GDT: 2022-23 season game 75 LA Kings vs Edmonton Oilers @6:00pm 3/30/23

[The Butcher]

Sorry guys. Getting a little too emotional about this. I honestly can't remember the last time I was this upset about a game. It's been a while.

It's not the most evil play I've seen in hockey but the fact that it didn't get called a major is a big problem.

That's it. Over it.

 

[Sol]

Sorry guys. Getting a little too emotional about this. I honestly can't remember the last time I was this upset about a game. It's been a while.

It's not the most evil play I've seen in hockey but the fact that it didn't get called a major is a big problem.

That's it. Over it.

It’s normal to be emotional about this game because I think it’s pretty clear that the oilers have become the Kings biggest rivals and the games between the teams are dirty. I don’t fault anyone for crossing lines over this match up.

This battle will continue for years because these teams will meet eachother in playoffs surely every year.

 

[Telos]

I mean, MacEwen still hasn't even done anything at this point which makes me question if he really is a deterrent of anything. Not sure if he is even healthy as he has been wearing a face shield pretty much all the time since he was traded over which begs the question of why he is in the lineup if he isn't going to fight. He literally doesn't have the skill to play for Ontario without being an enforcer.

The Kings definitely have an issue when playing physical teams as they are smallish and designed to be fast and skillful, but they can clearly be rattled and thrown off their game and rag-dolled around. They need more of a spine and throw their weight around a little more when playing against these teams and there has to be a response from their size and strength elements on the roster.

The Oilers are a team that tries to thrive on trying to get under the skin of their opponent. It is part of their survival as they cannot face most teams 5 on 5. They easily have the biggest culture of cheap plays, antagonizing antics, hacking and slashing after whistles, and trying to get away with small little shit and dives around the ice in order to draw penalties and rely on their special teams and McJesus to win the day. Of course, that is also their downfall and why they will fall short of Cup glory.

The problem is the Kings constantly fall into that trap and cycle and the officiating eats it up. The main way to win is going to be icing the healthiest lineup possible, not falling for their trap antics but if there is retaliation it is serious and effective, and trying to match up against them 5 on 5 as much as possible. This also means that the Kings really need to minimize their weaknesses. Durzi's minutes need to be reduced if he is out there and/or needs a really strong defensive partner. We really can't afford to have wasted roster space allocated to Edler, Walker, or MacEwen if he isn't going to fight.

 

[kingsfan28]

It wasn't the worst looking board of all time or anything but he did finish hard and that finish is what caused the injury.

If a hit is deemed boarding and the player being hit is obviously injured, I don't know how it isn't a major. Turcotte got a boarding major earlier this year for accidentally tripping a guy close to the boards. Pretty sure it was just a major and he wasn't thrown out...seems like they could have maybe done five but not a game misconduct on top of it?

The main thing here is that this is a playoff atmosphere game, their best player injures one of the Kings most important players (and a guy that their fan base has a weird revenge fetish with) less than two minutes into the game and the Kings do absolutely nothing about it. This team started to lose its way in this department in Lombardi's last year and have just failed miserably at it during Blake's tenure. I'm still waiting to see this "easy to add grit" grit that everyone keeps talking about...that easy shit that cost Tampa Bay multiple first round picks.

They have been reviewing hits like this all year. They can call a major, then look at it, then decide to go forward either 2 or 5 and a game. They just skipped that even though you could see he was injured. The 4 refs spent less than 10 seconds talking about this, I counted. They spent more time discussing offsides than this.

 

[kingsholygrail]

add toothpicks pushed into the grass underneath, then the action really starts. not that i know of anything like that.



the thing is, guys don't have to bleed to be injured. he clearly was, you could see he had no idea where he was when he got up.

I don't disagree. But refs look for only two things for injury, blood and a stretcher.

