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Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II

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Jargon said:
If we can’t get rid of Karlsson, having him and Fabbro next year is at least a significant upgrade over the nonsense we have now. If Knyzhov can get back to where he was, it’s at least the beginning of a competent D.

Knyzhov - Karlsson
Ferraro - Fabbro
Vlasic - Simek
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Not sure about Fabbro in the top 4 and Benning out of the lineup for Simek. For one, Simek will inevitably be injured. Beyond that, Benning is just a far better player than Simek.
 
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Not sure about Fabbro in the top 4 and Benning out of the lineup for Simek. For one, Simek will inevitably be injured. Beyond that, Benning is just a far better player than Simek.
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I honestly forgot about Benning.

I'd like to see if Fabbro can regain some of his promise playing on our barebones D. But yes, Benning in, of course.
 
Le Rosbeef said:
Certainly a fascinating post, with concepts that I've not looked into deeply.

On reflection, I think you're also overcomplicating the macro-economic thinking too. Value is much more dynamic than the parameters you're setting here. The big picture is that Timo is the best available asset on the market right now, will improve any hockey team he goes to, and increase their chances of winning a cup.

Placing a value on that is arbitrary.

I accept Grier may not get as much as I'd like to see. But in the art of negotiation, since when has ever been asking for fair value gotten anything less than wanted?
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Yeah, definitely things change year to year, and it helps that Meier is the best asset out there. I just wanted to give a logically explanation for why I think expectations should be tempered. It’s fun to fantasize about Meier returning Nemec, but I’d rather shut it down now than watch everyone be horribly upset when the trade actually goes through.
 
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Juxtaposer said:
Yeah, definitely things change year to year, and it helps that Meier is the best asset out there. I just wanted to give a logically explanation for why I think expectations should be tempered. It’s fun to fantasize about Meier returning Nemec, but I’d rather shut it down now than watch everyone be horribly upset when the trade actually goes through.
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Cannot disagree with any of that, for sure.

With 140 pages on the main trade board, I think everyone is ready for a conclusion one way or another. So watch it go to March 1st ish...
 
STL Shark said:
Not sure about Fabbro in the top 4 and Benning out of the lineup for Simek. For one, Simek will inevitably be injured. Beyond that, Benning is just a far better player than Simek.
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I think Benning would still be in the top four and Fabbro on the 3rd pairing but it'd be competitive and it could flip. I'd still rather have Fabbro on the 3rd pairing than running any of Ferraro, MacDonald, Simek, or Vlasic on their off side.
 
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My prediction is that Meier won't be moved. I suspect that the Sharks brass isn't as committed to the total rebuild (compared to people here), so if Grier can't get the desired return I don't think he has too many issues with moving him in the offseason or even extending him.
 
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OrrNumber4 said:
My prediction is that Meier won't be moved. I suspect that the Sharks brass isn't as committed to the total rebuild (compared to people here), so if Grier can't get the desired return I don't think he has too many issues with moving him in the offseason or even extending him.
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Doubtful. TDL premiums are real and there are enough teams out there interested right now that he will get someone to pay the price that he's willing to accept. There is also the whole supply/demand stuff too. More supply of 1st line wingers in the offseason in hockey trades than there are at the TDL. Contenders aren't going to mess too much with the make up of their lineup right now whereas they might after a quick playoff exit that is bound to happen to at least one of the Eastern Conference heavyweights.
 
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Vegas just got rid of the Weber contract, meaning they can realistically sign Timo to an extension if they got him.

Does Vegas have anything worth trading for, though? I'm not sure I'm going to be able to watch Vegas games with Meier on their team if that happens, but a blue chip prospect might help the nausea. I don't know anything about their system other than that they seem to trade away all their prospects...
 
Jargon said:
Vegas just got rid of the Weber contract, meaning they can realistically sign Timo to an extension if they got him.

Does Vegas have anything worth trading for, though? I'm not sure I'm going to be able to watch Vegas games with Meier on their team if that happens, but a blue chip prospect might help the nausea. I don't know anything about their system other than that they seem to trade away all their prospects...
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Now they have Dysin Mayo. Woo!!
 
Jargon said:
Vegas just got rid of the Weber contract, meaning they can realistically sign Timo to an extension if they got him.

Does Vegas have anything worth trading for, though? I'm not sure I'm going to be able to watch Vegas games with Meier on their team if that happens, but a blue chip prospect might help the nausea. I don't know anything about their system other than that they seem to trade away all their prospects...
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They don't have the assets required to make a trade for Meier. If anything this makes them frontrunners for Patrick Kane, because that's the Vegas way of doing things.
 
Sharp move from Chicago. They get some draft picks for cap space they weren't going to use, and might even be able to flip Zaitsev at the deadline next season.
 
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Considering we have some of the worst defensive depth in the league I’m a little upset we couldn’t do this deal.
 
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I know there is lots of time but it kinda feels like the Sharks don’t end up making a substantial move before the deadline. Obviously just my own speculation
 
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Patty Ice said:
The only tolerable fanbase on HF whose team is rumored to be in on Meier is Carolina and they are all about being jerks 🤣🤣🤣
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I live in Charlotte. Canes were my east team even before the world magically set my destination here. I desire this.
 
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