Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part 1

[DG93]

This passive-aggressive douchebaggery really needs to stop. We get it. You think you're smarter than everyone else. I'm not sure what you're hoping to accomplish by systematically alienating everyone who you have to interact with on a daily basis.

Totally off-topic: your avatar is awesome lol. Oh, and this. ^

 

[Juxtaposer]

This passive-aggressive douchebaggery really needs to stop. We get it. You think you're smarter than everyone else. I'm not sure what you're hoping to accomplish by systematically alienating everyone who you have to interact with on a daily basis.

I think he has a humiliation kink.

 

[DG93]

I think he has a humiliation kink.

This is a family site!

 

[Hodge]

I think he has a humiliation kink.

Not sure I should be the one feeling humiliated when I was dumped on for saying that the Sharks shouldn’t qualify Dahlen because he is useless, they proceeded not to qualify him and he remains unsigned two weeks into free agency.

 

[Levie]

Not sure I should be the one feeling humiliated when I was dumped on for saying that the Sharks shouldn’t qualify Dahlen because he is useless, they proceeded not to qualify him and he remains unsigned two weeks into free agency.

You should be humiliated because every post you make contradicts a previous post that you made. "Yes Kunin is a great move because he's terrible and it will make the sharks worse and get a better draft pick" "You all are idiots for wanting Dahlen he's terrible and getting rid of him makes the Sharks better." I could go on and on for about 20 players where you have gave conflicting posts on. The only clear thing I've gathered from reading what you say is that you think you are smarter than everyone.

 

[CupfortheSharks]

I like Hodge posting. He has a different point of view. I don’t really agree with most of his posts but they make me think about some different things and it keeps this place interesting. You do you Hodge.

 

[sharski]

I think he has a humiliation kink.

I'm 12 and what is this

 

[Juxtaposer]

Not sure I should be the one feeling humiliated when I was dumped on for saying that the Sharks shouldn’t qualify Dahlen because he is useless, they proceeded not to qualify him and he remains unsigned two weeks into free agency.

That was obviously mostly a joke. What I mean is that it’s the only reason I can think of that you’re here. You don’t seem to respect any of the other posters or enjoy having open-minded discussions. You don’t like to joke around or speculate. You only seem interested in proving you’re the smartest, which is an silly pursuit on an online, anonymous message board, and being a dick to people you don’t agree with. What are you getting out of this, if not off on being roasted by mods?

 

[themelkman]

I like Hodge posting. He has a different point of view. I don’t really agree with most of his posts but they make me think about some different things and it keeps this place interesting. You do you Hodge.

Every theater needs the peanut gallery.

 

[TheBeard]

That was obviously mostly a joke. What I mean is that it’s the only reason I can think of that you’re here. You don’t seem to respect any of the other posters or enjoy having open-minded discussions. You don’t like to joke around or speculate. You only seem interested in proving you’re the smartest, which is an silly pursuit on an online, anonymous message board, and being a dick to people you don’t agree with. What are you getting out of this, if not off on being roasted by mods?

I think the fact that he’s the butt of the joke but doesn’t realize it makes his shtick even more entertaining.

 

[mogambomoroo]

I like Hodge posting. He has a different point of view. I don’t really agree with most of his posts but they make me think about some different things and it keeps this place interesting. You do you Hodge.

Gotta agree, I like Hodge way of bringing some edge. It's entertaining and it gives another perspective, with that said it's not for everyone. I understand some of the posters not liking it, because of usually no middle ground in that conversation.

We as forum posters are like NHL players in some way, there is the ones that bring a lot of good informative data that I see as the playmakers/finishers and play drivers, the usual optimistic guys are the energy guys. Mods are the coaches or team captains, basic posters are your middle 6 or two way defencemen. Post likers are the support players, that we need to keep it fun and be motivated to play. Posters with an edge to conversation are the power forwards and hard to play against players, because you still need to keep your head up. We are a big team.
PS. This was made as more of an humor post, I'm not trying to categorize posters in reality because everyone is equal to another.

 

[Kcoyote3]

I think intelligent antagonism is fun and stimulates conversation. I think purposeful and blind antagonism is dumb.

 

[Gecklund]

I think intelligent antagonism is fun and stimulates conversation. I think purposeful and blind antagonism is dumb.

Correct. At the same time too, I’m fully willing to have a conversation with someone about different views. That’s happened a few times on this forum and others here. Thing is you gotta be respectful

 

[Hodge]

You should be humiliated because every post you make contradicts a previous post that you made. "Yes Kunin is a great move because he's terrible and it will make the sharks worse and get a better draft pick" "You all are idiots for wanting Dahlen he's terrible and getting rid of him makes the Sharks better." I could go on and on for about 20 players where you have gave conflicting posts on. The only clear thing I've gathered from reading what you say is that you think you are smarter than everyone.

Kunin stinks but could be decent. There’s no risk in giving him a shot since the worst case scenario is he drags the team down a bit closer to a top five pick but there’s a chance he could establish himself as a physical 15-20 goal scorer which is a valuable piece.

Dahlen stinks and will always stink. There is no upside in keeping him because he is simply not a NHL player and at the age where that is unlikely to change going forward. Say what you will about Kunin but he has 250+ games of experience and has proven he belongs.

