Speculation: 2022-23 Roster Thread

[JonathnTaylorTavares]

UFAs

Guess I could have looked that up myself, but thanks!

 

[Gliff]

Bailey is due 7M in cash over two years, sorry for the confusion.

That makes it realistic for a team like Anaheim, but I still don't think the Ducks help other teams with their cap situation out of the goodness of their heart.

What would you pay for the Ducks to take his full cap?

 

[bsu]

Who the hell thinks McTavish is a Ritchie clone? Is there seriously a person that is saying that I haven't seen that one.

 

[Sean Garrity]

Who the hell thinks McTavish is a Ritchie clone? Is there seriously a person that is saying that I haven't seen that one.

I think the OP is just speaking generally to those who are comparing them because of their draft pedigree, not being flashy, and "bullying" their way through juniors because they were bigger and stronger with a great shot.

 

[Duck Off]

A really interesting thing I heard on 32 thoughts was marek saying that those in the Anaheim franchise view McTavish as the future 1C and zegras the 2C. I think that's very interesting.

Yeah I found that interesting too. Though it felt more like his opinion than news to me. I could be wrong.

 

[Kalv]

you really would have to compare their playing abilites a year or two down the line.

I'm not comparing their playstyles, but I think McTavish would be the player you put in all situations - like a Kesler. Zegras is the one you give more offensive opportunities. I still don't see Zegras excelling in the defensive side of the game. I certainly wouldn't want him out there defending a one goal lead.

Zegras wants to win. He is focusing on the offensive side, but I'm sure he is very capable of defending if he wants to. Well, he is now very small, so he could be pushed around so I agree that iwe talk Now now, then probably yeah . But he will get stronger.

Bailey is due 7M in cash over two years, sorry for the confusion.

That;s not too bad, but yeah, for forwards we are really not that desperate. He COULD be an option, but our blueline has some upgrades needed for sure.

 

[Arthuros]

Sorry, I havent really been paying too much attention but what happened to ZAR and Simon? Were they ever really on our team or did I imagine that?

All I can confirm is that they were indeed hockey players, in the sense that they play hockey.

IMO Simon goes back to Europe, ZAR signs somewhere for cheap.

 

[SmokeyDuck]

Hey everybody, NYI fan here. Just based off of what I can see ANA is short a forward or two and are still under the cap floor. NYI has an excess of top nine forwards and are up against the cap (when factoring in certain RFA extensions)

Would ANA be interested in acquiring any of NYI’s expedable forwards?

List:
Josh Bailey, two years at 5M per (7M in actual cash however)
Anthony Beauvillier, two years at 4.15M per (cash is same as cap hit)
Kieffer Bellows, currently a RFA
Ross Johnston, four years at 1.1M per (cash is same as cap hit)
Richard Panik, one year at 1.375M per.

Would be interested in Johnston and Mayfield though you didn't list him.

 

[bsu]

I'd like to see Benoit & Drysdale paired together on the 3rd pairing for a little bit to see how they look together for an extended period.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I'd like to see Benoit & Drysdale paired together on the 3rd pairing for a little bit to see how they look together for an extended period.

That could be our 2nd pairing. I'd like to limit Shatty's ice time so he can be more effective.

Fowler - xxx​

Benoit - Drysdale​

Vaaks-Shatty​

Mahura​

I remember reading something on the Athletic that Vaaks was bad with Drysdale and less bad with Shatty.

As for that spot next to Fowler, that might be available for either Helleson or Anderson since finding an extra D-man isn't a priority.

 

[DavidBL]

That could be our 2nd pairing. I'd like to limit Shatty's ice time so he can be more effective.

Fowler - xxx​

Benoit - Drysdale​

Vaaks-Shatty​

Mahura​

I remember reading something on the Athletic that Vaaks was bad with Drysdale and less bad with Shatty.

As for that spot next to Fowler, that might be available for either Helleson or Anderson since finding an extra D-man isn't a priority.

Probably had more to do with how vaaks was used with either partner.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Probably had more to do with how vaaks was used with either partner.

I'd like to think it's Shatty's presence/experience that made Vaaks play better.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

I think the OP is just speaking generally to those who are comparing them because of their draft pedigree, not being flashy, and "bullying" their way through juniors because they were bigger and stronger with a great shot.

That's kind of the thing with McTavish - he didn't show well at all in his NHL and Olympic stints, he was somewhere between generic and forgettable. That's a huge contrast to his junior performances, which are obviously dominant. That sort of disparity usually suggests a player who succeeds in juniors because of a physical advantage.

