2022/23 Roster Thread II: Worth Every Penny

[deadhead]

How is comparing Tippett and Frost a double standard? No one thinks Frost has excelled at the NHL level, right? He needs to showcase himself as an impact offensive player. But their career contexts, and what skills have translated in isolate, aren't remotely similar.

He was the best player on his AHL team in his D+3. He missed an entire season in his D+4. His D+5, coming off injury, was disappointing, albeit with moments of brilliance later on, on a total train wreck of a team

He wasn't close to as good as Tippett in his D+3 in the AHL,

"best player" on his team is cute, like who else was on that team?
Vorobyev, Sushko, Kase, Ratcliffe, Rubtsov, Twarynski.
The veterans, O'Reilly, Andreoff, Carey.

If Frost wasn't heads and shoulders better (and he wasn't) than that group . . .

 

[Beef Invictus]

A rose is a rose . ..
But a 1st is not a 1st, huge difference between #5, #14 and #27.

If you could have gotten a top 20 for Laughton, that's one thing, but usually at the TDL, you're gonna get a pick somewhere in the 20s if you can get a team to give up a 1st.

One reason TB was willing to trade 1sts was picking in the late 20s they didn't see a huge gap between that pick and the rest of their drafts. St Louis would have thought twice about the Schenn deal if they thought one of the picks would be #14, they expected both picks to be in the mid-20s.

And a huge difference between a first now and a first in some distant future.

 

[Beef Invictus]

He wasn't close to as good as Tippett in his D+3 in the AHL,

"best player" on his team is cute, like who else was on that team?
Vorobyev, Sushko, Kase, Ratcliffe, Rubtsov, Twarynski.
The veterans, O'Reilly, Andreoff, Carey.

If Frost wasn't heads and shoulders better (and he wasn't) than that group . . .

We are one Tortorella benching away from you completely changing your tune on Tippett.

 

[Magua]

He wasn't close to as good as Tippett in his D+3 in the AHL,

"best player" on his team is cute, like who else was on that team?
Vorobyev, Sushko, Kase, Ratcliffe, Rubtsov, Twarynski.
The veterans, O'Reilly, Andreoff, Carey.

If Frost wasn't heads and shoulders better (and he wasn't) than that group . . .

Well, at least I didn't predict he'd be the next Barzal, right? That'd be bad.

 

[deadhead]

We are one Tortorella benching away from you completely changing your tune on Tippett.

Nah, getting benched by Torts is a badge of honor.
Getting buried by Torts is an admission you're uncoachable.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

“Ooh, Torts, bench me harder.”

 

[CapnZin]

How is being benched a badge of honor? Who would take being sat, at the professional level, with a smile given the merit of such. Weird stance

 

[Beef Invictus]

How is being benched a badge of honor? Who would take being sat, at the professional level, with a smile given the merit of such. Weird stance

Nobody. It's just part of the bizarre fan-fiction series being written about Tortorella.

 

[AndHeMissedTheNet]

oh no

 

[Flyerfan4life]

oh no

brace for maximum pain..

Flutch def. gunna get bent over n pounded soon...

 

[FSL KINGS]

oh no

Friedman at draft said Tony D +7th for 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2 years about 5
Unofficial

 

[bobbythebrain]

Fletcher is a maasive clown

 

[BritainStix]

So on the good chance we finish bottom 5 next year, we just traded another 2nd rounder. Lololololo

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Think there is any shot Torts can convince Fletcher to trade for Seth Jones?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

So on the good chance we finish bottom 5 next year, we just traded another 2nd rounder. Lololololo

That 2nd round is for 2024. They already traded their 2023 2nd in the Risto deal.

 

[Tripod]

So on the good chance we finish bottom 5 next year, we just traded another 2nd rounder. Lololololo

Nope....we are being to be a playoff team. Mark it down!

 

[Starat327]

Think there is any shot Torts can convince Fletcher to trade for Seth Jones?

Fletcher likely doesnt feel he has enough tradable firsts left to pull it off.

That, and We now have our "top 4" RHDs locked in. Cant pay Jones 9M a year to play behind Risto and Tony.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Think there is any shot Torts can convince Fletcher to trade for Seth Jones?

