Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II

[DG93]

Odd trade, wonder if that means that Eyssimont on his own had zero value...this way at least Grier gets something for Namestnikov w/ extra retention.

 

[Alaskanice]

I can’t see Namestnikov pulling on a teal sweater. He just isn’t in concert with Griers vision.

 

[Jargon]

My theory is Grier figures Zetterlund can take Eyssimont’s place and Kaut can come back and play with Hertl. I’m sure Namestnikov is gone unless they have a good trade set up for Sturm and need a stopgap.

 

[LadyStanley]

I saw his dad, Evgeny, play. Thanks Grier for making another stupid trade and reminding me I’m old

Yesterday was 40th anniversary of finale of M*A*S*H. I was college senior.

 

[fasterthanlight]

Huh. The Sharks posted about Names on the website... I feel they wouldn't do that if they were going to flip him. Weird

 

[Jargon]

Huh. The Sharks posted about Names on the website... I feel they wouldn't do that if they were going to flip him. Weird

Don’t think Grier’s plans are shared with the marketing people but I also wonder if this is actually about a Sturm and Bonino trade… just to have someone play C.

 

[OrrNumber4]

I mean...is it possible that Grier did this as a favor to Eyssimont?

 

[Cas]

I mean...is it possible that Grier did this as a favor to Eyssimont?

He just got waived. If you're spending your time trying to do favors for waiver wire pickups, by trading them for more expensive, older players, you should be fired immediately.

I seriously doubt that was a consideration.

 

[Karl Prime]

Don’t think Grier’s plans are shared with the marketing people but I also wonder if this is actually about a Sturm and Bonino trade… just to have someone play C.

Zetterlund-Couture-Barabanov
Johnsson-Hertl-Kaut
Svechnikov-Namestnikov-Gregor
Lindblom-Lorentz-Gadjovich

What a forward group to lose with.

In seriousness I don't see Sturm moving. Bonino yes, because he's a proven veteran and elite penalty killer. And he takes faceoffs right handed so he's exotic.

 

[LadyStanley]

Good place to live, etc

 

[themelkman]

Good place to live, etc

Thanks for the service, but goodbye.

Not sure we would be able to extract any value out of Bonino next year

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Assuming we dump Namestnikov, Bonino, and Reimer, how pathetic is this team?

Labanc-Hertl-Zetterlund
Gregor-Couture-Barabanov
Johnsson-Sturm-Svechnikov
Lindblom-Lorentz-Kaut

MacDonald-Karlsson
Ferraro-Benning
Vlasic-Simek

Kahkonen
Dell

I hope we atleast play some rookies next year so there is something exciting worth watching...because right now we're playing 48, 39, and 65 with absolute plyons.

 

[likewall32]

You're all looking at this wrong. We've been thinking that they're rebuilding to go to the playoffs, but with yesterday's trade they're now headed once again for the play-ovs.

Seriously though, assuming there are no additional moves today, I will be staying up late tonight to get hopefully just one shift of a modern Ov line.

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

Russians and Swedes. Grier is trying to make us the Red Wings of the 90’s and 2000’s.

 

[STL Shark]

Assuming we dump Namestnikov, Bonino, and Reimer, how pathetic is this team?

Labanc-Hertl-Zetterlund
Gregor-Couture-Barabanov
Johnsson-Sturm-Svechnikov
Lindblom-Lorentz-Kaut

MacDonald-Karlsson
Ferraro-Benning
Vlasic-Simek

Kahkonen
Dell

I hope we atleast play some rookies next year so there is something exciting worth watching...because right now we're playing 48, 39, and 65 with absolute plyons.

Eklund will play and maybe Bordeleau. Otherwise, we don't have anything remotely resembling a forward prospect that should sniff the NHL next year.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Eklund will play and maybe Bordeleau. Otherwise, we don't have anything remotely resembling a forward prospect that should sniff the NHL next year.

Depending on lottery luck we could have another. And you never know which young guy could push for a bottom-6 role after off-season training.

On defense Muhk/Thrun/Kniasev/etc. could also have a good off-season plan and take a guy like Simek's spot on the third pair. I mean we just had Scott Harrington playing on our defense.

 

[Jargon]

I have a feeling Grier is going to be very active in the off-season. He mentioned how important the off season was going to be in an interview. I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s a very different team next fall. I think part of his strategy seems to be taking a flyer on waiver guys, reclamation projects, etc. I can see him keeping Svech and Sturm, but I think Labanc, Gregor, Lindblom and Johnsson (unless he shows something down the stretch and signs at a minimum are gone).

