Speculation: 2022-23 Roster Thread Part II

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Hockey Duckie

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So basically we don't have a head coach. We have 3 assistants. Eakins (5 on 5), Brown (PP), and Strothers (PK). The supposed "head coach" stays in his lane (5 on 5) and doesn't intervene if he sees that his team's special teams suck. He's fine losing game after game because he's unwilling to take charge of the ST group that isn't producing.

That's a terrible description of coaching duties and delegation. What you're telling me is that Eakins needs to give up coaching the ES unit and take over the PP unit full time. Surely, you jest.

But let's entertain this chicanery idea. Why have any assistant coaches at all since the head coach can do it all? Why do the rest of the teams need assistant coaches too? Are assistant coaches valued at all?

Isn't it the GM's responsibility to support the head coach by providing him with better coaching? Isn't that what Murray did last year? As for the PK unit, hey, let's omit that the GM didn't replace the losses of a Lindholm and a Manson.

Let's do some research around here instead of throwing stupid ideas out there.

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=== LotR version ===
:popcorn: read at your own risk :popcorn:



==== 2020-21 ====

Ducks2020-21
2020-21GamesPPGPPOEffRankPK GATSHPK EffRank
1 to 5656111238.9%31st3316479.9%16th

Eakins took over the PP duties halfway through the season, iirc. It's difficult to run the ES and PP unit, apparently. Apparently. That's why Murray hired TWO pp coaches in the ensuing off-season.

==== 2021-22 ====

Ducks2021-22
Game SetGamesPPGPPOEffPK GATSHPK Eff
1 to 3333239025.6%128585.9%
34 to 6229198522.4%178980.9%
63 to 822064413.6%145072.0%


New PP coaches (Ward & Brown) and new PK coach Stothers.

1-33: Roster is the same as 2020-21, but they're relatively healthy. The PP and PK are top-5 units.​
34-62: Roster starts incurring injuries. PP and PK are still in the top-10. ES offense and defense suffers.​
63-82 (TDL): Lose D Lindholm, D Manson, RW Rakell, and LW Des. PK and PP suffer, but the ES offense started scoring more and defense held the same.​

Between these two seasons, we see healthy talent and the new assistant coaches making a significant difference.

==== 2022-23 ====

Ducks​
Games​
PPG​
PPO​
Eff​
PK GA​
TSH​
eff​
15​
4​
39​
10.3%​
20​
56​
64.3%​

Lost assistant coach: PP Ward. Did not acquiring another PP coaching specialist.

Eakins already has his hands full with several new players, young players, and prospects.
 

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I must be watching a different game than Eakins lol. McTavish and Comtois have been absolutely fine and were by far two of our more dangerous forwards on the most recent road trip. i feel like the coaching staff has narratives of players that just aren't that accurate

I dunno. I think players are being cycled around to see what happens. It was more obvious with the blue line with our 7D-11F games.

This year, I think anyone playing with Lundy at Even Strength (ES) will be dragged down. Eakins said that Lundy had an injury and isn't quite himself just yet. We're 15 games in and Lundy still isn't there. Eakins did shift Lundy to 4C once.

It's a development year. That might be the most apt answer for everything that doesn't quite make sense.
 

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That's a terrible description of coaching duties and delegation. What you're telling me is that Eakins needs to give up coaching the ES unit and take over the PP unit full time. Surely, you jest.

But let's entertain this chicanery idea. Why have any assistant coaches at all since the head coach can do it all? Why do the rest of the teams need assistant coaches too? Are assistant coaches valued at all?

Isn't it the GM's responsibility to support the head coach by providing him with better coaching? Isn't that what Murray did last year? As for the PK unit, hey, let's omit that the GM didn't replace the losses of a Lindholm and a Manson.

Let's do some research around here instead of throwing stupid ideas out there.

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=== LotR version ===
:popcorn: read at your own risk :popcorn:



==== 2020-21 ====

Ducks2020-21
2020-21GamesPPGPPOEffRankPK GATSHPK EffRank
1 to 5656111238.9%31st3316479.9%16th

Eakins took over the PP duties halfway through the season, iirc. It's difficult to run the ES and PP unit, apparently. Apparently. That's why Murray hired TWO pp coaches in the ensuing off-season.

