Speculation: 2022-23 Management/Coaching/Ownership

[CrazyDuck4u]

It's pretty rough when we're sick and tired after 8 games. That is how it feels though.

I guess alot of us were expecting better results.. after the free agency signings and what not.. But defensively this team is just a train wreck.. That alone caused the offense to collapse

 

[bsu]

Tanking for a player/s you may not even get, and/ or have never played a game in the nhl .... while risking the development of your current young players + losing a good chunk of an already small, fickle fanbase isn't good business.

I've been patient and hung in there for the past 5 playoff-less years, but if this shit show continues past Christmas, I'm likely taking an extended break from the Ducks. It's just not worth my time watching this train wreck.

I concur.

 

[AngelDuck]

Say they’re like 5-17-3 or something after 25 games. I think you have to just do a mercy dismissal at that point.

You think they’ll have 5 wins by then? Our only win was against Seattle after being dominated by them.

 

[AngelDuck]

Tanking for a player/s you may not even get, and/ or have never played a game in the nhl .... while risking the development of your current young players + losing a good chunk of an already small, fickle fanbase isn't good business.

I've been patient and hung in there for the past 5 playoff-less years, but if this shit show continues past Christmas, I'm likely taking an extended break from the Ducks. It's just not worth my time watching this train wreck.

I agree but with the one caveat that this is the year where you don’t have to tank for 1 or 2 players. There are a legit 6 players that could be a #1 overall in a different year. If we can finish with a bottom 3 record it’s something to be excited about. Obviously the coach HAS to go this offseason and we need major reshuffling

To me this is the final straw year before there is to start being major, consistent improvement. So we’re tanking for one more elite guy. Fine. Better come out and get better next year and at least be respectable.

 

[Deuce22]

They have lost 7 straight games and which they have been dominated in 70 percent of those games.. If they Dont make a change after next loss... Than 100% Verbeek is tanking.. He doesn't care.. about this year..

I thought this when he brought Eakins back.

 

[mightyquack]

I thought this when he brought Eakins back.

Anyone that thought otherwise was just being naive. This season is the first season Eakins is actually doing his job perfectly as our coach.

Coaches like Eakins don't come back for a 4th season unless the goal is purely to lose.

 

[Mr Rogers]

You think they’ll have 5 wins by then? Our only win was against Seattle after being dominated by them.

I think they might be right around there. Arizona was 5-18-2 after 25 last year. Do you you think they’ll have like 3 wins at 25 ? 2 wins in next 17 games

 

[Gliff]

Eakins

Anyone that thought otherwise was just being naive. This season is the first season Eakins is actually doing his job perfectly as our coach.

Coaches like Eakins don't come back for a 4th season unless the goal is purely to lose.

This.

You all need to stop being so upset. This is the plan. They can’t do what NY did and announce it. But this is the plan.

 

[GreatBear]

This may be the plan, but the pain is excruciating. It is hard to swallow that the season is already over.

At this point we get a top three choice in the first round and what amounts to a late first round choice in the second round. There are always a few first round talents that slip to the second day, so if you pick in the top five in the second round you can usually get one of those guys.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Eakins


This.

You all need to stop being so upset. This is the plan. They can’t do what NY did and announce it. But this is the plan.

Maybe it's also true that it's a stupid plan. Can I be upset in that case?

 

[anezthes]

Maybe it's also true that it's a stupid plan. Can I be upset in that case?

Mr. Burrito, thank you for applying to Freedom. As you are well aware, the Council is very busy these days but I was able to process your request last minute and yes, it turns out you are indeed entitled to your Opinion(s). Thank you for your patience, we look forward to hearing from you again.

 

[Gliff]

Maybe it's also true that it's a stupid plan. Can I be upset in that case?

Of course you can. Would you rather I have said "stop acting like this wasn't the plan"?

I'm just curious what you would have done differently that you think would have made this team a playoff team. They don't have the players.

 

[Quack Shot]

I’ll keep watching this team this year, but pretty much just to watch Zegras, McTavish, Terry, and Drysdale. If Eakins ever gives Lundestrom a chance, then him too.

 

[ohcomeonref]

Of course you can. Would you rather I have said "stop acting like this wasn't the plan"?

