Speculation: 2022-23 Roster Thread

[bsu]

I think people are extrapolating too much from watching McTavish play junior/international hockey. Playing huge minutes and leading your team to the calder cup finals is a very different role than what he will have in the NHL (at least for the time being). I expect that he will be more responsible and defensive minded and, obviously play fewer minutes (presumably with greater effort/intensity).

Also, the ducks have 10 games to get an assessment as to if/how he fits. If he's clearly not ready, they can send him back to juniors.

It's not even close to the level of the Calder cup playoff

 

[duckpuck]

It's not even close to the level of the Calder cup playoff

Wut?

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Honestly ability doesn't mean a whole lot. There's a guy I know personally whose tweets about prospects are posted here and he either didn't play hockey or at the very least wasn't good at all. Clearly doesn't matter, people seem to respect his opinion.

Mitch Brown of Elite Prospects didn't play hockey until he was a teenager (start at the 10:46 mark on youtube).

I guess that makes Mitch Brown less qualified than @bsu b/c Mitch has far fewer years of playing hockey than @bsu.

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Here is EP's Mitch Brown Podcast.
(link in case the embedding doesn't work: FHFH 209 || Dynasty Series with Mitch Brown)



-1:02:14 mark: Talks about 2022 and 2023 guys; Best scorers of WJC and mentions McTavish
-0:52:00 mark: "best point getter" = Eklund love
-0:50:26 mark: "best shooters"; McTavish is the only true "dual threat"
-0:49:06 mark: "guy that does it all" = McTavish love
-0:39:18 mark: More McTavish deep dive.

Uh I think watching hockey (especially entire games like I did with McTavish) is how you evaluate any prospect and pretty important... Yes. I also think anyone that played and/or coach understands the game better than the casual fan more times than not. I can also careless where McTavish plays if he develops best on one of the worst teams in the league at 2C then put him there. From what I've seen and the moves we just made.... And losing Getzlaf I don't see our top 3 centers being kids. Not a single person here knows if McTavish will even be on the Ducks or if he's even ready to play minutes and situations like that. With Verbeek commit about letting players develop and take their time I don't see us running it but we'll see soon.

Weren't you obviously wrong on your evaluation that McTavish wasn't on the same tier as Eklund, Edvinsson, and Guenther to be selected 3rd overall?

Weren't you also giving hot takes off of highlight clips that McTavish only touches the puck for barely half a second to score, believing that's the only time he touches the puck, and that's why he should be a winger? I've seen the games of those highlights and McTavish was highly involved and carried the puck to set up his chances to score prior to receiving the puck back for that half-second to snipe.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Also, the ducks have 10 games to get an assessment as to if/how he fits. If he's clearly not ready, they can send him back to juniors.

9 NHL games if you don't want the ELC to start. I didn't know that the game clock resets each season until someone on here educated me on it. While it's possible that McTavish can be sent back down to juniors, the probability of that happening is quite low. There's nothing left for him to prove in the OHL.

There's an open center roster spot for him to develop at the NHL level. Currently, McTavish's talent alone warrants being on the team b/c we're lacking a whole lot of top talent on our NHL club.

 

[duckpuck]

9 NHL games if you don't want the ELC to start. I didn't know that the game clock resets each season until someone on here educated me on it. While it's possible that McTavish can be sent back down to juniors, the probability of that happening is quite low. There's nothing left for him to prove in the OHL.

There's an open center roster spot for him to develop at the NHL level. Currently, McTavish's talent alone warrants being on the team b/c we're lacking a whole lot of top talent on our NHL club.

I think McTavish would benefit from a year in the AHL which, unfortunately, is not an option. I'm not convinced he is ready for the NHL but open to that possibility. So it comes down to a choice between 2 less than perfect developmental options (juniors or NHL) that each have positives and negatives. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they send him back to juniors after 9 games.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I think McTavish would benefit from a year in the AHL which, unfortunately, is not an option. I'm not convinced he is ready for the NHL but open to that possibility. So it comes down to a choice between 2 less than perfect developmental options (juniors or NHL) that each have positives and negatives. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they send him back to juniors after 9 games.

It would be a wasted year if McTavish were sent back down to juniors, and could regress his development b/c he might get too bored. He's a really big fish in a small pond at juniors. It's time he moves to a bigger pond as a small fish and try to become the big fish again.

McTavish looked great at the WJC-18 b/c he spent time in a men's league in Switzerland. The game was faster, bigger, and hit harder in the NL-B compared to playing against his peer age. McTavish did take about 7 games to get acclimated to playing in a men's league. Afterwards, his production skyrocketed. And in the NL-B playoffs, he took his scoring to another level. He cut his playoffs short to play at the WJC-18.

One trait that McTavish needs to improve upon is his endurance. There's a difference between playing against peers vs men's league. This is why McTavish dominated at the WJC-18 and WJC-20. He can't develop that endurance of playing against men in the OHL. McTavish will also be in a better structured program in the NHL. Everything with respect to a more effective and efficient development for McTavish points to the NHL than OHL, especially with an opening at the center position on a team who's season look like a developmental one.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

If Silf isn't 100% healthy (there was 1 poster who thought he'd retire) i think he would be better off on 4th line. Also felt like last season that Silf was firing blanks with his shooting and that's not good.

