Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II

[fasterthanlight]

Assume EK65 was UFA after this year. What would his next NHL contract look like?

I think a team would give him 3 or 4 years x 9M easily.

 

[Gecklund]

Assume EK65 was UFA after this year. What would his next NHL contract look like?

I think a team would give him 3 or 4 years x 9M easily.

A team would easily give him the contract he’s on now.

 

[Bizz]

13 games for Zetterlund as a Shark - Anyone feel better/worse about him?

He's a waste of a roster spot. And that's me being nice.

 

[TheBeard]

A team would easily give him the contract he’s on now.

Don't know if he'd get 11.5. I can't see a team going more than 10.

 

[jMoneyBrah]

13 games for Zetterlund as a Shark - Anyone feel better/worse about him?

Frankly, I prefer Eyssimont’s game over Zetterlund so far. Devils fans said we’d like Zetterlund’s motor, physicality, and that he had some skill. IMO he hasn’t proven better than Eyssimont in any of those areas, except maybe in small flashes.

 

[Gecklund]

Don't know if he'd get 11.5. I can't see a team going more than 10.

He has 21 more points than the next closest D. He’d easily get over 10. If Dougie Hamilton can get 9, EK easily gets over 10.

 

[TheBeard]

He has 21 more points than the next closest D. He’d easily get over 10. If Dougie Hamilton can get 9, EK easily gets over 10.

I do think context matters. He wouldn’t be allowed to roam as aggressively as he is here. He would need to be a little more defensively responsible.

 

[Gecklund]

I do think context matters. He wouldn’t be allowed to roam as aggressively as he is here. He would need to be a little more defensively responsible.

His defensive issues have been massively overstated. He’d also have a much better partner than a bunch of 6/7 D.

 

[Cas]

He has 21 more points than the next closest D. He’d easily get over 10. If Dougie Hamilton can get 9, EK easily gets over 10.

Dougie Hamilton was five years younger, had a better recent track record of health, and wasn't really all that far back of Karlsson in terms of overall value, if he even was (certainly Karlsson was better in his "contract year").

Hamilton was almost certainly a much more valuable asset than Karlsson hypothetically would be. Karlsson would probably still get a very high cap hit, but over many fewer seasons and thus a less valuable overall contract.

 

[Gecklund]

Dougie Hamilton was five years younger, had a better recent track record of health, and wasn't really all that far back of Karlsson in terms of overall value, if he even was (certainly Karlsson was better in his "contract year").

Hamilton was almost certainly a much more valuable asset than Karlsson hypothetically would be. Karlsson would probably still get a very high cap hit, but over many fewer seasons and thus a less valuable overall contract.

Hamilton had one season that he wasn’t considered a locker room cancer. He didn’t have a single season at a PPG. The only reason he was seen as kind of good defensively is because of Slavin.

Karlsson is WAY better right now than Hamilton ever has been.

 

[KovalchukFistPump]

As Grier said, “You still have to fill out the team”. He’s been a good tank replacement for Timo.

The fact that some NJD fans thought Zetterlund was untouchable shows how delusional a portion of them are.

Devils fans coming in here to agree. The meat of the trade for you guys is the potentially 2 1st round picks and Mukh's potential.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Maybe we can trade Zetterlund for the rights to TImo

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Maybe we can trade Zetterlund for the rights to TImo

I'm sure Devils fans would gladly take their boy back for cheaper ZetterBAE and Zettergod as they used to call him.

Right? @KovalchukFistPump

 

[Karl Prime]

I do think context matters. He wouldn’t be allowed to roam as aggressively as he is here. He would need to be a little more defensively responsible.

EK's best ever overall season was under Guy Boucher, where he was good defensively and still put up 71 in 77 without a true top end forward. Give him a better partner, better coach with a better defensive system, and more than one top level goal scorer and he would still be PPG. Say he gets traded to Edmonton. His partner would be Ekholm/Nurse, having McDrai means more of his passes would be finished (not to mention two elite playmakers who would get him the puck in better spots too), and just having a better team overall means it would be simpler to get and keep the puck in the offensive zone.

In 2011-12 he was 25 points ahead of the next D and he was deployed less aggressively than he has been this season.

 

[Le Rosbeef]

Spitballing, here...

Jeremy Swayman offer sheet in the summer. 4 years, $3.85m per. Compensation is an SJS 2023 second rounder (presently about 35th overall). Boston has no draft pick in the top 2 rounds of the next two drafts.

Yay? Nay?

(For what it's worth, yes, I think Swayman has the chance to be a franchise/No.1 goaltender...)

 

[Grinner]

Spitballing, here...

Jeremy Swayman offer sheet in the summer. 4 years, $3.85m per. Compensation is an SJS 2023 second rounder (presently about 35th overall). Boston has no draft pick in the top 2 rounds of the next two drafts.

Yay? Nay?

(For what it's worth, yes, I think Swayman has the chance to be a franchise/No.1 goaltender...)

At that amount the Bruin don't match?

 

[Bizz]

At that amount the Bruin don't match?

Ullmark is their guy. They probably won't want to spend nearly 4M AAV on a backup.

 

[hohosaregood]

Spitballing, here...

Jeremy Swayman offer sheet in the summer. 4 years, $3.85m per. Compensation is an SJS 2023 second rounder (presently about 35th overall). Boston has no draft pick in the top 2 rounds of the next two drafts.

Yay? Nay?

(For what it's worth, yes, I think Swayman has the chance to be a franchise/No.1 goaltender...)

I think itd be a 2024 2nd since it'd be after the draft. I don't think hed sign it with that kind of term. Too team friendly

 

[Grinner]

Ullmark is their guy. They probably won't want to spend nearly 4M AAV on a backup.

I'd match it and then trade him off. He'd be a steal locked up for term at that price
If the Sharks want him they need to trade for him

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Spitballing, here...

Jeremy Swayman offer sheet in the summer. 4 years, $3.85m per. Compensation is an SJS 2023 second rounder (presently about 35th overall). Boston has no draft pick in the top 2 rounds of the next two drafts.

Yay? Nay?

(For what it's worth, yes, I think Swayman has the chance to be a franchise/No.1 goaltender...)

It would be a 2024 2nd rounder that I’m sure Boston would match. It would be more fruitful to figure out a trade there if we’re identifying Swayman as our goalie for the future. I’m not ready to seek out a goalie personally unless it happens internally.

 

[Shark Finn]

Why would he sign here, he'd get a better deal from a better team

 

[Karl Prime]

I love that Quinn defended Karlsson's plus minus number by mentioning the empty net goals. So many voters are going to look at his plus minus and decide not to vote for him when in reality he's basically been an even player on an awful team (-1 without ENG).

 

[fasterthanlight]

Don't pay goalies, don't pay assets for goalies, and do trade James Riemer

 

[Gecklund]

Knyzhov extended for 2 more years. He will be the next EK partner traded.

 

[hohosaregood]

So at least Ferraro, Knyzhov, Vlasic, Thrun, and Simek on the left side for next year.