I'm just curious what you would have done differently that you think would have made this team a playoff team. They don't have the players.

The gap between what we're seeing and a playoff team is light-years apart. Nobody expected playoffs. We (or I, at least) expected a competent offense, horrendous defense, and a great PP (we absolutely have the personnel for this). Tanking doesn't have to include unstructured hockey where your PP gets scored on more than it scores itself and zero team toughness where you get hammered into the ground every night.

 

[bsu]

I guess my expectations are too high to expect a professional team to have a resemblance of structure and to show effort in each game.... but once again I guess I have high expectations. Wake me up when October ends.

 

[pbgoalie]

If this is the plan, the plan is scary.
Our goalie looks at best bemused.
Our veteran leadership plays sloppy and weak.
And the prospects look lost.
Terry, who had some looking at negatively for quite awhile, is by far the best player.

 

[DuckRogers10]

Eakins should be fired for what he's doing to Lundestrom and Regenda.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Eakins should be fired for what he's doing to Lundestrom and Regenda.

He did the same thing to hall and gagne in edm

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Of course you can. Would you rather I have said "stop acting like this wasn't the plan"?

I'm just curious what you would have done differently that you think would have made this team a playoff team. They don't have the players.

You're really wide of the mark as to why people are upset I think, so if you're going to lecture people about it, it's a good idea to actually say what you mean or take the time to understand what people are upset about. Preferably both!

 

[Mr Rogers]

Eakins should be fired for what he's doing to Lundestrom and Regenda.

I was on the keep him around this season wagon but they just look so bad and some of these lineup decisions are infuriating. also zero PP goals since game 1 is truly astonishing. PK is awful too

young guys haven't looked great of late which might be the most important factor of all. you don't leave a goalie in when it's 6-0 or 7-0 - at what point will enough be enough i guess. or maybe they will turn it around and we won't get to that point but hard to see that right now.

 

[pbgoalie]

I’m the last couple years, what does this team actually do better? Serious question

Their
Passing
Defensive coverage
Board work
Forechecking
Cycling
Haven’t improved at all
PK is hysterically bad

Goaltending arguably not as good, but personally that’s defensive zone garbage

Some players have developed decently, but I wouldn’t say we’ve been as good at developing as we allegedly do at drafting (in fairness, a tone of very new prospects now)

 

[bsu]

I’m the last couple years, what does this team actually do better? Serious question

Their
Passing
Defensive coverage
Board work
Forechecking
Cycling
Haven’t improved at all
PK is hysterically bad

Goaltending arguably not as good, but personally that’s defensive zone garbage

Some players have developed decently, but I wouldn’t say we’ve been as good at developing as we allegedly do at drafting (in fairness, a tone of very new prospects now)

Nothing

 

[IDuck]

How does one develop correctly in this environment? It's like we are raising newborns in a crackhouse.

That is one hell of a analogy, and i agree.

 

[dracom]

Nothing

it's a shame the owners don't care enough to see that. it should be a huge red flag when there's no positives that can be seen for your franchise.

 

[MMC]

Doesn't really seem too far from what the plan seemed to be in Detroit. Blashill had a decent case for needing to go before Stevie took over, yet he was kept for multiple years. They signed veterans around the edges, but mostly they just kept feeding the pipeline until they had a fleshed out young core they could build around, which really came into form last season (Seider, Vrana, Larkin, Raymond, Bertuzzi, Rasmussen, Hronek). Once they arrived, they fired Blas and brought in Lalonde, and spent a boatload of money on a ton of free agents that round out the young core that came through.

I'm thinking Verbeek was hoping that this season would be similar to last year's Wings season, with Zegras, McTavish, Drysdale, Vaak, Terry, Lundestrom, Comtois, and anyone else who earns a shot over the course of this season really proving that they're a core worth building around, and we have a ton of money, even after extensions to go on a similar spending spree this upcoming offseason. You could argue they already established themselves as this to some extent last season, but it just isn't smart for a new GM to fully invest in a core he's been around for less than half a season.

Whether our team achieves that this year or not remains to be seen. Still too early to draw any definitive conclusions.