 

[tny760]

Am I the only one that didn’t think the hit was that bad? It was boarding for sure but it wasn’t one of the flagrant ones where someone is cross checked or pushed with arms extended. I think 2 minutes was the right call, and it’s more than a little funny that the Kings are so impotent that they can’t do anything to answer big bad #97.

my beef is moreso that it's ref discretion for the major and it's simply that 99 times out of 100, a board causing an injury gets a major and the automatic game mis. i think ref discretion here was tainted by "we can't kick connor mcdavid out of a home game 1 minute in"

to me it's the totality of the things they saw: a straight up board through the numbers, an injured player that goes straight down the tunnel, they conferred.. what discussion is there? that's a major.

i could wax poetic about how they should've shook it off and punished them on the scoreboard but skinner was nuts and it's f***in hard to push back. especially when your coach benches your literal ONLY (theoretical) deterrent after 1 shift in the 2nd period for the rest of the game. nurse is out there gloved punching guys and the only guy who might do that back is f***in stapled to the bench? it all goes back to blake and todd in the end

They have been reviewing hits like this all year. They can call a major, then look at it, then decide to go forward either 2 or 5 and a game. They just skipped that even though you could see he was injured. The 4 refs spent less than 10 seconds talking about this, I counted. They spent more time discussing offsides than this.

f***in A. what was the video review the other day? an offsides right? literally like 5 minutes?

that's more important?

 

[kingsfan28]

I don't disagree. But refs look for only two things for injury, blood and a stretcher.

I guess all the birdies circling his head when he got up doesn't count as an injury. So you can cause a head injury, yet its not an injury unless it's bleeding all over the ice. Go it. F-ing NHL blood rule!

 

[head eyes]

One part of the problem with MacEwan isn't really his own problem, but it's TM's usage (or lackof) whenever the Kings go down by even one goal.

This is what TM does during the playoffs as well and it will wear down the other three lines to the point of them being exhausted as the game and the series goes along.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

They have been reviewing hits like this all year. They can call a major, then look at it, then decide to go forward either 2 or 5 and a game. They just skipped that even though you could see he was injured. The 4 refs spent less than 10 seconds talking about this, I counted. They spent more time discussing offsides than this.

Good point. Forgot they could've reviewed and downgraded if they deemed it necessary. Not even a review on a concussed player is just shameful.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

The entire organizational strategy of the Edmonton Oilers from equipment manager to chief financial officer to hot dog stand vendor is to play Connor Mcdavid for 62 minutes a night and hope he outscores the other team.

If McLellan and Rob “4D” Blake can’t effectively gameplan against that, this team deserves to lose.

 

[bland]

I think it's bad considering the amount of distance he traveled where he was able to see numbers the whole time. There is definitely worse out there, but with Anderson being out the rest of the game, and Bjornfot being called up, it did enough damage which is all that matters.

I agree the lack of response is just impotence.

They came out just like Game 7 of the last series - overly determined to not get caught up in the emotion of a big game and to wait out the initial home push of the Oilers. The Kings are not a physically aggressive team, but the lack of response to that hit sure seemed like a deliberate attempt to avoid getting emotionally involved.

It cost them the series and it might cost them home ice this year. I doubt that is a coaching decision, that sure felt like a leadership group choice because even Doughty seemed like he hit the Zoloft pretty hard pregame.

 

[BigKing]

Sorry guys. Getting a little too emotional about this. I honestly can't remember the last time I was this upset about a game. It's been a while.

It's not the most evil play I've seen in hockey but the fact that it didn't get called a major is a big problem.

That's it. Over it.

It's cool. I'm way less passionate about this stuff than I used to be but I started drinking last night because I was pissed and wound up ordering donuts on Postmates at like 12:30 in the morning. Just let myself go because it put me in a total mood.

Actually thought about not renewing my seats. I'm getting very close to having another non-response incident being the straw that breaks the camel's back for me when it comes to spending money on this team.

 

[BigKing]

They came out just like Game 7 of the last series - overly determined to not get caught up in the emotion of a big game and to wait out the initial home push of the Oilers. The Kings are not a physically aggressive team, but the lack of response to that hit sure seemed like a deliberate attempt to avoid getting emotionally involved.

It cost them the series and it might cost them home ice this year. I doubt that is a coaching decision, that sure felt like a leadership group choice because even Doughty seemed like he hit the Zoloft pretty hard pregame.

Fighting isn't what determines toughness and I'm not saying I want these guys fighting all of the time or anything but it is pretty wild that Kopitar and Doughty each have one fighting major to their credit across like 2,000 NHL games.

Those Cup teams had offensive contributors that wouldn't take shit in Richards and Williams, never mind your Stoll/Mitchell/Greene types. This isn't a 4th line fighter issue but just a collective team mindset.

