Speculation: 2022-23 Roster Thread

[Leonardo87]

I just think that 3rd line won’t produce any offense.

That’s my only concern. Can always swap McTavish and Comtois.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I just think that 3rd line won’t produce any offense.

Silf fires blanks at this point, it would be Lundestrom passing to McTavish 100% of the time and Silf being the 3rd wheel holding it back with his inability to shoot anymore.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

That’s my only concern. Can always swap McTavish and Comtois.

I had Comtois in that spot when making my own lineup, but really don't like the fit for either him nor McTavish there. A line featuring Silf and Lundy is inevitably going to get some pretty heavy defensive lifting.

MC/Trade - Zegras - Strome
Henrique <--> McTavish - Terry
Vatrano - Lundy - Silf
Jones - Grant - Carrick

Perhaps still a possibility of moving Comtois but might as well give him a chance like this to turn it back around. I just worry about that line being too crap defensively.

I made the Rico/McT positioning interchangeable for lack of arguments sake, but I like those three together either way.

Vatrano as a volume shooter just might work alongside Lundy and Silf, sounds like he's responsible enough if they do get heavy defensive usage.

Grant line should be able to carry more weight than your average 4th.

 

[Leonardo87]

I had Comtois in that spot when making my own lineup, but really don't like the fit for either him nor McTavish there. A line featuring Silf and Lundy is inevitably going to get some pretty heavy defensive lifting.

MC/Trade - Zegras - Strome
Henrique <--> McTavish - Terry
Vatrano - Lundy - Silf
Jones - Grant - Carrick

Perhaps still a possibility of moving Comtois but might as well give him a chance like this to turn it back around. I just worry about that line being too crap defensively.

I made the Rico/McT positioning interchangeable for lack of arguments sake, but I like those three together either way.

Vatrano as a volume shooter just might work alongside Lundy and Silf, sounds like he's responsible enough if they do get heavy defensive usage.

Grant line should be able to carry more weight than your average 4th.

Feel like we would be wasting Vatrano if he is not with Zegras. The way I see it, Strome is an upgrade from an aging Getz(obviously not prime Getz), and Vatrano is a Rakell replacement or an upgrade from Milano who both (Rakell and Milano)were inconsistent and bad defensively in their own zone. I can see Vatrano having a career season next to Z.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Feel like we would be wasting Vatrano if he is not with Zegras , the way I see it, Strome is an upgrade from an aging Getz(obviously not prime Getz), and Vatrano is a Rakell replacement or an upgrade from Milano who both (Rakell and Milano)were inconsistent and bad in his own zone. I can see Vatrano having a career season next to Z.

I originally did have Vatrano - Zegras - Strome and like that much better than with Comtois there.

At that point MC would have to bump down to play with Lundy and Silf based on the rest of the lines. Like I said before, just not a fan of that fit.

 

[Leonardo87]

I originally did have Vatrano - Zegras - Strome and like that much better than with Comtois there.

At that point MC would have to bump down to play with Lundy and Silf based on the rest of the lines. Like I said before, just not a fan of that fit.

I would love to run….

Vatrano - Zegras - Strome
Henrique - McTavish- Terry

Vatrano and Strome aren’t defense specialists far from it but they are both more responsible than Rakell and Milano. Vatrano is actually very good at getting the puck in his own end and transitioning to offense. The only issue when he was with NY and was not his fault he was put on a line with two other shooters. So you can imagine the results lol. Vatrano on a line with two playmakers will be very good for him. Z can also shoot very well also, so gives Strome options.

The only concern Is, are they going to give Mac his shot at C in the Top 6 right away?

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Also @Leonardo87 do you see the Rangers possibly moving Chytil? I realize it wouldn't save them much cap room now, but also don't see how he really fits the plans moving forward. Seems as though they sort of locked in their top 6 center situation, and have all those other wingers.

 

[Leonardo87]

Also @Leonardo87 do you see the Rangers possibly moving Chytil? I realize it wouldn't save them much cap room now, but also don't see how he really fits the plans moving forward. Seems as though they sort of locked in their top 6 center situation, and have all those other wingers.

Chytil had a strong playoffs. I don’t know if they will move him or not. But with Mika and Trocheck locked up for long term, they are going to need to get a legit 3C, a guy who can shutdown and also produce a little as well. So think it could happen.

This is is why I see so much potential with Lundy if he can become our Cirelli. That 3C role is so critical to being a real contender.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Chytil had a strong playoffs. I don’t know if they will move him or not. But with Mika and Trocheck locked up for long term, they are going to need to get a legit 3C, a guy who can shutdown and also produce a little as well. So think it could happen.

This is is why I see so much potential with Lundy if he can become our Cirelli. That 3C role is so critical to being a real contender.

Yeah that's sort of what I was getting at. Chytil doesn't seem like an ideal 3C type for a contender, nor do they have room to try him as a top 6 winger (at least without injuries). Even if he manages to flourish, doubtful they could afford much of a raise next summer.

I'd take him and Reaves off their hands, then move Chytil to the wing full time and maybe he gets a shot with Zegras.

 

[ohcomeonref]

I hope we load up PP1 and give it a shot for awhile. Let Mac-Z-Terry have a swing at it.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I think with Comtois' renewed effort at being physical and going to the net might give the 3rd line some offensive counter.