==== 2021-22 ====

Ducks2021-22
Game SetGamesPPGPPOEffPK GATSHPK Eff
1 to 3333239025.6%128585.9%
34 to 6229198522.4%178980.9%
63 to 822064413.6%145072.0%


New PP coaches (Ward & Brown) and new PK coach Stothers.

1-33: Roster is the same as 2020-21, but they're relatively healthy. The PP and PK are top-5 units.​
34-62: Roster starts incurring injuries. PP and PK are still in the top-10. ES offense and defense suffers.​
63-82 (TDL): Lose D Lindholm, D Manson, RW Rakell, and LW Des. PK and PP suffer, but the ES offense started scoring more and defense held the same.​

Between these two seasons, we see healthy talent and the new assistant coaches making a significant difference.

==== 2022-23 ====

Ducks​
Games​
PPG​
PPO​
Eff​
PK GA​
TSH​
eff​
15​
4​
39​
10.3%​
20​
56​
64.3%​

Lost assistant coach: PP Ward. Did not acquiring another PP coaching specialist.

Eakins already has his hands full with several new players, young players, and prospects.
I don't need all the window dressing. My point is simple-the head coach is responsible for all aspects of his team's play. Your trying to deflect Eakins' failure onto assistants is puzzling. Also, you did again what you do best. Ascribe something to me that I didn't say. Eakins doesn't need to give up to coaching ES, he needs to tell his assistants what changes they need to make. That's called taking charge.
 

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I don't think Comtois' play has been particularly bad to have him pushed down to the 4th line. But I guess if you want to give Regenda a shot in top 6 and test McT with Lundeström there's really not a lot of other options.

I don't think Comtois has been terrible enough to be duking out 4LW with Jones either. I guess this is the only permutation that allows Carrick and Leason to be in the lineup at the same time?
 

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I don't think Comtois' play has been particularly bad to have him pushed down to the 4th line. But I guess if you want to give Regenda a shot in top 6 and test McT with Lundeström there's really not a lot of other options.
Unless the goal is to develop Comtois as a top 6 winger. Then he should play in the top 6.
 

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I don’t think this line up on paper (before the injuries) were a bottom 5 team, but at this point maybe just go with it. A Top 3 pick will get a player who can make an immediate impact, and Hopefully some other players in the system will be ready as well. Ship out the underperforming vets at the TDL for some futures, add some support players in the summer and start turning the ship. Hopefully with a new coach and system this team will start to improve. We knew this season was going to be a bust, might as well bust hard. lol.
 
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I don't think Comtois' play has been particularly bad to have him pushed down to the 4th line. But I guess if you want to give Regenda a shot in top 6 and test McT with Lundeström there's really not a lot of other options.
The left side is all over the place, it seems. Henrique has woken up. Comtois is beginning to rebound from last season. We all love Regenda. McTavish shouldn't be on the wing. Jones has fizzled since the preseason.
 

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Henrique - Zegras - Terry
Vatrano - McTavish - Strome
Comtois - Lundeström - Regenda

That would be my top 9.

I like that. Strome can play RW, and it gives Strome someone to create space for him. Will also give McTavish two skilled guys. Strome going to wing is going to be inevitable when Mac is more established at C. But he is already showing he can play C on the NHL level, has looked good there.

That 3rd line also has potential.

But Eakins won’t do it. They want to Tank for Bedard!
 
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so what role does Johnson have on the coaching staff?

From Pro Hockey Rumors:

Johnson has spent the previous four seasons in the Kings organization, serving as a development coach, a professional scout, and an assistant coach on the staff of the Ontario Reign, the Kings’ AHL affiliate.

Nothing in the bio shows work on special teams. Sounds like someone laying ground to become a GM in the future. I think he's an extension of the front office. Johnson has connections with asst GM Solomon as they're both formerly from the Kings organization. Solomon is high on analytics and Verbeek made several analyst hires this past off-season.
 

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I know Craig Johnson decently well from being around at the rink and coaching. He's all about player development.

EDIT: To add to that, I'd compare his persona to Ryan Getzlaf. They have a lot of similarities, well spoken, down to earth, no non-sense, old school but understanding type guys. Great guy to develop any age level with. When he talks, you listen whether you're a player, co-coach, spectator, parent, referee. He has that type of presence.
 
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