Speculation: 2022-23 Roster Thread

[Hockey Duckie]

His decline seemed to pretty much line right up with what we were told later about his health, that he was basically playing in need of surgery for two seasons. Since then he's battled through the blood clot issue and whatever else. It would be nice to see him fully healthy for a long enough stretch to perhaps start to rebound a bit.

I also think he was the reason for Lundy's hot, hot start. That's a great mentorship duo there. Both Swedes who love playing defense and have some offensive abilities. Silf always had that snipe and confident in it. Lundy was still middling before last year.

Silverberg
2021-22	Games	G	A	Pts	PPG		Plus/Minus
Total	53​	5​	16​	21​	0.40​		-3​
Before COVID infection	9​	1​	7​	8​	0.89​		6​
After COVID infection	44​	4​	9​	13​	0.30​		-9​

That's a significant difference in production. Silf missed about two weeks due to COVID.

Lundy
2021-22	Games	G	A	Pts	PPG		Plus/Minus
Total	80​	16​	13​	29​	0.36​		-3​
Before Silf COVID	9​	1​	6​	7​	0.78​		5​
From 10/31 to 11/11 (No Silf)	6​	2​	1​	3​	0.50​		2​
From 11/11 to 3/6 (with Silf)	43​	10​	5​	15​	0.35​		-11​
From 3/12 to 4/29 (no Silf)	22​	3​	1​	4​	0.18​		1​

Yikes... a non-healthy Silf brought Lundy down a lot defensively! But when Silf is healthy, then look at both of their offensive productions. Sure it's a small sample, but what a great small sample from both offensively and defensively (see their plus/minus ratings).

I do hope Silf can stay healthy going into this season b/c his last three years are just bunk for him. He played through injury for two seasons, then got COVID last year, and finally discovered he had a blood clot issues on top of that. That's some serious bad luck.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Ducks D is going to be stacked in like 2-3 years with Drysdale, Minty, and Zellweger leading the way. So excited. We just need some veteran stop gaps to bridge that time from now. Don’t want players like Drysdale having less than ideal partners. Verbeek went out and got two ideal forwards for Z and Terry. I hope he plans to do the same for Drysdale and even Fowler.

Providing we keep all of our NCAA guys, I'm so loving the collection we have today!

OFDs

RD Drysdale​

LD/ RD Zellweger​

LD Minty (2022)​

DFDs

RD Helleson (Verbeek TDL acquisition)​

LD Hinds​

RD Warren (2022)​

Two-way

RD Andersson​

LD/RD LaCombe​

LD Thrun​

RD Moore​

RD Luneau (2022)​

Potential group coming over next season, 2023-24, to the pro side: LaCombe, Thrun, Zellweger, Hinds, and Minty. They're going to dominate the AHL! LaCombe and Thrun have been developing for four years at college, which means they're overripe and may only need half a season in the AHL. After seeing LaCombe's skating drill, he might be the biggest surprise of our defensive group.

I have a fear that we won't sign any defensemen, but rather fill out the rest of the forward roster. We're probably going to rotate between Mahura, Benoit, and Helleson. We're just waiting on our youth talent to make their way to the the pro side. Pay Terry, Zegras, Drysdale, and Lundy within the next two seasons and cheap rookies on the blue line.

 

[bsu]

So what's going on with John Moore lol

 

[WhatTheDuck]

It sure would make me feel better about cheering for the guy, if MC was able to make a similar statement.

 

[Kalv]

It sure would make me feel better about cheering for the guy, if MC was able to make a similar statement.

Yeah. Generally, he nor Steel strike as characters who would get involved in something like this. On the other hand, if they are so ''clean'' here, why not come out and say something like Timmins? With 6 off the list, that leaves 14 players on that team.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Yeah. Generally, he nor Steel strike as characters who would get involved in something like this. On the other hand, if they are so ''clean'' here, why not come out and say something like Timmins? With 6 off the list, that leaves 14 players on that team.

If the six are to be believed, that means over half the 14 remaining (8) are guilty. The odds are not looking good at this point.

 

[Arthuros]

It sure would make me feel better about cheering for the guy, if MC was able to make a similar statement.

