Speculation: 2022-23 Management/Coaching/Ownership
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SmokeyDuck
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Honestly, I hope he doesn't focus too much on 1-2 targets he cannot sign and then re-signs our laughing stock behind the bench because he's a known commodity. Eakins is the worst coach of the 21st century, and his statistics prove that. No matter what a certain user is trying to imply with his LotR posts.
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sowcufucakky
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After another loss, Verbeek is playing "Bad Habits" by Sheeran and singing along,
"ooh-woo-oo-woooo ... ooh-woo-ooh-woo
My bad habits lead to nights without a powerplay goal
Conversations with this team I barely know
Swearin' this will be the last trade deadline fire sale, but it probably won't
I got nothin' left to lose, or use, or do
My bad habits lead to wide eyes stare into space
And I know I'll lose the games with the defense I traded away
Yeah, I was lookin' for a way down, now it's my team's fate
Bedard' happens before pick number two, it's true
It's true, my bad habits lead to a pick higher than two
ooh-woo-oo-woooo ... ooh-woo-ooh-woo"
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If we got Bedard I'll approve, if not f*** this.After another loss, Verbeek is playing "Bad Habits" by Sheeran and singing along,
"ooh-woo-oo-woooo ... ooh-woo-ooh-woo
My bad habits lead to nights without a powerplay goal
Conversations with this team I barely know
Swearin' this will be the last trade deadline fire sale, but it probably won't
I got nothin' left to lose, or use, or do
My bad habits lead to wide eyes stare into space
And I know I'll lose the games with the defense I traded away
Yeah, I was lookin' for a way down, now it's my team's fate
Bedard' happens before pick number two, it's true
It's true, my bad habits lead to a pick higher than two
ooh-woo-oo-woooo ... ooh-woo-ooh-woo"
Hockey Duckie
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did you not read the altered lyrics?
We're tanking by design of not having proper talent, physicality, or shutdown balance on the blue line. Technically, Bedard isn't the only generational player in this year's draft, but that war kinda is pushing Michkov down a peg or two, but, yes, we're "Bad Habiting for Bedard".
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Smirnov2Chistov
Fire Greg Cronin!
Verbeek has a lot of work ahead of him. There are glimpses of talent, but I don’t see this team being remotely competitive until 2025 honestly.
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sowcufucakky
That’s pretty much where his interview put us at. The guys he just signed are to teach Terry and Zegras and McTavish how to be hard to play against, so that they can teach the current prospects, so that those prospects can teach the. Next set of prospects.
This was only in the middle of the rebuild right up until the point where the team (especially Gibson) fell apart after the all star game and he dismantled the team. Back to the ground floor with us.
Hockey Duckie
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We didn't have Manson for 12 out of 14 games under Verbeek. Manson was injured in the penultimate game before the all-star break. Last game before the all-star break was Jan 31, 2022. Verbeek was signed Feb 3, 2022. Manson was put on injured reserved on Feb 8, 2022. Verbeek didn't lift a finger until days before the TDL and picked up Sustr on waivers.
I think because we didn't have a GM between Nov 10 to Feb 3, we didn't address that we were forced to dress three rookies (Drysdale, Benoit, and Mahura) onto the ice at the same time if one of Fowler, Lindholm, or Manson got injured. Under Murray, he would have found a bottom pairing, shutdown D than to rely on three rookies. IMO, Murray probably would have traded to re-acquire Fleury with a 6th round pick since Seattle was constantly benching Fleury.
Between Dec 31st to Jan 31st, a total of 15 games, is when one of at least Lindholm, Fowler, or Manson started falling to injury. They missed 9 games in that 15 game set.
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Deuce22
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If Murray liked Fleury as much as you always say he did, probably would have put him on the protected list.
Elite developer of young talent.
This is what happens when you have sh*t coaching for 3 straight years.
Dallas was crazy-hyped out of the Marlies’ system as the next big thing. The hype was probably the same level as Guy Boucher and Jon Cooper. Some of it was the Toronto media effect but not all - A lot of teams wanted him. Just goes to show that “coach scouting” can be just as flawed as player scouting.
The disparity between his AHL success and NHL futility is really interesting. I think there is a certain level of technical/tactical acumen required that he just doesn’t have. But there’s probably other stuff behind scenes.
