2022/23 Roster Thread II: Worth Every Penny

[FLYguy3911]

 

[deadhead]

i agree that it’s doubtful he has any specific shopping list. But why would this stop Clarke and Cuck from orchestrating a horrible stop gap trade anyway? Why would they wait for his permission?

Uh, because they just hired him to turn the team around - why would they go behind his back and make moves he doesn't want?

Torts was carefully noncommittal about the schedule to turn this team around, i.e., he wants the leeway to spend his first season evaluating his roster - and word was the FO doesn't expect to make the playoffs but doesn't want a product that's embarrassing to watch. Torts will deliver the later, the team will be "hard to play against," but that doesn't mean physical, but disciplined and high energy, contesting the puck over 200 feet. He doesn't need a big name FA to build that kind of team his first season.

Fletcher has repeatedly said they need top players under 25, and I think Torts would be more comfortable with a young player that he can mold, than an big name veteran with whom he has no previous relationship.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I just want to leave the draft with Nemec

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Uh, because they just hired him to turn the team around - why would they go behind his back and make moves he doesn't want?

Torts was carefully noncommittal about the schedule to turn this team around, i.e., he wants the leeway to spend his first season evaluating his roster - and word was the FO doesn't expect to make the playoffs but doesn't want a product that's embarrassing to watch. Torts will deliver the later, the team will be "hard to play against," but that doesn't mean physical, but disciplined and high energy, contesting the puck over 200 feet. He doesn't need a big name FA to build that kind of team his first season.

Fletcher has repeatedly said they need top players under 25, and I think Torts would be more comfortable with a young player that he can mold, than an big name veteran with whom he has no previous relationship.

Hard to play against with these turds on the roster, please. Fletcher can say whatever he wants. It is meaningless. Actions will do his speaking.

 

[Cootsfanclub]

The Chiclets guys seem to be pretty confident that Gaudreau is coming here. He's been on their show multiple times (including one with Hayes).

 

[Beef Invictus]

Nothing like "win -now" moves when you have no prayer of winning anything but the draft lottery.

 

[Rebels57]

I'll say this in terms of management. While I think if he did get another full year in him, he could do something decent, but with his last year and a half for performance, it's a tough area, especially since his cap is 3M, and the Flyers are already getting cap overage charges for the upcoming season. With Lindblom bought out, he would give the team $333,333 back in cap space (so basically, with the buyout he would be -$3,333,333 for the 22-23 season), but cost $666,667 against the cap next season. Yes, the Flyers are a bit lax on LW, but I know Konecny could be moved that way and Cates could also still be on the LW on the 3rd or 4th line.

Did anyone say if Brink ever played LW in NCAA? I could of sworn someone said he did.

But yeah, for management reasons and cap reasons, there is a definitely argument to buy him out.

He was one of the Flyers most productive forwards at 5v5 from when AV was fired until the end of the season. I think you're conflating the previous season with this past one. He's definitely worth giving another season.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Making any moves that cost assets and future cap space in order to create cap space this season is the most moronic thing this franchise could do so I fully expect that they’ll do it.

 

[flyerslducks]

Making any moves that cost assets and future cap space in order to create cap space this season is the most moronic thing this franchise could do so I fully expect that they’ll do it.

We’re Probably gunna do that for every player in the future. First jvr, then hayes, Ellis, provorov, etc

 

[Flyerfan4life]

We’re Probably gunna do that for every player in the future. First jvr, then hayes, Ellis, provorov, etc

#sameasiteverwas....

 

[BiggE]

He was one of the Flyers most productive forwards at 5v5 from when AV was fired until the end of the season. I think you're conflating the previous season with this past one. He's definitely worth giving another season.

Getting rid of Lindblom and JVR while praising brain dead players like Hayes and Risto would be pure Cuck at his finest.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Uh, because they just hired him to turn the team around - why would they go behind his back and make moves he doesn't want?

Torts was carefully noncommittal about the schedule to turn this team around, i.e., he wants the leeway to spend his first season evaluating his roster - and word was the FO doesn't expect to make the playoffs but doesn't want a product that's embarrassing to watch. Torts will deliver the later, the team will be "hard to play against," but that doesn't mean physical, but disciplined and high energy, contesting the puck over 200 feet. He doesn't need a big name FA to build that kind of team his first season.

Fletcher has repeatedly said they need top players under 25, and I think Torts would be more comfortable with a young player that he can mold, than an big name veteran with whom he has no previous relationship.

Which will once again place them in that coveted 15-20 spot in the draft. Perfect.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Trading a mere $667,000 in exchange for $3,333,000 of cap space is a hell of a bargain cap-wise.

"I'll give you $100 now, but you'll have to pay me $20 next year."

"No thanks. It would be moronic of me to take money from next year's budget."

 

[blackjackmulligan]

He was one of the Flyers most productive forwards at 5v5 from when AV was fired until the end of the season. I think you're conflating the previous season with this past one. He's definitely worth giving another season.

Him being one of most productive forwards 5v5 is part of a bigger problem no?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Not a bargain if that space is used to cripple the team

 

[ponder719]

I just want to leave the draft with Nemec

I expect Nemec to go #4 at the latest. Jiricek works for me, though.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I expect Nemec to go #4 at the latest. Jiricek works for me, though.

I'm fully okay with moving up the 1 or 2 spots then

 

[ponder719]

I'm fully okay with moving up the 1 or 2 spots then.

If it's 1-2 slots, sure. I like Nemec over other options, too. My worry is that he goes #2 to NJ, and I don't think they're inclined to trade back to 5. Also, if we trade up to #2, I suspect Fletcher would take Cooley anyway.

Ultimately, I just want us to not overthink it. Take whichever of the top 5 names is there at 5, don't go off the board, don't trade out of the slot in a draft with a significant dropoff after 5, and especially don't dump the damn pick to move money.

 

[ponder719]

WELP.

 

[DancingPanther]

As I was saying. 60 pts

 

[Beef Invictus]

Dumping 10 mil in cap space onto one player after spending out the nose and dumping several players to open it up will fix it. Surely. As will the veterans Chuck brings in.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Couldnt of had this surgery 6 weeks ago ???

 

[TheKingPin]

Ellis, Couts, Farabee out and maybe we can tank.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

This organization is absolutely cursed. I’ve never seen anything like it.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

This organization is absolutely cursed. I’ve never seen anything like it.

home for misfit/broken toys...

welcome to the Flyers..