I don't disagree with what you said, but probably a good reminder that based on what we know so far, silence isn't proof of guilt or innocence yet.

If the list of culprits eventually gets whittled down to a list of 8 that includes Comtois and Steel, happy to bring out the pitchforks, but we'll have to wait and see. Hope this re-opened investigation sheds a bit more light on the matter.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I don't disagree with what you said, but probably a good reminder that based on what we know so far, silence isn't proof of guilt or innocence yet.

If the list of culprits eventually gets whittled down to a list of 8 that includes Comtois and Steel, happy to bring out the pitchforks, but we'll have to wait and see. Hope this re-opened investigation sheds a bit more light on the matter.

Yeah I'm keeping the pitchfork tucked away for now, and I understand that silence doesn't indicate guilt. It's looking worse instead of better for these two at this point though. I really hope they weren't involved

 

[All Mighty]

If the six are to be believed, that means over half the 14 remaining (8) are guilty. The odds are not looking good at this point.

I believe I saw that not all of the culprits were on the WJC team, but there was at least 1 that was. The rest were other junior players.

 

[Kalv]

I believe I saw that not all of the culprits were on the WJC team, but there was at least 1 that was. The rest were other junior players.

THat Gala event seemed to involve a lot of members from Hockey Canada. Lot of people there were present.

2018 Hockey Canada Foundation Gala & Golf Coming to London

www.ohf.on.ca

 

[Static]

A really interesting thing I heard on 32 thoughts was marek saying that those in the Anaheim franchise view McTavish as the future 1C and zegras the 2C. I think that's very interesting.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

A really interesting thing I heard on 32 thoughts was marek saying that those in the Anaheim franchise view McTavish as the future 1C and zegras the 2C. I think that's very interesting.

If they place importance on draft position then that would make sense.

 

[Kalv]

A really interesting thing I heard on 32 thoughts was marek saying that those in the Anaheim franchise view McTavish as the future 1C and zegras the 2C. I think that's very interesting.

That would be... odd

 

[seafoam]

Hey everybody, NYI fan here. Just based off of what I can see ANA is short a forward or two and are still under the cap floor. NYI has an excess of top nine forwards and are up against the cap (when factoring in certain RFA extensions)

Would ANA be interested in acquiring any of NYI’s expedable forwards?

List:
Josh Bailey, two years at 5M per (7M in actual cash however)
Anthony Beauvillier, two years at 4.15M per (cash is same as cap hit)
Kieffer Bellows, currently a RFA
Ross Johnston, four years at 1.1M per (cash is same as cap hit)
Richard Panik, one year at 1.375M per.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Hey everybody, NYI fan here. Just based off of what I can see ANA is short a forward or two and are still under the cap floor. NYI has an excess of top nine forwards and are up against the cap (when factoring in certain RFA extensions)

Would ANA be interested in acquiring any of NYI’s expedable forwards?

List:
Josh Bailey, two years at 5M per (7M in actual cash however)
Anthony Beauvillier, two years at 4.15M per (cash is same as cap hit)
Kieffer Bellows, currently a RFA
Ross Johnston, four years at 1.1M per (cash is same as cap hit)
Richard Panik, one year at 1.375M per.

Can any of them become a Dman ? If you can offer us a bottom pairing Dman and a slice of NY pizza we'll send some San Diego fish tacos and Anaheim Tamales along with some sort of draft pick.

 

[Static]

That would be... odd

Maybe, but they might just like his matchup potential more than zegras because Trevor is all offense at this point.

 

[Gliff]

Hey everybody, NYI fan here. Just based off of what I can see ANA is short a forward or two and are still under the cap floor. NYI has an excess of top nine forwards and are up against the cap (when factoring in certain RFA extensions)

Would ANA be interested in acquiring any of NYI’s expedable forwards?

List:
Josh Bailey, two years at 5M per (7M in actual cash however)
Anthony Beauvillier, two years at 4.15M per (cash is same as cap hit)
Kieffer Bellows, currently a RFA
Ross Johnston, four years at 1.1M per (cash is same as cap hit)
Richard Panik, one year at 1.375M per.

