Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Savoie Gets an Audition With the Trade Deadline Looming

[VeteranPresence]

And the whole issue with this discussion is generally about how simple some think that the solution is simply because of how poor they suggest the Oilers' current situation is.

Reality is that the goalie market is less than stellar. The Oilers have limited cap space. And the team also have other areas they should address prior to the playoffs.

Gibson has a frequent injury history to go along with the last half decade of poor goaltending. We're seeing the risk in real time.

This would have any relevance if the Oilers had tried… anything. They have not.

 

[Oilhawks]

And the whole issue with this discussion is generally about how simple some think that the solution is simply because of how poor they suggest the Oilers' current situation is.

Reality is that the goalie market is less than stellar. The Oilers have limited cap space. And the team also have other areas they should address prior to the playoffs.

Gibson has a frequent injury history to go along with the last half decade of poor goaltending. We're seeing the risk in real time.

Skinner is a known quantity of not being good enough here. What they should have done was picked up cheap insurance in the offseason, but they didn’t. So they will have to take a risk by either staying the course, or gambling on someone who is available

 

[McAsuno]

Wake me up when its trade deadline.
Good thing I've been busy working full time so I don't have to watch Sievenner in net.

 

[Mr Positive]

This would have any relevance if the Oilers had tried… anything. They have not.

The fact that we haven't tried anything is what props up Skinner. People bring up his stats not being good enough compared to other goalies but every team is unique so you can't truly compare goalies between different teams, unless you bring in a goalie from a different team.

The uncertainty is what kills me. There are a lot of pundits out there that just love Skinner and use his game 7 Finals appearance as proof he's good, like if the team elevates, so will Skinner. So it's not that his poor play is random, and that when the chips are down he will bring the goods, as long as the team does

Pickard is a bit of a canary in the coal mine for me. His stats got a boost from coming here, and hes been in the league long enough that we know what he is. That tells me that it can't be the team's fault that Skinner's stats are bad.

 

[Zerotonine]

You gotta think this puts a a fire under bowman for a goalie now

 

[rockinghockey]

No way I trade for Risto, him and Nurse would be terrible together

 

[rockinghockey]

I think an amazing Deadline would be

Arivdsson, O'Reilly, Akey and a 1st(2026) for Rantanen ($1.625M retained)

Pickard, 2025 2nd and 2026 4th for Vejmelka (50% retainted)

Kapanen, Jarventie & 2027 2nd for Olekiask ($1.6M retainted) and John Hayden (AHL/NHL tweener veteran RHC)

Then in the playoffs you look like

Rantanen - McDavid - Hyman
Skinner - Draisaitl - Podkolzin
Kane - Nuge - Perry
Janmark - Henrique - Brown
Savoie, Hayden, Ryan

Ekholm - Bouchard
Oleksiak - Nurse
Kulak - Emberson
Klingberg, Stetcher

Vejmelka
Skinner

I would rather go after Tuch than Rantanen as I think we can do it without O’Reilly. We need to keep a few young prospects that will give us some youth. If we are lucky we will have enough to resign Tuch as with Rantanen we can’t afford to resign.

 

[Spawn]

I would rather go after Tuch than Rantanen as I think we can do it without O’Reilly. We need to keep a few young prospects that will give us some youth. If we are lucky we will have enough to resign Tuch as with Rantanen we can’t afford to resign.

Yeah, those proposals completely bankrupt the Oilers future. If you're giving up that much capital in draft/prospects we need to get some longer term pieces back. The playoffs are too much of a crap shoot to invest that much into one shot. Maybe if Rantanen had an extension in place. But even then... it's a lot to give up.

I love the idea of Tuch, but are the Sabres actually interested in trading him? He's still signed for next season and is from the area is he not? I thought he was one of the guys who was committed to being in Buffalo. There can't be many guys like that around for the Sabres.