But then, there's his overseas performance, which was good enough to have him shooting up the draft rankings late, although nobody here saw those games. Plenty of (most?) pundits/scouts treat him as if he's an A+ prospect. And we have hearsay that the Ducks see him as a better (ie higher on the depth chart) center option than Zegras.

So I get why people are treating McTavish as less than blue chip, or at least not ready for full time NHL duty. He has some of the traditional red flags and I'm not super high on him myself tbh. But if you're going to do that you have to reconcile the professional near-consensus that dismisses those flags, and I can't really. Not without ignoring the scouts etc. completely.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

It sure would make me feel better about cheering for the guy, if MC was able to make a similar statement.

Arnt steel and comtois 2 of the very few
players that have commented about it?

 

[Sean Garrity]

That's kind of the thing with McTavish - he didn't show well at all in his NHL and Olympic stints, he was somewhere between generic and forgettable. That's a huge contrast to his junior performances, which are obviously dominant. That sort of disparity usually suggests a player who succeeds in juniors because of a physical advantage.

But then, there's his overseas performance, which was good enough to have him shooting up the draft rankings late, although nobody here saw those games. Plenty of (most?) pundits/scouts treat him as if he's an A+ prospect. And we have hearsay that the Ducks see him as a better (ie higher on the depth chart) center option than Zegras.

So I get why people are treating McTavish as less than blue chip, or at least not ready for full time NHL duty. He has some of the traditional red flags and I'm not super high on him myself tbh. But if you're going to do that you have to reconcile the professional near-consensus that dismisses those flags, and I can't really. Not without ignoring the scouts etc. completely.

Can't significantly disagree with anything you said. I would point out that, outside of the Olympics, he's produced very well at every level. Other posters have seen him far more than I have outside of the NHL, but the scouting report seems to still be that he can be invisible so to speak, but then change the game at any moment. I'd like to see him improve his physicality and defense so that way even if he's invisible offensively, he's still contributing to his line while always being one touch away from scoring a goal which is an ability he has shown.

 

[bsu]

Another one comes out

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Another one comes out

At this point... you might as well admit to it if you were a part of it.

 

[Rybread86]

At this point... you might as well admit to it if you were a part of it.

Cop to it and pray for leniency

 

[Deuce22]

These "I know nothing" statements are meaningless. What else would you expect them to say?

 

[Static]

These "I know nothing" statements are meaningless. What else would you expect them to say?

Those involved are more than likely being advised to stay silent. With the Canadian government involved it's only a matter of time until the players involved are known and lying publicly about it is the last thing a lawyer would want.

 

[bsu]

These "I know nothing" statements are meaningless. What else would you expect them to say?

I mean you would look like an even bigger douche......

 

[Bender66]

That's kind of the thing with McTavish - he didn't show well at all in his NHL and Olympic stints, he was somewhere between generic and forgettable. That's a huge contrast to his junior performances, which are obviously dominant. That sort of disparity usually suggests a player who succeeds in juniors because of a physical advantage.

But then, there's his overseas performance, which was good enough to have him shooting up the draft rankings late, although nobody here saw those games. Plenty of (most?) pundits/scouts treat him as if he's an A+ prospect. And we have hearsay that the Ducks see him as a better (ie higher on the depth chart) center option than Zegras.

So I get why people are treating McTavish as less than blue chip, or at least not ready for full time NHL duty. He has some of the traditional red flags and I'm not super high on him myself tbh. But if you're going to do that you have to reconcile the professional near-consensus that dismisses those flags, and I can't really. Not without ignoring the scouts etc. completely.

This is my biggest fear, that this is Nick Ritchie 2.0 all over again. Dominate small kids at junior levels so he puts up big numbers. Granted, in his small sample size in NHL, he has not looked as dumb (in a hockey IQ sense) as Ritchie, but that is the fear

 

[ShadowDuck]

Has the incident been revealed? Or is it just known to be some kind of sexual assault?

 

[bsu]

This is my biggest fear, that this is Nick Ritchie 2.0 all over again. Dominate small kids at junior levels so he puts up big numbers. Granted, in his small sample size in NHL, he has not looked as dumb (in a hockey IQ sense) as Ritchie, but that is the fear

I don't see the comparison at all between the two unless by Nick Ritchie 2.0 you mean disappointing for where he was drafted... Which is fair.

 

[Deuce22]

Those involved are more than likely being advised to stay silent. With the Canadian government involved it's only a matter of time until the players involved are known and lying publicly about it is the last thing a lawyer would want.

It just seems silly that the internet detectives are automatically eliminating from suspicion anyone who has put out a statement. Like no one who has committed a crime has ever lied about it.