The Ducks have enough forwards, especially middle 6 forwards.
If the Ducks are acquiring any forwards other then young top 6 forwards then they better be getting paid for it.

None of those guys really fall into that category.
So what would you be willing to pay the Ducks to take Bailey. 14 mil in cash over 2 years.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

That would be... odd

you really would have to compare their playing abilites a year or two down the line.

I'm not comparing their playstyles, but I think McTavish would be the player you put in all situations - like a Kesler. Zegras is the one you give more offensive opportunities. I still don't see Zegras excelling in the defensive side of the game. I certainly wouldn't want him out there defending a one goal lead.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Maybe, but they might just like his matchup potential more than zegras because Trevor is all offense at this point.

I did wonder if that was just Marek, who follows the CHL quite a bit, projecting some of his own thoughts there, but I have noticed that much of the hockey world seems to rate McTavish a lot higher than here. The sense I got was that a lot of people thought he was the best player in the entire CHL and at the end of last year maybe the best prospect outside the NHL. If the team really does view him as the better bet in the future its probably less about how they see Zegras and more about how they see McTavish.

 

[seafoam]

The Ducks have enough forwards, especially middle 6 forwards.
If the Ducks are acquiring any forwards other then young top 6 forwards then they better be getting paid for it.

None of those guys really fall into that category.
So what would you be willing to pay the Ducks to take Bailey. 14 mil in cash over 2 years.

Bailey is due 7M in cash over two years, sorry for the confusion.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

If they place importance on draft position then that would make sense.

Or... they think McTavish is or will be the more complete center.

I hope we have a 1a/1b centers on our hands. Then we got our own thunder & lightning. Z is the flash and McTavish makes you feel the impact on the ice. Also, it means we're going to be dynamic for over a decade if they're both first line center talents!

 

[JonathnTaylorTavares]

Sorry, I havent really been paying too much attention but what happened to ZAR and Simon? Were they ever really on our team or did I imagine that?

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I did wonder if that was just Marek, who follows the CHL quite a bit, projecting some of his own thoughts there, but I have noticed that much of the hockey world seems to rate McTavish a lot higher than here. The sense I got was that a lot of people thought he was the best player in the entire CHL and at the end of last year maybe the best prospect outside the NHL. If the team really does view him as the better bet in the future its probably less about how they see Zegras and more about how they see McTavish.

That's because there's a "we picked McTavish over (insert other prospects)" stigma still present. Some of our fans believe McTavish has to prove himself daily and still needs to prove himself b/c they don't believe McTavish actually has that kind of high end talent. Some probably still think he's a Ritchie clone.

It's a year later from his 9-game NHL stint and the majority on this board believes we still have to ease in McTavish into the NHL by putting him on wing, not at center. Yet, Sillinger played center last year for Columbus. The Kraken's Beniers played center to close out the season and is projected to be a 1C. Seattle is in the same boat as we are such that we're in rebuild mode. Both Sillinger and Beniers are in the same draft class as McTavish. Are we saying McTavish isn't as talented as Sillinger or Beniers? Yes... yes, our board doesn't believe McTavish is as talented as Sillinger or Beniers for McTavish to start at center going into next season.

 

[MMC]

Sorry, I havent really been paying too much attention but what happened to ZAR and Simon? Were they ever really on our team or did I imagine that?

UFAs

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

That's because there's a "we picked McTavish over (insert other prospects)" stigma still present. Some of our fans believe McTavish has to prove himself daily and still needs to prove himself b/c they don't believe McTavish actually has that kind of high end talent. Some probably still think he's a Ritchie clone.

It's a year later from his 9-game NHL stint and the majority on this board believes we still have to ease in McTavish into the NHL by putting him on wing, not at center. Yet, Sillinger played center last year for Columbus. The Kraken's Beniers played center to close out the season and is projected to be a 1C. Seattle is in the same boat as we are such that we're in rebuild mode. Both Sillinger and Beniers are in the same draft class as McTavish. Are we saying McTavish isn't as talented as Sillinger or Beniers? Yes... yes, our board doesn't believe McTavish is as talented as Sillinger or Beniers for McTavish to start at center going into next season.

I think a lot of it is just people being a little cautious with prospects but yeah I do think there's a lot of that too.