 

[Soundwave]

The forward pool is mediocre so is the D at this deadline. There isn't a Hyman or Ekholm tier add there unless you're getting somehow getting like Rantanen which will cost a small fortune both in assets and cost to resign.

We've wasted a shit ton of money on poor forward investments too. 4 million on Arvidsson. 3 million on Skinner. Almost 4 million to have Connor Brown this year. 5 million+ on Evander Kane. 3 million on Henrique.

Kane's injury woes are unfortunate but the bottom line is that's almost $20 million spent in forwards who frankly don't bring enough to the table and none of them are even locks to play in the top 6.

Poor management in a nutshell.

The price on Tuch is likely to be steep too, a 1st + O'Reilly perhaps, I don't see Buffalo being in a rush to trade him at all. He's on pace for 28 goals, our 1st isn't even a 2025 1st.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

No way I trade for Risto, him and Nurse would be terrible together

yeah I just don't get it with Ristolainen. Maybe I just haven't seen enough but I made a point of focusing on him in the 2 games we played the Flyers as well as his 4 Nations games and I haven't seen anything from him that makes me think he'd look good in our top-4.

 

[Zerotonine]

The forward pool is mediocre so is the D at this deadline. There isn't a Hyman or Ekholm tier add there unless you're getting somehow getting like Rantanen which will cost a small fortune both in assets and cost to resign.

We've wasted a shit ton of money on poor forward investments too. 4 million on Arvidsson. 3 million on Skinner. Almost 4 million to have Connor Brown this year. 5 million+ on Evander Kane. 3 million on Henrique.

Kane's injury woes are unfortunate but the bottom line is that's almost $20 million spent in forwards who frankly don't bring enough to the table and none of them are even locks to play in the top 6.

Poor management in a nutshell.

The price on Tuch is likely to be steep too, a 1st + O'Reilly perhaps, I don't see Buffalo being in a rush to trade him at all. He's on pace for 28 goals, our 1st isn't even a 2025 1st.

How does Kane not bring enough? He is injured right now sure but when he has played he has far exceeded expectations aswell as his salary when healthy

 

[brentashton]

The fact that we haven't tried anything is what props up Skinner. People bring up his stats not being good enough compared to other goalies but every team is unique so you can't truly compare goalies between different teams, unless you bring in a goalie from a different team.

The uncertainty is what kills me. There are a lot of pundits out there that just love Skinner and use his game 7 Finals appearance as proof he's good, like if the team elevates, so will Skinner. So it's not that his poor play is random, and that when the chips are down he will bring the goods, as long as the team does

Pickard is a bit of a canary in the coal mine for me. His stats got a boost from coming here, and hes been in the league long enough that we know what he is. That tells me that it can't be the team's fault that Skinner's stats are bad.

Very good perspective.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Sure, but like the team is finished with the current situation.

You have a significant amount of the group think waxing poetic about the misunderstood hero Jack Campbell, because of a good 20 minutes he played against the Kings one time in the playoffs, pining for that player and his brilliance.

The Oilers feature a #3 who's playing well, but over his head and the worst goalie in the history of the league as their starter, who would have already been arrested(?) for his play in any other market.

If Demko isn't an option, the team is done, because they don't have the will or assets for the other guys.

If you're trading with the Oilers, why don't you hold out for multiple firsts, because they're so slow on the draw despite being extremely desperate. It's all pretty hopeless.

Demko is finished.

Hes no longer a goalie that will play at a high level. Injury history is too great and he's out again.

 

[Zerotonine]

Demko is finished.

Hes no longer a goalie that will play at a high level. Injury history is too great and he's out again.

You mean like Arvidsson . Waste of 4 million that is. Be nice if they could trade him. Seems like the players current players route for to sign here ekholm on arviddson I'm sure and hyman on Campbell just been disasters .....

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

The forward pool is mediocre so is the D at this deadline. There isn't a Hyman or Ekholm tier add there unless you're getting somehow getting like Rantanen which will cost a small fortune both in assets and cost to resign.

