that is what is truly holding the team back from finishing in last. Hertl and Couture as our top 2 centers is much better than teams like Anaheim, Chicago, Columbus, Detroit, Arizona, etc.
Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II
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Chicago is better with Bedard (plus adding Hall, Perry, and Foligno - even with all being past their prime). CBJ is better without massive injuries plus adding Provorov and Severson. Anaheim is probably about the same, but slightly better with development of young players. Philly is much worse. Arizona about as bad. San Jose likely to be much worse on ice but about the same in standings points.
It’s a race to the bottom between SJ, PHI, ARI, and ANA. I don’t see many ways that this team finishes outside of the bottom 5 under virtually any circumstance.
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If a third of the OT losses were switched to wins over the course of last season, the team wouldn't have sniffed the top 5. I think they got (un)lucky being unable to win in OT.
Hey guys, I was scouring through this thread looking for what you guys thought your starting lineup will look like and I'm not having much luck.
The player I am interested in is Henry Thrun. Do you all think he plays with the Sharks next year, or is he AHL bound?
TIA!!
The player I am interested in is Henry Thrun. Do you all think he plays with the Sharks next year, or is he AHL bound?
TIA!!
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Depends a lot on what the Karlsson deal looks like and who it returns. If it’s Pittsburgh and POJ is part of the return, then Thrun is assuredly AHL bound barring another move to deal Ferraro.
I think Thrun is one of the 6 best defensemen, but handedness isn’t in his favor with a logjam of LHD and Muk on the way too. Think the Karlsson deal has to happen and have to see the return before any real lineup discussions can be had for 2023-24.
But Timo and Karlsson literally willed OT into existence a lot of those games. Without EK65 and Timo, they don’t even get to OT for most of those games.
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Probably more the latter. There doesn't seem to be much chance he turns into an elite player, "merely" a very good one.
That's not an indictment of Eklund. We should be happy if we get a Forsberg, not upset that we didn't get a Kucherov.
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Which Fosberg? Cause Peter scored 100+ too:
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Statistics of Peter Forsberg, a hockey player from Ornskoldsvik, Sweden born Jul 20 1973 who was active from 1990 to 2011.
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Absolutely. If the Sharks had league average goaltending and won half of their OT games, we’re probably barely in the top-10 of the draft. I think drafting 4th was incredibly lucky on the part of the Sharks.
Not too surprising that they had to get lucky, that makes up for Karlsson's 100 points
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I didn’t realize the Penguins can still technically but Granlund out since Drew O’Connor filed for arbitration. I think that means we could potentially make a Karlsson trade work by just taking back Jan Rutta, assuming the Sharks are on Petry’s no trade list.
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What? Who have we added that adding a few more "NHLers" would be threatening us being a 9-15 pick range? lol.
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I feel like if we still had Timo, this is arguably a bubble playoff team with Karlsson, Duclair, and Eklund.
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Depends on how bad the goaltending is, really.
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I also think it could be argued they were incredibly lucky to get to OT in most of those games.
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I would argue the opposite. How many times were the Sharks leading in the third period and gave up back-breaking goals to tie it? There were a ton of games that the Sharks should have won in regulation that ended up as OTLs.
Teams, like last year’s Sharks, that don’t play a structured defense first game lend themselves to bad goaltending and giving up leads. It would absolutely amazing if any goaltender put up decent stats playing for us last year.
There was ten times last season where the Sharks gave up the tying goal in the 3rd period to go to overtime. There were eight times last season where the Sharks scored the tying goal in the 3rd to get it to overtime.
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Yes but also how many times did Sharks somehow score when they probably shouldn’t have? I might be misremembering but there were definitely times where they gave up grade A chance after grade A chance or would get hemmed in their zone for what felt like the whole game and somehow not get scored on.
I also think that while our depth might be a bit better this season than last, without Timo we are not going to be scoring many goals. Our defense is also worrisome to say the least.
Sharks had the least amount of wins of any team last year. That is a fact haha they suck either way
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I feel like we lost in a lot of pretty inexplicable ways this year. Like how we scored an ENG and then proceeded to lose the game
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Great statistic. It’s easy as fans to see the luck going a singular direction when in reality (as it usually does in sports) the luck evens out over the course of a season.
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Korpisalo put up good numbers on a horrid CBJ team. It can be done.
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