2022/23 Roster Thread XIII: Where the 13th Floor Has Been Located

[Hollywood Cannon]

Lol. NYI didn’t even want him back. Chuck gonna give up a pick to clear a contract for Anisimov.

Flyers punching air.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

What you are seeing is who has more leverage. Torts in the first year of a $16 million contract knows his job is safe because the team doesn't want to be on the hook for more dead money from a coach's contract and Fletcher is basically a lame duck GM who has very little to sell, but he has to be a used car salesman until the shit finally burns to the ground.

Letting a lame duck GM help choose a new HC is great management. It’s on par with crafting a roster for a lame duck coach.

 

[PALE PWNR]

Quick update on the state of Fletcher's Flyers after 24 games

25th= P%: .438

32nd GF/GP: 2.38

19th GA/GP: 3.25

30th Net PP: 12%

26th Net PK: 76%

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Lol. NYI didn’t even want him back. Chuck gonna give up a pick to clear a contract for Anisimov.

#brace4stupidity

 

[iceman42]

They will never hold themselves or each other accountable willingly to the extent required to change anything. Not beyond Clarke blaming everything on someone else.

That's why until they clear the room I will never believe they are taking a rebuild seriously. So many layers of old boys club and old war stories to overcome to get some fresh perspective with the echo chamber that full.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Does anyone think there is a legit market for Hayes?

I see a lot of BS talk on twitter about this

 

[flyersnorth]

Does anyone think there is a legit market for Hayes?

I see a lot of BS talk on twitter about this

On a deep team, he would be an excellent addition to their 3rd line... but of course, not at $7M.

The Flyers would have to eat close to 50% of that salary, I'd think.

Put another way, if the Flyers were two lines deep and were looking to add a guy for depth as a middle sixer / 3rd liner, I'd be fine with Hayes at $3.5M.

 

[TB87]

He just said Briere was a driving force of the Deslauiries signing so yeah

I’m not sure what to make of this. I get that ASF is plugged in but NHLRumors Daily said on the latest Cold Stove Podcast that if (& when) they promote Briere to GM, Briere would stay away from making moves like Risto & Deslauriers. Some conflicting info here for sure. One thing that NHLRumors Daily said that made no sense was that Comcast can’t afford to fire Fletcher. He also mentioned that the most likely scenario is that Fletcher just stays on as Team President when Briere gets promoted to GM. That, I 100% believe…morons.

 

[Magua]

Maybe they’ll fire Fletcher and make Lombardi the Team President. They can mention his Cup winning experience!

I can’t imagine the level of incompetence to have any of these guys in your front office after this year. Actually, I can.

 

[Rich Nixon]

bring back Myers because why not

 

[Magua]

bring back Myers because why not

Well, mostly because Fletcher cannot add a single contract.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

#brace4stupidity

As one of the wisest men who has ever lived once said, dare to be stupid.

 

[Lindberg]

Must be nice to make all kinds of money being a complete doofus at your job.

 

[BernieParent]

Does anyone think there is a legit market for Hayes?

I see a lot of BS talk on twitter about this

There's a legit market for a 2023 1st with Hayes delivering it.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Well, mostly because Fletcher cannot add a single contract.

Which is apparently creating a problem, and also something they apparently couldn't see coming from a couple weeks out.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

The Flyers don’t care about hockey IQ. If they did they wouldn’t have a bunch of goddamn morons running things.

 

[Magua]

Lol. NYI didn’t even want him back. Chuck gonna give up a pick to clear a contract for Anisimov.

 

[flyerslducks]

when is this nightmare going to end? 5 years? 10?

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

What happened to Dean Lombardi? How did he manage to go full r-tard? I mean, he was a decent GM in Los Angeles and he and Hextall made a decent combo, but he gets here and now he's useless as teets on a bull....

 

[Flyerfan4life]

What happened to Dean Lombardi? How did he manage to go full r-tard? I mean, he was a decent GM in Los Angeles and he and Hextall made a decent combo, but he gets here and now he's useless as teets on a bull....

#Oldboysclub4life ^^^ thats why

 

[Striiker]

Right because thats the metric that proves he’s a better prospect.

We’ll just ignore his pros and cons, which don’t seem to even line up with Bellows anyways, because Charlie doesn’t watch any prospects.

 

[Magua]

What happened to Dean Lombardi? How did he manage to go full r-tard? I mean, he was a decent GM in Los Angeles and he and Hextall made a decent combo, but he gets here and now he's useless as teets on a bull....

Lombardi reminds me of Holmgren, for better and worse. He (mostly) acquired a very deep core, including a franchise defender, with some really shrewd win-now moves for players in their primes. He hired an undeniably good coach. His managing worked in that exact time and place......and no further.

Somehow, LA has only made the playoffs 3/8 years going forward from their Cup in 2014. Doughty was 24 and Kopitar was 26, right in their primes, when that team became stuck in the mud. Lombardi did a horrific job keeping that window open -- it's inexcusable. He showed too much loyalty; he didn't handle the cap well and sunk them with long aging contracts; he added very few NHLers in the draft going forward. His team building and hockey philosophies did not adapt in the slightest (fun fact: guess who drafted Deslauriers, if we're talking influence?). By 2016-2017, when he GM'd USA at the World Cup, he was already a fossil. He gets forgotten about here, but if Lombardi is Fletcher's actual go-to advisor, that checks out.

Those Kings are weird teams to look at in retrospect. They were the puck possession golden child when public data was still in its early stages. There's pretty much nothing they didn't do well from a shot/chance creation and suppression standpoint. The key area those Kings teams always underperformed, however, was goal scoring. From their mini-dynasty between 2011-2014, they were 27th in 5v5 GF/60 and 28th in all situations GF/60. It's probably not coincidence that the Kings overlapped with the Dead Puck 2.0 Era, and scoring has increased drastically since their runs. I'm not really sold on Lombardi being an innovator so much as his biases overlapped well with certain decisions and trends.

 

[deadhead]

Foerster does have some skating issues, on the other hand, what got Bellows waived wasn't his skating or his overall play, but the fact that at 24 he seems to have lost the offensive skills that got him drafted in the 1st rd. If Bellows can't score, then he is just another bottom six plug, and the Flyers have better ones. He'll get a chance in LHV to find his mojo.

 

[Curufinwe]

It will be funny if another team signs AA now that f***up Fletcher can't.

 

[Curufinwe]

Imagine all the Bellows
Passing thru waivers