Roy, Bjornfot and Anderson have all been boarded and concussed with the Kings doing absolutely nothing each time. Hell, they traded for the guy that boarded Roy instead of seeking retribution.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Fighting isn't what determines toughness and I'm not saying I want these guys fighting all of the time or anything but it is pretty wild that Kopitar and Doughty each have one fighting major to their credit across like 2,000 NHL games.

I wouldnt be surprised if they burn these at home: https://goop.com/heretic-this-smells-like-my-vagina-candle/p/

 

[Sol]

The entire organizational strategy of the Edmonton Oilers from equipment manager to chief financial officer to hot dog stand vendor is to play Connor Mcdavid for 62 minutes a night and hope he outscores the other team.

If McLellan and Rob “4D” Blake can’t effectively gameplan against that, this team deserves to lose.

And I never advocate for injuring a player, there’s times I say stupid things about stuff like that but I don’t truly mean it.

However… he is ONE guy.. if you can’t run him and bang him up, then you deserve to lose. Kings can guarantee a victory by hitting McDavid so hard that his body hurts to move during the series.

I think this is where the Kings fail. McDavid is the Oilers. Hurting him and running him guarantees the series.

The only thing that matters about the playoffs is who’s left standing. Kings will win 100 percent if they put McDavid in pain. I don’t care if it’s after the whistle or before the whistle or whenever. Run him and you win. Simple as that. Who cares if you get a penalty if McDavid is ineffective.

Make his body black and blue. And you win. Throw late hits, throw big hits. You might lose the game but you will absolutely win the series.

Again don’t injure him maliciously. Just bruise him up badly. They destroyed a few players shoulders last playoffs. Three kings had messed up shoulders from that series from big hits.

Get it done.

 

[Schrute farms]

Where are the cheerleaders and TM fan club at to make me feel better about this team right now? Please tell me TM has this all under control and knows what he is doing. I need some positivity after these last 8 periods. I'm serious about that -- because right now very concerned we're headed for a quick exit. Hopefully just a minor speed bump.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

They came out just like Game 7 of the last series - overly determined to not get caught up in the emotion of a big game and to wait out the initial home push of the Oilers. The Kings are not a physically aggressive team, but the lack of response to that hit sure seemed like a deliberate attempt to avoid getting emotionally involved.

It cost them the series and it might cost them home ice this year. I doubt that is a coaching decision, that sure felt like a leadership group choice because even Doughty seemed like he hit the Zoloft pretty hard pregame.

It’s a holdover from the Sutter years. The difference being that team had a veteran core with ice in its veins who never got rattled about anything. They were always in every game and executing how they wanted to execute. It’s why they’re one of a half dozen teams in the history of the league to come back from 0-3. They didn’t worry about getting pushed around because everyone knew they couldn’t be pushed around.

It’s the complete opposite approach a young up and coming team should be taking. Go watch the 2010 Kings and see how much that team stuck up for each other. It was an important building block.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Am I the only one that didn’t think the hit was that bad? It was boarding for sure but it wasn’t one of the flagrant ones where someone is cross checked or pushed with arms extended. I think 2 minutes was the right call, and it’s more than a little funny that the Kings are so impotent that they can’t do anything to answer big bad #97.

In a vacuum I could see it go either way. But he saw numbers for 20 feet and still finished high and hard, and he knew who he was looking at.

In a world in which we just had a bunch of majors reviewed and reversed, that they didn't even give this a 15 second look is gross.

Then you add the context and history and it's just malpractice.

You think if Mikey Anderson knocked McDavid out of the game in any way he's not getting an auto-major?

That was nutless TJ Luxmore rendered unable to do his job because of the game situation and player involved.

 

[bland]

Fighting isn't what determines toughness and I'm not saying I want these guys fighting all of the time or anything but it is pretty wild that Kopitar and Doughty each have one fighting major to their credit across like 2,000 NHL games.

Those Cup teams had offensive contributors that wouldn't take shit in Richards and Williams, never mind your Stoll/Mitchell/Greene types. This isn't a 4th line fighter issue but just a collective team mindset.

Roy, Bjornfot and Anderson have all been boarded and concussed with the Kings doing absolutely nothing each time. Hell, they traded for the guy that boarded Roy instead of seeking retribution.

To me, the biggest issue last night was a willingness to let the Oilers establish the tone of the game early instead of trying to set it themselves.