Chuck and Bobert:

 

[Curufinwe]

I show the Flyers with about $4.5m in cap space with Ellis on LTIR.

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,205,000	$77,631,440	$295,000	$1,575,000	$4,573,560

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
van Riemsdyk, James $7,000,000 LW	Couturier, Sean $7,750,000 C	Atkinson, Cam $5,875,000 RW, LW
Farabee, Joel $5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 6	Hayes, Kevin $7,142,857 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Konecny, Travis $5,500,000 RW, LW
Laughton, Scott $3,000,000 C, LW	Frost, Morgan $1,000,000 C	Tippett, Owen $1,000,000 RW
Lindblom, Oskar $3,000,000 LW	Brown, Patrick $750,000 C, RW	MacEwen, Zack $750,000 C, RW
Ratcliffe, Isaac $750,000 LW

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Provorov, Ivan $6,750,000 LD	Deangelo, Anthony $5,000,000 RD RFA	Hart, Carter $3,979,000 G
Sanheim, Travis $4,675,000 LD	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,100,000 RD	Sandström, Felix $775,000 G
York, Cam $880,833 LD	Attard, Ronnie $883,750 RD
Seeler, Nick $775,000 LD/RD

 

[Tripod]

I show the Flyers with about $4.5m in cap space with Ellis on LTIR.

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]ROSTER SIZE[/TH]
[TH]SALARY CAP[/TH]
[TH]CAP HIT[/TH]
[TH]OVERAGES

[/TH]
[TH]BONUSES[/TH]
[TH]CAP SPACE[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]$82,205,000[/TD]
[TD]$77,631,440[/TD]
[TD]$295,000[/TD]
[TD]$1,575,000[/TD]
[TD]$4,573,560[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]Left Wing[/TH]
[TH]Centre[/TH]
[TH]Right Wing[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]van Riemsdyk, James
$7,000,000
LW[/TD]
[TD]Couturier, Sean
$7,750,000
C[/TD]

[TD]Atkinson, Cam
$5,875,000
RW, LW[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Farabee, Joel
$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6[/TD]
[TD]Hayes, Kevin
$7,142,857
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4[/TD]
[TD]Konecny, Travis
$5,500,000
RW, LW[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Laughton, Scott
$3,000,000
C, LW[/TD]
[TD]Frost, Morgan
$1,000,000
C[/TD]
[TD]Tippett, Owen
$1,000,000
RW[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Lindblom, Oskar
$3,000,000
LW[/TD]
[TD]Brown, Patrick
$750,000
C, RW[/TD]
[TD]MacEwen, Zack
$750,000
C, RW[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ratcliffe, Isaac
$750,000
LW[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]Left Defense[/TH]
[TH]Right Defense[/TH]
[TH]Goaltender[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Provorov, Ivan
$6,750,000
LD[/TD]
[TD]Deangelo, Anthony
$5,000,000
RD
RFA[/TD]
[TD]Hart, Carter
$3,979,000
G[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sanheim, Travis
$4,675,000
LD[/TD]
[TD]Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,100,000
RD[/TD]
[TD]Sandström, Felix
$775,000
G[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]York, Cam
$880,833
LD[/TD]
[TD]Attard, Ronnie
$883,750
RD[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Seeler, Nick
$775,000
LD/RD[/TD]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

And once we dump JVR and waive Lindblom...oh boy.

 

[flyerslducks]

I’m just so sick and tired of this roller coaster. This is for sure the worst position we have been in in a decade or two. Hexy came in and tried a rebuild by doing it the right way via the draf. We didn’t hit home with some of them obviously and the ones we did haven’t been able to take us further/have declines a lot lately.

Now, we are in cap hell, have no assets really, a terrible farm, consistently trade high 2nd round picks, and no identity/sense of direction. All this is going to do is start the inevitable rebuild again once we get a new gm. On and on this rolller coaster will go.

 

[Magua]

I'm dead inside, but free agency might yet rouse some zombified laughter.

 

[Diaper Mask Bandits]

Go Arizona, Colorado and Pittsburgh!!!

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Over under on Thompson being re-signed? For real though.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Over under on Thompson being re-signed? For real though.

He will retire and he will be awarded a lifetime contract working somewhere in the organization