Speculation: 2022-23 Management/Coaching/Ownership

[Ducks DVM]

bedard is gone though.

This team was never going to finish last overall with how bad Chicago and Columbus are. There’s almost no real change between the chance of getting Bedard at 2nd vs 5th.

1st - 25.5%
2nd - 13.5
3rd - 11.5
4th - 9.5
5th - 8.5

The real concern is falling out of the top 4.

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

even more reason i think he'll be brought back. and it's looking unlikely that they'll end up with fantilli, carlsson, or michkov either

I don’t see what good it does the young players by having them play in an old outdated defensive system but we shall see I guess

 

[Terry Yake]

I don’t see what good it does the young players by having them play in an old outdated defensive system but we shall see I guess

just saying it wouldn't surprise me at all if eakins comes back. the kids are playing well and they're winning games

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

just saying it wouldn't surprise me at all if eakins comes back. the kids are playing well and they're winning games

People said same thing last year.

Garbage time wins ain’t what this squad needs.

 

[Terry Yake]

People said same thing last year.

Garbage time wins ain’t what this squad needs.

and they ended up bringing him back lol

i agree because they should be losing to get a higher chance at a better pick, but clearly verbeek takes something away from these late season surges

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

and they ended up bringing him back lol

i agree because they should be losing to get a higher chance at a better pick, but clearly verbeek takes something away from these late season surges

March wins vs uninterested teams that already clinched and teams that just sold half their roster is the Eakins / Verbeek specialty.

 

[Ducks DVM]

March wins vs uninterested teams that already clinched and teams that just sold half their roster is the Eakins / Verbeek specialty.

They were 2-9-3 last March. Wins were vs Boston and San Jose.

4-6-2 in April, beating Arizona, Philadelphia, Columbus, and San Jose.

they cratered in the spring. It was the fall that made them not get a high draft pick.

 

[Leonardo87]

If Eakins returns won’t be too upset. It’s not like we are contending next year. I just hope Verbeek tries to start to fix the roster starter with the D. He brought in 3 UFA’s, one has looked very good, one has looked like poo but he is no longer here, and the other the jury is still out on him.

Maybe this summer can find D support for Fowler and Drysdale. Will have the cap. Supporting the D will in return help the offense as well.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Unless PV truly believes Eakins is the guy to take this team to respectibility and beyond, it's time to shit can him this summer just like the players who have no future here. A new coach needs to grow with the new talent. It's been long enough for PV to know his evaluation of DE. Time to commit one way or the other.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Reflection

2021-22 Season =====

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Ducks​	2021-22​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
2021-22​	Games​	W​	L​	OTL​	Pts​	Pts Pct​	​	GF​	GA​	GD​	GD/Game​
Total​	82​	31​	37​	14​	76​	46.3%​	​	232​	271​	-39​	-0.48​
Gm 1 - 33​	33​	17​	9​	7​	41​	62.1%​	​	104​	91​	13​	0.39​
Gm 34 - 62​	29​	10​	16​	3​	23​	39.7%​	​	76​	106​	-30​	-1.03​
Gm 63 - 82​	20​	4​	12​	4​	12​	30.0%​	​	52​	74​	-22​	-1.10​

Gm 34-62 is when the Ducks started getting hit with a lot of injuries and COVID. Manson missed 17 games in this set, Fowler missed 4 games, and Lindholm missed 2 games.

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Ducks 2021-22​	Special Teams​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Game Set​	Games​	PPG​	PPO​	PP Eff​	​	PK GA​	TSH​	PK Eff​
1 to 33​	33​	23​	90​	25.6%​	​	12​	85​	85.9%​
34 to 62​	29​	19​	85​	22.4%​	​	17​	89​	80.9%​
63 to 82​	20​	6​	44​	13.6%​	​	14​	50​	72.0%​