Comtois/Lundestrom/Carrick has a bit more bite and still enough skill to score.
If Tracey or Perreault earns a call up they could try
Comtois/Lundestrom + 1 of Perreault or Tracey.

Jones/Grant/Silf could be a great defensive 4th line.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

McTavish is gonna be on the team unless he's absolute garbage and even then you might be better served having him in your facilities everyday working on his body and being around professionals than playing Juniors again unless they agree he's going there just to work on things like playmaking for others or something

 

[gunnergunther]

I’d rather he stay in the ohl, than get the Ritchie or byfield treatment. No point in being on the big club, if he’s slotted for 10 minutes of bottom 6 play, per night.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

I think there's no real chance McTavish will be sent down. Whatever rough patches he hits, they'll try to smooth them out in the NHL.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I think there's no real chance McTavish will be sent down. Whatever rough patches he hits, they'll try to smooth them out in the NHL.

Ya I would be shocked if he was in juniors this year

Unfortunately it makes about 0 sense, best place for him would prob be the AHL, def unfortunate situation with him.

 

[gilfaizon]

Ya I would be shocked if he was in juniors this year

Unfortunately it makes about 0 sense, best place for him would prob be the AHL, def unfortunate situation with him.

I don't feel the 10 game slide means much for him anyway. However, the 40 game slide might as that pertains to free agency.

I think he's up for the full season and plays in a middle 6 role.

 

[bsu]

Wut?

Calder playoffs are AHL. Sorry I was high last night

 

[Firequacker]

Anaheim Ducks 2021 Roster

Vatrano and Strome are added... Strand and White listed on D, fwiw

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Anaheim Ducks 2021 Roster

Vatrano and Strome are added... Strand and White listed on D, fwiw

Strome 16, Vatrano 77 (??)

 

[bsu]

Anaheim Ducks 2021 Roster

Vatrano and Strome are added... Strand and White listed on D, fwiw

They list both as centers too.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Strome 16, Vatrano 77 (??)

Both their numbers from the Rangers, a usual that just isn't updated.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Thats why its a discussion forum, and none of us are on the coaching staff.... none of us really know shit..... were just dicussion our various opinions.


But constantly saying I played, i watched more.... is obnoxious. You can have discussions with people without having to 1 up them with something as silly as "i watched more of them than you"... which you really dont know for a fact, your just assuming/guessing. Or i played more hockey than you.... which i assume a lot of us have played a good amount of hockey in our lives, and the reason were all on these forums to begin with is because we love hockey(or the ducks at the very least).... so i assume majority of us are fairly knowledgeable, and watch a fair amount of hockey.


Yep he is very much a Flex option. I think we signed him with a pretty open idea of what hell do with the roster.

If mctavish isnt ready, or struggles... Strome gives us another option.... if mctavish comes in and looks nhl ready and able to handle the center duties.... then strome can easily slot to the wing.

Speak for yourself. The only reason I'm here is to bestow my vast knowledge to you plebs. I've played and watched more hockey than all of you combined. I'm Wayne f***ing Gretzky, bitch!

 

[KyleJRM]

I've played five years of absolutely whalepoop low level adult league and I'm not even very good inside those levels.

Please let me know if you've played less so I can lord it over you

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I've played five years of absolutely whalepoop low level adult league and I'm not even very good inside those levels.

Please let me know if you've played less so I can lord it over you

My grandma once called me the best player she’s ever seen, not to brag or anything. And the cutest…. Josi better watch his back

 

[ohcomeonref]

I've played five years of absolutely whalepoop low level adult league and I'm not even very good inside those levels.

Please let me know if you've played less so I can lord it over you

That's about the level I was at... When I still played 10 years ago.

 

[lwvs84]

I've played five years of absolutely whalepoop low level adult league and I'm not even very good inside those levels.

Please let me know if you've played less so I can lord it over you

I'm at about the same... I go to the front of the net because even I can tap pucks in but it takes forever to get there.

 

[bsu]

Ducks 2022-23 roster projection 2.0: Where do Ryan Strome and Frank Vatrano fit in?

The Ducks' roster-building isn't done this summer, but here's how they might look with the two new additions.

theathletic.com

 

[Leonardo87]

Was looking at line combos posted by Stephens, this one seems to make the most sense to start the season….

I don’t think they should throw McTavish at C right off the bat, ease him into the position and with Silf and Lundy he is protected. Then let him take some face offs and then take over Strome’s spot eventually.

 

[All Mighty]

Was looking at line combos posted by Stephens, this one seems to make the most sense to start the season….

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I don’t think they should throw McTavish at C right off the bat, ease him into the position and with Silf and Lundy he is protected. Then let him take some face offs and then take over Strome’s spot eventually.

I just think that 3rd line won’t produce any offense.