We've wasted a shit ton of money on poor forward investments too. 4 million on Arvidsson. 3 million on Skinner. Almost 4 million to have Connor Brown this year. 5 million+ on Evander Kane. 3 million on Henrique.

Kane's injury woes are unfortunate but the bottom line is that's almost $20 million spent in forwards who frankly don't bring enough to the table and none of them are even locks to play in the top 6.

Poor management in a nutshell.

The price on Tuch is likely to be steep too, a 1st + O'Reilly perhaps, I don't see Buffalo being in a rush to trade him at all. He's on pace for 28 goals, our 1st isn't even a 2025 1st.

We have 1 top 6 winger and it's Zach Hyman. Time to pony up, trade our futures and get another one.

 

[Oilslick941611]

You mean like Arvidsson . Waste of 4 million that is. Be nice if they could trade him. Seems like the players current players route for to sign here ekholm on arviddson I'm sure and hyman on Campbell just been disasters .....

unrelated but sure....

 

[LTIR]

No way I trade for Risto, him and Nurse would be terrible together

Why are you so sure about that?
Risto will be our best RD and could easily work with Nurse as his partner

We have 1 top 6 winger and it's Zach Hyman. Time to pony up, trade our futures and get another one.

We have 1 top 4 Dman and no starting goalies by this standard.

Fix those before adding another Arvidsson.

 

[InTheBox]

Again, if we commit big money to Bouchard, we are totally screwed. He's a mental midget out there. And we should have acted sooner on the goalie situation. Now there is really no one out there. Veggie is the only guy I'd take a chance on. And I wouldn't give up a lot for him.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Brandon Saad: 2-1-3 in 5 GP, including the GWG last night to put Vegas ahead in the division race. AKA he’s been more impactful already than any of Bowman’s adds.

Meanwhile we still need a 1G, 4D, and top six winger. Stan better be the busiest he’s ever been in his whole damn life these next few days.

 

[Mez]

Brandon Saad: 2-1-3 in 5 GP, including the GWG last night to put Vegas ahead in the division race. AKA he’s been more impactful already than any of Bowman’s adds.

Meanwhile we still need a 1G, 4D, and top six winger. Stan better be the busiest he’s ever been in his whole damn life these next few days.

You can take a 5 game sample from most players in the league to pump them up.

 

[foshizzle]

We had something like a 25% turnover rate from the team that played game 7 of the finals. To me that’s to high and should have been around 15% but the offer sheets forced that. I’m just hoping that some of our veterans are just saving it for the playoffs.

I hate the fact the Jackson went after shiny new toys instead of taking care of his own business first. That’s why you needed an actual GM in place for July 1

 

[foshizzle]

How does Kane not bring enough? He is injured right now sure but when he has played he has far exceeded expectations aswell as his salary when healthy

No. He has only been good his first year. Thats all oilers fans seem to remember. He is also a tire fire defensively- he will get the J Skinner treatment from Knob

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

How does Kane not bring enough? He is injured right now sure but when he has played he has far exceeded expectations aswell as his salary when healthy

He's 33 hasn't played all year and hasn't looked good since he hurt his wrist

Hopefully he gives a shit about training and rehab because past behaviour would suggest there are some problems with his dedication to the game.

The best we can expect is a 3rd line player (which we are in abundance of)

 

[unicornBLOOD]

Vejmelka is the clear, realistic target for the Oilers imo. He's a pending UFA on a team who isn't a contender, who might be willing to move him. You get a chance to see him, and test him out, maybe he plays well enough for the Oilers to extend him, like the Avs did with Blackwood. I hope Bowman is working at it. My guess/prediction... they don't get a major addition in net. If they add anyone in net, i'm guessing it's closer to a 2B, than a 1B. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[LTIR]

To EDM: Crosby + EK @50% + Jarry @50%

To PIT: S.Skinner + Bouchard + Arvidsson

Reunite the 2 great players... yes I am talking about Skinner+VD