2022-23 Season =====

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Ducks​	2022-23​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Game Set​	Games​	W​	L​	OTL​	Pts​	Pts Pct​	​	GF​	GA​	GD​	GD/Game​
Total​	67​	22​	35​	10​	54​	40.3%​	​	172​	271​	-99​	-1.48​
1 to 25​	25​	6​	16​	3​	15​	30.0%​	​	63​	105​	-42​	-1.68​
26 to 49​	24​	9​	13​	2​	20​	41.7%​	​	60​	99​	-39​	-1.63​
50 to 67​	18​	7​	6​	5​	19​	52.8%​	​	49​	67​	-18​	-1.00​

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Ducks 2022-23​	Special Teams​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Game Set​	Games​	PPG​	PPO​	PP Eff​	​	PK GA​	TSH​	PK Eff​
Total​	67​	30​	188​	16.0%​	​	61​	225​	72.9%​
Gm 1-25​	25​	12​	72​	16.7%​	​	31​	89​	65.2%​
Gm 26-49​	24​	11​	69​	15.9%​	​	17​	81​	79.0%​
Gm 50 - 67​	18​	7​	47​	14.9%​	​	13​	55​	76.4%​

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Anaheim finished with the 2nd worst record in 2020-21. GM Murray didn't add any outside help during the 2021. He was banking on the youths to continue growth and expect the veterans to show up (being healthy). The gamble paid off, but Murray couldn't follow the team when he resigned due to his problems within the org.

The importance of extending the scope to 2020-21 was to show that coach Eakins had the same players under his Even Strength (ES) players. Eakins got new PP and PK coaches.

After the 2021-22 TDL, our Points % was 30% and a GD of -1.10 per game. That was a huge roster turnover. There was another huge roster turnover during the 2022 summer. Our first 25 games of this season, our Pts % is still 30%, but a worst GD of -1.68 per game. The next 24 games, our GD per game remained the same, but our Pts % improved to 41.7%. The team is finally catching on and it coincides with the PK unit vastly improving. Since game 50, the team has become better defensively at ES while the PK slips a little bit.

Anaheim added only two NHL roster players in F McGinn and D Harrington. Maybe it was a blessing in disguise carrying 8 D all season as White didn't look out of place when thrown onto the ice. The Ducks took 3 points against two playoff vying teams in Calgary and Nashville.

The progression this year is actually impressive. Our ES play has improved since the start of the season and we're being carried by our youths in Terry, Z, and McTavish along with longstanding vets in Fowler and Rico. Seeing all this progress makes me sadden because Drysdale missed having this progression by missing the whole year.

 

[Rybread86]

Sounds like Nester will be in the lineup tonight and will be sporting #62.

I know we had some debate on his size, but even the NHL is listing him at 6'0 and 157lbs.

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Wonder if they are just using outdated info or some of the other sites had it wrong?

 

[cheesymc]

Sounds like Nester will be in the lineup tonight and will be sporting #62.

I know we had some debate on his size, but even the NHL is listing him at 6'0 and 157lbs.

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Wonder if they are just using outdated info or some of the other sites had it wrong?

6'2 or 6'0... he needs to start working out harder and be at the very least on Terry's fitness program. Terry was a toothpick and it took him a while to get adequate strength.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Sounds like Nester will be in the lineup tonight and will be sporting #62.

I know we had some debate on his size, but even the NHL is listing him at 6'0 and 157lbs.

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Wonder if they are just using outdated info or some of the other sites had it wrong?

The NHL is using outdated info. Nesterenko is a college product and college programs are known for developing their bodies because they only play on weekends. Even our Dev camp roster sheet was using outdated info. When Thrun was interviewed by Stephens at Dev camp, Thrun said he was over 200 lbs and the roster sheet said he was still 190 lbs.

Boston College has Nesternko listed at 6'2 and 185 lbs.

 

[Dirk316]

Another gritty tough player according to Verbeek joining the likes of Leason, Mcginn, and Megna

 

[cheesymc]

Another gritty tough player according to Verbeek joining the likes of Leason, Mcginn, and Megna

Verbeek wants us to be like Buffalo first. Pretenders in the standings and then getting bum rushed by teams like Boston 7-0 at every match. He wants his stars like Dahlin to get run over with no response, then have his underweight stars step up and take beatings from the other teams enforcer like Cozens on Frederick. But instead of a 6'3 Dahlin and Cozens, we will swap that with a 5'10 Zellweger/Drysdale + 6' Zegras/Terry.