The disparity between his AHL success and NHL futility is really interesting. I think there is a certain level of technical/tactical acumen required that he just doesn’t have. But there’s probably other stuff behind scenes.
The rosters he has had haven’t helped. He hasnt had a playoff roster ever in his time in Anaheim.
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Expansion draft list options:
a) 7 forwards, 3 defensemen, and 1 goalie
b) 8 skaters and 1 goalie
Murray did like Fleury, but Murray wanted to protect more players. Of course, if you did your research, then you'd realize there's more nuance to making GM decisions. Also, Murray was proven correct in not protecting Fleury because Fleury was benched often with Seattle. Or did you forget that I projected Fleury could be re-acquired for a 6th round pick?
But why would I want Fleury back? Because he actually played decent with Anaheim than he did before or after Anaheim. Oh wait... that would mean we'd have to give Eakins his due for developing players. We can't have that, now can we?
Facts and nuances suck more than consistent narrative bashing.
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Hockey Duckie
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Eakins did have a playoff roster... for a short time until injuries hit and having no GM to help when those injuries arose last season. Afterwards, we got a new GM dead set on resetting the team at the TDL.
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Gm 1-33: Team mostly healthy
Gm 34-62: D Lindholm missed 2 games, D Fowler missed 4 games, and D Manson missed 17 games
Gm 63-82: TDL sold off D Lindholm (PK), D Manson (PK), RW Rakell (PP), and LW Des (PK'er too).
| Ducks 2021-22 | |||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Game Set | GP | W | L | OTL | Pts | . | GF | GA | GD | . | Point Share |
| Total | 82 | 31 | 37 | 14 | 76 | 232 | 271 | -39 | 0.463 | ||
| Gm 1 - 33 | 33 | 17 | 9 | 7 | 41 | 104 | 91 | 13 | 0.621 | ||
| Gm 34 - 62 | 29 | 10 | 16 | 3 | 23 | 76 | 106 | -30 | 0.397 | ||
| Gm 63 - 82 | 20 | 4 | 12 | 4 | 12 | 52 | 74 | -22 | 0.300 |
| Ducks 2021-22 | Special Teams | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Game Set | Games | PPG | PPO | Eff | PK GA | TSH | PK Eff | |
| 1 to 33 | 33 | 23 | 90 | 25.6% | 12 | 85 | 85.9% | |
| 34 to 62 | 29 | 19 | 85 | 22.4% | 17 | 89 | 80.9% | |
| 63 to 82 | 20 | 6 | 44 | 13.6% | 14 | 50 | 72.0% |
I included special teams to show the relationship of having a healthy roster, not having a healthy roster, and the TDL reset is extended to these groups too. Roster talent matters.
Early last season, I remember plenty of poster complaining about shortening the bench at the end of close games in the third period by not playing Zegras, Terry, or Drysdale. We were either securing a win or securing a tie. Then in OT, that's when Eakins re-inserted the youths when 3v3 is pond hockey play than technical play and we're playing with house money since we already secured a point.
The Athletic has an article on the situation and Shatty sounds like fully backing Eakins here and putting the blame on players themself. Article also mentions that wins might not be the result we're after anymore this year, rather player development is. So Eakins might be safe. I'm ok with that tbh as long as we don't get outshot horribly anymore
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Would you be able to post the quote for those of us without a subscription?
Deuce22
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I like Fleury and was disappointed that he wasn't protected. Would look good on Ducks blue line right about now. Just think you have oversold how much Murray liked him.Expansion draft list options:
a) 7 forwards, 3 defensemen, and 1 goalie
b) 8 skaters and 1 goalie
Murray did like Fleury, but Murray wanted to protect more players. Of course, if you did your research, then you'd realize there's more nuance to making GM decisions. Also, Murray was proven correct in not protecting Fleury because Fleury wasn't benched often with Seattle. Or did you forget that I projected Fleury could be re-acquired for a 6th round pick?
But why would I want Fleury back? Because he actually played decent with Anaheim than he did before or after Anaheim. Oh wait... that would mean we'd have to give Eakins his due for developing players. We can't have that, now can we?
Facts and nuances suck more than consistent narrative bashing.
Smirnov2Chistov
Fire Greg Cronin!
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