This team has a good mix of hot heads, guys willing to take any hit to move the puck three feet and veterans who have seen literally everything before. I think they thought that they could contain themselves emotionally, ride it out early then set the tone once the heat died down. It didn't work out that way - the best they ever achieved was a level playing ground that was negated by some outstanding goaltending and another Doozi goof up. It was a very close game, but the Kings couldn't establish their style as the prevailing tone of the night. And that's how you win series - breaking the oppositions will and forcing them to engage on your terms where you have high ground. Keep it level and McDavid will find a way to get on the score sheet.

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

I said some Oiler fans feel that way. I did not say I was one of them. I will show myself out if that is how you feel. Hopefully I didn't offend anyone.

I say let him stay here and say whatever he wants. Just let us go to the Edmonton or main board and do the same. These boards are run like Canada lol. People can’t fight it’s all a bullshit fake cumbaya experience where people silently hate each other instead of being honest.

Sorry guys. Getting a little too emotional about this. I honestly can't remember the last time I was this upset about a game. It's been a while.

It's not the most evil play I've seen in hockey but the fact that it didn't get called a major is a big problem.

That's it. Over it.

I think you’re like most of us. We can accept the fact that the league is going to let Connor and Sid be pretend tough guys then act like they got murdered when they get hit.

It’s the fact that our players let him do it to one of their teammates without even a clean hit or after whistle f*** around and find out response.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

And I never advocate for injuring a player, there’s times I say stupid things about stuff like that but I don’t truly mean it.

However… he is ONE guy.. if you can’t run him and bang him up, then you deserve to lose. Kings can guarantee a victory by hitting McDavid so hard that his body hurts to move during the series.

I think this is where the Kings fail. McDavid is the Oilers. Hurting him and running him guarantees the series.

The only thing that matters about the playoffs is who’s left standing. Kings will win 100 percent if they put McDavid in pain. I don’t care if it’s after the whistle or before the whistle or whenever. Run him and you win. Simple as that. Who cares if you get a penalty if McDavid is ineffective.

Make his body black and blue. And you win. Throw late hits, throw big hits. You might lose the game but you will absolutely win the series.

Again don’t injure him maliciously. Just bruise him up badly. They destroyed a few players shoulders last playoffs. Three kings had messed up shoulders from that series from big hits.

Get it done.

At least make things miserable for him like how the Flyers used to do with Crosby 10 years ago. Giroux and Voracek were in his face every single he was on the ice. What are the Kings scared of poking the bear? McDavid scores on them almost every game anyways. See if you can get him off his game and get him to take more dumb penalties. Try something instead of just letting him skate through the entire team every game.

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

In a vacuum I could see it go either way. But he saw numbers for 20 feet and still finished high and hard, and he knew who he was looking at.

In a world in which we just had a bunch of majors reviewed and reversed, that they didn't even give this a 15 second look is gross.

Then you add the context and history and it's just malpractice.

You think if Mikey Anderson knocked McDavid out of the game in any way he's not getting an auto-major?

That was nutless TJ Luxmore rendered unable to do his job because of the game situation and player involved.

Well stated

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Where are the cheerleaders and TM fan club at to make me feel better about this team right now? Please tell me TM has this all under control and knows what he is doing. I need some positivity after these last 8 periods. I'm serious about that -- because right now very concerned we're headed for a quick exit. Hopefully just a minor speed bump.

Meh, both games, EDM and CGY, LA played well.....but ran up against extremely hot goaltenders.....and EDM barely beat a team missing it's shut down Dman, and two top offensive players....I mean EDM played well as well, it was a good game.....but since this is the internet, and we base things off of one game, then yea, LA sucks and will lose a 7 game series to Anaheim at this point

At least make things miserable for him like how the Flyers used to do with Crosby 10 years ago. Giroux and Voracek were in his face every single he was on the ice. What are the Kings scared of poking the bear? McDavid scores on them almost every game anyways. See if you can get him off his game and get him to take more dumb penalties. Try something instead of just letting him skate through the entire team every game.

Different game than 10 years ago though

 

[Little Psycho]

serious question: where do you get the carne asada fries from at cypto?

 

[Sol]

There's a lot of miserable oilers fan on our boards huh? Lol. Cute.

Nevertheless,

Run McDavid = Win.

Not anymore complicated than that.

serious question: where do you get the carne asada fries from at cypto?

they're not that good tbh