 

[Dirk316]

Verbeek wants us to be like Buffalo first. Pretenders in the standings and then getting bum rushed by teams like Boston 7-0 at every match. He wants his stars like Dahlin to get run over with no response, then have his underweight stars step up and take beatings from the other teams enforcer like Cozens on Frederick. But instead of a 6'3 Dahlin and Cozens, we will swap that with a 5'10 Zellweger/Drysdale + 6' Zegras/Terry.

Has he ever been asked about the lack of toughness of this team. I can't find anything
How is it a non topic by the so called Ducks reporters

 

[Vipers31]

Another gritty tough player according to Verbeek joining the likes of Leason, Mcginn, and Megna

Can you just bring it to the Verbeek thread instead of using a new kid‘s thread to endlessly echo your grievances with our GM‘s decisions? Thanks, man.

 

[goonsaredumb]

Verbeek wants us to be like Buffalo first. Pretenders in the standings and then getting bum rushed by teams like Boston 7-0 at every match. He wants his stars like Dahlin to get run over with no response, then have his underweight stars step up and take beatings from the other teams enforcer like Cozens on Frederick. But instead of a 6'3 Dahlin and Cozens, we will swap that with a 5'10 Zellweger/Drysdale + 6' Zegras/Terry.

Does he? I get we have no "team toughness" this year and people are making these massive generalizations about Verbeek based on one season but in his first draft as GM he drafted Gaucher a big physical guy who is not afraid to drop the gloves and seems to fit the modern "enforcer" mold except he can actually play hockey too, he also drafted Warren another big physical kid and he signed that college FA Wiebe who is literally just a flat out goon.

I think the idea that Verbeek wants a team with no toughness is just ignoring all the obvious moves he's made to add toughness, it's the same as people saying this team needs to focus on drafting defensemen because our current defense sucks ignoring the plethora of defensemen in our pipeline and the lack of many offensive prospects.

 

[cheesymc]

Does he? I get we have no "team toughness" this year and people are making these massive generalizations about Verbeek based on one season but in his first draft as GM he drafted Gaucher a big physical guy who is not afraid to drop the gloves and seems to fit the modern "enforcer" mold except he can actually play hockey too, he also drafted Warren another big physical kid and he signed that college FA Wiebe who is literally just a flat out goon.

I think the idea that Verbeek wants a team with no toughness is just ignoring all the obvious moves he's made to add toughness, it's the same as people saying this team needs to focus on drafting defensemen because our current defense sucks ignoring the plethora of defensemen in our pipeline and the lack of many offensive prospects.

Physicality isn’t done only through the draft. It’s a cultural priority. You prioritize tough UFA prospects like Nashville did with Jeannot, and with darts like Navrin Mutters. You sign UFAs like the Coyotes with temporary plugs like Richie and Josh Browns to protect your talent, especially if you have mouthy showboats like Zegras. You draft talent and give a bit more weighting to profiles with more grit like Bruins did Frederick/Carlo, but not at the expense in talent, like wasting a high pick like Ottawa did with Boucher who is nowhere close to being a Tom Wilson type.

Our current lineup is a travesty. If our stars like Zegras are smart, they would avoid signing long term with a horrible organization with no direction. They would wait until they are close to being a UFA to chose their destination. Why re-up with a team that is one of the softest in the league and has no coaching talent or team identity? Really, we currently have no hope but a shrinking chance at Bedard….

 

[goonsaredumb]

Physicality isn’t done only through the draft. It’s a cultural priority. You prioritize tough UFA prospects like Nashville did with Jeannot, and with darts like Navrin Mutters. You sign UFAs like the Coyotes with temporary plugs like Richie and Josh Browns to protect your talent, especially if you have mouthy showboats like Zegras. You draft talent and give a bit more weighting to profiles with more grit like Bruins did Frederick/Carlo, but not at the expense in talent, like wasting a high pick like Ottawa did with Boucher who is nowhere close to being a Tom Wilson type.