Two seasons ago, Comtois-Lundy-Rakell was our top line and top offensive line until Eakins broke them apart b/c they were our only offensive line. A Comtois-Lundy-Silf line might be our best line b/c not only will Lundy and Silf shut down your top line, but a quick countering Lundy and Comtois could lead to more scoring opportunities.

Rakell is more of a playmaker than Silf, but we do have a playmaking RW in the AHL with Perreault.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I am listening to Forever Mighty's latest episode on YouTube and they're really hyped on Max Jones. Could Jones be a dark horse talent coming into next season? I know last year, Jones made the team over Milano. Then again, that's not saying much since Steel made the team over Milano.

Jones does bring an element that our top-6/9 were missing with physicality. Murray noted at the year end interview for 2020-21 that only Jones and Comtois crashed the net.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Yeah that's sort of what I was getting at. Chytil doesn't seem like an ideal 3C type for a contender, nor do they have room to try him as a top 6 winger (at least without injuries). Even if he manages to flourish, doubtful they could afford much of a raise next summer.

I'd take him and Reaves off their hands, then move Chytil to the wing full time and maybe he gets a shot with Zegras.

Take lindgren over reaves

 

[duckpuck]

Was looking at line combos posted by Stephens, this one seems to make the most sense to start the season….

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I don’t think they should throw McTavish at C right off the bat, ease him into the position and with Silf and Lundy he is protected. Then let him take some face offs and then take over Strome’s spot eventually.

I think comtois should play top six because he needs to play with a playmaking center.

I could see

Comtois - Strome - Terry

Mctavish - Zegras - Vatrano

Henrique - Lundestrom - Silf (?? )

Could switch Henrique/McTavish I suppose. But I don't want McTavish on a shutdown type of line - and that's what Eakins has been icing.

Not focused on the fourth line - lots of options there other than wanting carrick to play.

 

[KyleJRM]

When you include the presumable year of growth from the younger guys, I like that forward group better than last year's.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I think comtois should play top six because he needs to play with a playmaking center.

I don't think Comtois needs a playmaking center to be able to score. He just needs a playmaker on his line. Two seasons ago, Comtois was fire when on a line with Lundy-Rakell. Lundy was the defensive heavy speedster while Rakell was playmaking wing.

 

[Deuce22]

I don't think Comtois needs a playmaking center to be able to score. He just needs a playmaker on his line. Two seasons ago, Comtois was fire when on a line with Lundy-Rakell. Lundy was the defensive heavy speedster while Rakell was playmaking wing.

I think people forget how good that line was. I always thought Comtois fit well with Lundestrom when he was in shape and could play a full shift.

 

[bsu]

Yeah I liked Comtois Lundestrom Rakell

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I think people forget how good that line was. I always thought Comtois fit well with Lundestrom when he was in shape and could play a full shift.

The 9 games they were together they were extremely productive. I recorded their production on excel:

Comtois: 5g + 4a = 9 pts ... (1.00 ppg)​

Lundy: 2g + 0a = 2 pts ... (0.22 ppg)​

Rakell: 0g + 4a = 4 pts ... (0.44 ppg)​

​

Total: 7g + 8a = 15 pts ... 1.67 ppg​

I still can't believe Eakins separated them!

=== Excel chart, total vs 9-games together ===

	Run CLR	2020-21
.	Total Games Played	.	13 games	.	.	.	.	20 games	.	.	.	.	20 games	.	.	.
.			Lundy	.	.	.	.	Comtois	.	.	.	.	Rakell	.	.	.
.			G	A	Total	ppg		G	A	Total	ppg		G	A	Total	ppg
.	9 games together		2​	0​	2​	0.22​		5​	4​	9​	1.00​		0​	4​	4​	0.44​
.	Total		2​	0​	2​	0.22​		8​	5​	13​	0.65​		1​	6​	7​	0.35​
.	before combo	.	0​	0​	0​	0.0​		3​	1​	4​	0.36​		1​	2​	3​	0.27​

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Comtois/Lundestrom + Perreault or Tracey would be a fun experiment.

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Silf isn’t a top 9 forward, imo.

Good for the PK, though.

 

[AngelDuck]

Silf isn’t a top 9 forward, imo.

Good for the PK, though.

Agreed. He’s a very overpaid 4th liner for the next 2 seasons. But he brings some leadership intangibles that I don’t mind having around. And need him to help reach the cap floor lol

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Silf isn’t a top 9 forward, imo.

Good for the PK, though.

Agreed. He’s a very overpaid 4th liner for the next 2 seasons. But he brings some leadership intangibles that I don’t mind having around. And need him to help reach the cap floor lol

Would rather have Perry on the 4th line than Silf, that is how much Silf has declined offensively.

If Silf plays just PK minutes and 4th line 5on5 minutes he'll be fine and could be good influence on Jones.

 

[Leonardo87]

Ducks D is going to be stacked in like 2-3 years with Drysdale, Minty, and Zellweger leading the way. So excited. We just need some veteran stop gaps to bridge that time from now. Don’t want players like Drysdale having less than ideal partners. Verbeek went out and got two ideal forwards for Z and Terry. I hope he plans to do the same for Drysdale and even Fowler.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Agreed. He’s a very overpaid 4th liner for the next 2 seasons. But he brings some leadership intangibles that I don’t mind having around. And need him to help reach the cap floor lol

His decline seemed to pretty much line right up with what we were told later about his health, that he was basically playing in need of surgery for two seasons. Since then he's battled through the blood clot issue and whatever else. It would be nice to see him fully healthy for a long enough stretch to perhaps start to rebound a bit.