Next year is:

Eklund - Hertl - ??
Zetterlund - Couture - Barabanov
??(Bordeleau?) - Sturm - ?? (Kaut?)
?? - Lorentz - Svechnikov

And defense is like…

?!! - !!?
Vlasic - Benning
Thrun - ?!? (Okhotiuk?)

Soooo…

 

[one2gamble]

I have a feeling Grier is going to be very active in the off-season. He mentioned how important the off season was going to be in an interview. I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s a very different team next fall. I think part of his strategy seems to be taking a flyer on waiver guys, reclamation projects, etc. I can see him keeping Svech and Sturm, but I think Labanc, Gregor, Lindblom and Johnsson (unless he shows something down the stretch and signs at a minimum are gone).

Next year is:

Eklund - Hertl - ??
Zetterlund - Couture - Barabanov
??(Bordeleau?) - Sturm - ?? (Kaut?)
?? - Lorentz - Svechnikov

And defense is like…

?!! - !!?
Vlasic - Benning
Thrun - ?!? (Okhotiuk?)

Soooo…

There is a good third and fourth line in there somewhere. There is an avg second line in there somewhere. There is no first line and no top 4 defense lol

 

[Lebanezer]

Goldobin >>> Pastrnak.

Still.

 

[Jargon]

Well, if Eklund performs and we can get them a good winger in FA, it’s not a bad first line…?

But yeah, the D is.. yeah. Grier seems to be actively trying to remake the D so we’ll see what he manages to do. I forgot Ferraro in my breakdown too. If we get Fabbro it’s probably like:

Fabbro - Ferraro
Thrun - Benning
Vlasic - Okhotiuk

…they will get 4 points between them.

 

[Gecklund]

I have a feeling Grier is going to be very active in the off-season. He mentioned how important the off season was going to be in an interview. I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s a very different team next fall. I think part of his strategy seems to be taking a flyer on waiver guys, reclamation projects, etc. I can see him keeping Svech and Sturm, but I think Labanc, Gregor, Lindblom and Johnsson (unless he shows something down the stretch and signs at a minimum are gone).

Next year is:

Eklund - Hertl - ??
Zetterlund - Couture - Barabanov
??(Bordeleau?) - Sturm - ?? (Kaut?)
?? - Lorentz - Svechnikov

And defense is like…

?!! - !!?
Vlasic - Benning
Thrun - ?!? (Okhotiuk?)

Soooo…

I’d actually be really interested to see how either Kaut or Zetterlund does on that 1st line.

I still highly doubt Karlsson gets moved. It’s just such a difficult trade. If he does get moved though there will obviously be some contracts coming back so those will fill some of those spots. The Karlsson trade to me feels like a lot like Tavares in FA. We get rumored until the end and we miss out.

 

[hohosaregood]

Going out on a limb here but once Krejci and Bergeron retire, Boston's gonna be in desperate need of a top 6 center. I wonder if they could look into Hertl once the cap starts to rise. Maybe capitalize on that Czech connection with Pasternak.

 

[STL Shark]

Well, if Eklund performs and we can get them a good winger in FA, it’s not a bad first line…?

But yeah, the D is.. yeah. Grier seems to be actively trying to remake the D so we’ll see what he manages to do. I forgot Ferraro in my breakdown too. If we get Fabbro it’s probably like:

Fabbro - Ferraro
Thrun - Benning
Vlasic - Okhotiuk

…they will get 4 points between them.

That bottom pairing might not ever get a puck out of the DZ haha. Book on Okhotiuk is he's fast and plays physical but can't move the puck. Vlasic is average to slow, plays passive, and can't move the puck.

If Karlsson is moved, we will probably target a young puck moving RHD in the deal (think Bouchard type) or target someone cheap in UFA to play 2nd pairing and PP. Think Grier has shown that while he isn't going to go out and jeopardize a rebuild/retool, he also doesn't want to put guys in roles that they aren't built for as much as possible and stunting their development. Not having anyone that can remotely run a power play would be a growth killer for guys like Eklund and Co.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

No point assuming Karlsson gets moved until there is a team rumoured to be interested with an actual need for him. That was the Oilers, but now they have Ekholm for a while. Next year's D is probably:

Thrun-Karlsson (Thrun gets the Megna treatment)
Ferraro-Benning
Vlasic-Okhotyuk
Simek

 

[LadyStanley]

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