Hollywood Cannon
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Can't wait for the sound bites we get from this one...
2022/23 Roster Thread II: Worth Every Penny
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flyersnorth
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It was funny the first few times, but the shtick is pretty stale now.
renberg
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I'd rather hear them discussing a long term extension for Sanheim. These pre-draft chats are never illuminating.
flyersnorth
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Scott - "I have full confidence that Fletcher is an aggressive tool."
Fletcher - "Did you mean I will oversee an aggressive retool?"
Scott - "..."
Ghosts Beer
I saw Goody Fletcher with the Devil!
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I get the occasional laugh from it, but mostly find it annoying.
It's telling how many people fall for it, though.
TheKingPin
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Ha yes but the quoted tweet did not have the source. Either way it’s chuck we are talking about and I did see several sources guessing
5 OA + Farabee + York or something.
Ghosts Beer
I saw Goody Fletcher with the Devil!
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I'm looking forward to hearing what Fletcher and Flahr have to say. It's certainly better than no press conference at all. Some of you will complain about anything.
I also look forward to which snippets will be extricated without context and cited as if they were referring to something completely different, like the rampant misuse of the "we're in a pretty good spot" quote.
I also look forward to which snippets will be extricated without context and cited as if they were referring to something completely different, like the rampant misuse of the "we're in a pretty good spot" quote.
Beef Invictus
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Yeah, "Torts Style" has worked so well that his teams haven't competed for anything in nearly 20 years. The league is sprinting from that style towards aggression, to exploit increasing offensive skill in prospects now that youth can focus on scoring instead of survival from goons.
Why should we want that?
Beef Invictus
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There is no context in which they were in a good spot.
Keep defending failures. You'll come around a week before they're fired.
FLYguy3911
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Last year Fletcher pretty much told us he was selling the pick. Can't wait for this one!
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HA! I think I've told you this before, but the team I played for here did a tour to England in 2012. It was over good Friday so we got to see the Darby between St. Helens and Wigan (in Wigan). We got a tour of the Wigan Stadium which was state of the art at the time - it was sick!
One of our teammates came from St. Helens, so we were setup by a few of the local teams. We were trained by the St. helens coaching staff, got a tour of their practice facilities, too.
We also got to see Warrington play, but I forget who they played. We got to go to their training and watch, which such a good learning experience. At halftime of that game, we were able to go onto the field and take photos.
On top of it all, we got to play a few good teams, the Wigan Riversiders being the one from Wigan. They were very good, we played them well for 60min, but they pulled away at the end. The other team we played was from St. helens, we drew them 24-24.
Also got to see a Liverpool match. I got to sit in the KOP (supporters section for those who are reading this and don't know). Standing up the whole time, chanting, singing -- such a wonderful sporting experience.
By far, best trip of my life.
deadhead
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Seems Torts isn't as much of a Dino as advertised:
What has put Tortorella in a more aggressive mindset? He said the analytical data he’s receiving from Josh Flynn, the club’s director of hockey administration, has been enlightening.
Tortorella didn’t have the figures handy, but he said the numbers convinced him to give players the freedom to fire long-distance shots if they saw an open lane or a way to lob it over the attackers.
Tortorella also mentioned the team’s improved faceoff form in the defensive zone as a reason to go for goal.
theathletic.com
What has put Tortorella in a more aggressive mindset? He said the analytical data he’s receiving from Josh Flynn, the club’s director of hockey administration, has been enlightening.
Tortorella didn’t have the figures handy, but he said the numbers convinced him to give players the freedom to fire long-distance shots if they saw an open lane or a way to lob it over the attackers.
Tortorella also mentioned the team’s improved faceoff form in the defensive zone as a reason to go for goal.
Screw the red line: John Tortorella wants Blue Jackets shooting for empty nets regardless of the risk
“The numbers say go for it, so we are going to keep going for it.”
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That really is a great tour... and yeh, you said some stuff about it previously but not all the details!
If you got to see Warrington train in 2012 you might have seen another guy I played with aha... albeit at water polo and not rugby. Samir Tahraoui. Ended up playing for Bradford Bulls and then jumping between 2nd and 3rd tier for a few years. I think he was still at Warrington in 2012. Cant have missed him since he is like 6'7 and at that time I guess he had braids halfway down his back aha. He actually played in Queensland I believe as well in the Queensland Cup for a year or winter. Not spoken to him in probably 10 years but a good guy.
Yeh, Anfield is a pretty special stadium!
Beef Invictus
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Seems Torts isn't as much of a Dino as advertised:
What has put Tortorella in a more aggressive mindset? He said the analytical data he’s receiving from Josh Flynn, the club’s director of hockey administration, has been enlightening.
Tortorella didn’t have the figures handy, but he said the numbers convinced him to give players the freedom to fire long-distance shots if they saw an open lane or a way to lob it over the attackers.
Tortorella also mentioned the team’s improved faceoff form in the defensive zone as a reason to go for goal.
Screw the red line: John Tortorella wants Blue Jackets shooting for empty nets regardless of the risk
“The numbers say go for it, so we are going to keep going for it.”
Oh so data convinced him that shooting is worthwhile?
After 20 years?
This isn't as encouraging as you think it is.
deadhead
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What do you think his style is?
I'd say the AVs are actually pretty much what Torts wants from his team, aggressively back checking, turning the puck over on defense then rapidly transitioning to offense, with D-men encouraged to be aggressive in the O-zone. AVs played smothering defense all over the ice, "playing hard" and forcing turnovers. Lead all PO teams in xGA/60 (5x5).
Torts is more aggressive than Hakstol or AV, but obviously it's easier to generate offense in his scheme if he had horses like MacKinnong, Makar, Toews, Rantanen et al.
He puts less stress on being physical and hitting, but expects his players to help his goalie by blocking shots.
Note Makar had 28 blocked shots in 20 games in the playoffs, Toews and Landeskog 20 each.
Beef Invictus
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Emphasis on safety over risky aggression.
When aggression in transition and on offense has been the winning formula for years now, and Tortorella has admitted in many ways he doesn't understand. He's openly scoffed at it and been proven wrong.
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2 years away from being 2 years away
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will ???
ummm bit late to that party
here it comes... #5OA in play....
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