Our current lineup is a travesty. If our stars like Zegras are smart, they would avoid signing long term with a horrible organization with no direction. They would wait until they are close to being a UFA to chose their destination. Why re-up with a team that is one of the softest in the league and has no coaching talent or team identity? Really, we currently have no hope but a shrinking chance at Bedard….

I dunno man you just sound like a turbodoomer, I think we've got lots to be hopeful for I think you're missing the forest for the trees

 

[Kalv]

Another gritty tough player according to Verbeek joining the likes of Leason, Mcginn, and Megna

I don't think he has ever called them tough (outside of tough to play against maybe). He has said on the record that he wants grittyness and forechecking - which is also why we don't go for Tolvanen but do for Megna.

I would like us to get tougher as well btw, just following Verbeeks breadcrumbs here

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

I don't think he has ever called them tough (outside of tough to play against maybe). He has said on the record that he wants grittyness and forechecking - which is also why we don't go for Tolvanen but do for Megna.

I would like us to get tougher as well btw, just following Verbeeks breadcrumbs here

There's not a whole lot gritty about Megna and Leason.

I'd rather take Tolvanen's skill over whatever they bring to the table, though Megna aint terrible.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Does he? I get we have no "team toughness" this year and people are making these massive generalizations about Verbeek based on one season but in his first draft as GM he drafted Gaucher a big physical guy who is not afraid to drop the gloves and seems to fit the modern "enforcer" mold except he can actually play hockey too, he also drafted Warren another big physical kid and he signed that college FA Wiebe who is literally just a flat out goon.

I think the idea that Verbeek wants a team with no toughness is just ignoring all the obvious moves he's made to add toughness, it's the same as people saying this team needs to focus on drafting defensemen because our current defense sucks ignoring the plethora of defensemen in our pipeline and the lack of many offensive prospects.

I'm just upset Verbeek doesn't care about the team today. Verbeek does care about it's future, though.

The odd thing is that Verbeek went after a 3C who will drop the gloves with the 22nd pick instead of looking for another top-6 forward, passing upon 6'2 RW Snuggerud and 6' C Kulich. I'll still root for Gaucher, but we could have had a another top-6 forward developing with the 2023 first round pick.

 

[goonsaredumb]

I'm just upset Verbeek doesn't care about the team today. Verbeek does care about it's future, though.

The odd thing is that Verbeek went after a 3C who will drop the gloves with the 22nd pick instead of looking for another top-6 forward, passing upon 6'2 RW Snuggerud and 6' C Kulich. I'll still root for Gaucher, but we could have had a another top-6 forward developing with the 2023 first round pick.

I agree we should've gone for Kulich or Snuggerud instead of Gaucher and I wasn't thrilled when we made that pick at the time, but it definitely annoys me seeing people on here flat our rooting for him to fail (obviously not you) for something completely out of his control, like we've got Gaucher now and he looks like an extremely solid player who should have no problem slotting into our lineup in the future as a core piece of our future shutdown line/PK, but some people on here just flat out dump on him for every little thing he does or doesn't do because he isn't those other guys mentioned.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I agree we should've gone for Kulich or Snuggerud instead of Gaucher and I wasn't thrilled when we made that pick at the time, but it definitely annoys me seeing people on here flat our rooting for him to fail (obviously not you) for something completely out of his control, like we've got Gaucher now and he looks like an extremely solid player who should have no problem slotting into our lineup in the future as a core piece of our future shutdown line/PK, but some people on here just flat out dump on him for every little thing he does or doesn't do because he isn't those other guys mentioned.

Gaucher's just gonna get bigger too! He still needs to work on his skating edges, cornering, and explosive first steps. I would love to see him just run over people just because he's bigger, but I have to remember he's only running over people in juniors. He'll be facing other guys just as big as him in the NHL that are stronger, faster, and more skill.

Since we are picking in the top-6 this draft, it's pointless to pick on Gaucher. Now, if we were picking in the 20s this year, then I'd be a little more irate to have passed on Snuggerud or Kulich.