 

[Selachimorpha]

Kunin stinks but could be decent. There’s no risk in giving him a shot since the worst case scenario is he drags the team down a bit closer to a top five pick but there’s a chance he could establish himself as a physical 15-20 goal scorer which is a valuable piece.

Dahlen stinks and will always stink. There is no upside in keeping him because he is simply not a NHL player and at the age where that is unlikely to change going forward. Say what you will about Kunin but he has 250+ games of experience and has proven he belongs.

Huh?

 

[Hodge]

Huh?

What’s so difficult to understand about the point that there are bad NHL players who are still NHLers which means they’re better than career minor league types like Dahlen?

 

[LadyStanley]

Working on Off season list

 

[landshark]

Working on Off season list

Holy shit. It's been four weeks already?!?! Getting old is so weird. Edit: Oh, just three weeks.... still seems way longer to me.

 

[Alaskanice]

I think intelligent antagonism is fun and stimulates conversation. I think purposeful and blind antagonism is dumb.

This is the difference. Well put.

 

[STL Shark]

Right now we should have about 2.5 mil in cap space going into the season. Coincidentally thats what Ferraro should make.

Sheng reported Ferraro wants a long term deal but I dont see what universe he should get that in other than one where all we evalutate him on is how many minutes he played

He can have a long-term deal if he's good with signing for $3.5-4.0 million a year. Otherwise, he can bridge at $2 .5 million or so. Those are his two options.

The Sharks "rebuild" is hilarious to watch. Signing one after another failed players from other organizations to 2-2.5 million per year contracts instead of doing a real re-build and giving your own prospects a chance. The last kicker was Chmelevski.......so funny to watch.....

The guy who was not even going to be a top line guy in the AHL this year? Okay then Mr. Russian Flag avatar. The prospects have had chances for 3 years and they have almost all sucked. Hence why we're in the spot we're in.

 

[STL Shark]

What’s so difficult to understand about the point that there are bad NHL players who are still NHLers which means they’re better than career minor league types like Dahlen?

While there are NHLers better than Kunin and some of the guys that were signed, the guys that were signed are better than the kids that have stunk up the bottom 6 for the past 3 years. You can be better without really going all in to be good. That is basically the lane that Grier has chosen to be in.

This is a 2-3 year out mindset rather than a this season or next mindset. All about establishing how you want to play and getting the guys that are attainable to play that style. Hope is to hit on one or two of Kunin/Lindblom/etc. (both of whom have shown spurts at some points of their NHL careers and are still prime age) and maybe they're a part of the future. If they're not, then hopefully they at least mentored/competed with the kids and paved the way for the next wave of guys to play the way Grier/Quinn/Whoever wants to play going into Year 3 when you get Simek, Labanc, Kunin, Lindblom, Goalies x3, etc. off the books and only have 6 players signed (7 if Meier gets an extension).

From there, it's a blank canvas with oodles of cap space, development decisions on the bulk of our current prospects made, etc. for Grier to shift toward putting together a roster in the image he wants that is in compete mode. If he fails at doing that in Years 3-5, we find a new GM and try again, but nothing was going to be done to make us ultra competitive now and nothing he's done has done anything to affect the timing of the next window opening.

 

[SjMilhouse]

While there are NHLers better than Kunin and some of the guys that were signed, the guys that were signed are better than the kids that have stunk up the bottom 6 for the past 3 years. You can be better without really going all in to be good. That is basically the lane that Grier has chosen to be in.

This is a 2-3 year out mindset rather than a this season or next mindset. All about establishing how you want to play and getting the guys that are attainable to play that style. Hope is to hit on one or two of Kunin/Lindblom/etc. (both of whom have shown spurts at some points of their NHL careers and are still prime age) and maybe they're a part of the future. If they're not, then hopefully they at least mentored/competed with the kids and paved the way for the next wave of guys to play the way Grier/Quinn/Whoever wants to play going into Year 3 when you get Simek, Labanc, Kunin, Lindblom, Goalies x3, etc. off the books and only have 6 players signed (7 if Meier gets an extension).

From there, it's a blank canvas with oodles of cap space, development decisions on the bulk of our current prospects made, etc. for Grier to shift toward putting together a roster in the image he wants that is in compete mode. If he fails at doing that in Years 3-5, we find a new GM and try again, but nothing was going to be done to make us ultra competitive now and nothing he's done has done anything to affect the timing of the next window opening.

I mean Hodge annoys me as much as anyone but this has literally been his/her stance since MG took over. Not sure why everyone is so confused

 

[TheBigDrunkPanda]

So how long before Timo gets traded and to what team? I’m guessing the rangers since they are in win now mode

 

[OrrNumber4]

Not sure I should be the one feeling humiliated when I was dumped on for saying that the Sharks shouldn’t qualify Dahlen because he is useless, they proceeded not to qualify him and he remains unsigned two weeks into free agency.

Fair enough, but the only thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winner.

So how long before Timo gets traded and to what team? I’m guessing the rangers since they are in win now mode

It really feels like this could be the right move. I suppose if he has another great season his value would be higher (even more than Tkachuk's?).

 

[Levie]

I mean Hodge annoys me as much as anyone but this has literally been his/her stance since MG took over. Not sure why everyone is so confused

Because his stance is basically. Anything DW did is bad, anything MG did is good. There's no in between with him. That's why it's annoying.