B-Sens 2022-23 Belleville Senators

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mianjo

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BSens lead 3-1


0:55 #49 Scott Sabourin (10) ASST: Cole Reinhardt (12), Dillon Heatherington (4)

4-1

7:14 #4 Jacob Larsson (1) ASST: #13 Egor Sokolov (23), #44 Kristians Rubins (4)

5-1

15:23 #49 Scott Sabourin (11) ASST: Cole Cassels (9) EMPTY NET

6-1

15:53 #17 Ridly Greig (11) ASST: Egor Sokolov (24), Jacob Bernard-Docker (2)

BSENS WIN 6-1


THREE STARS
Kevin Mandolese

1st
Kevin Mandolese (#31)
Belleville Senators
SA: 32 | SV: 31 | TOI: 60:00
Scott Sabourin

2nd
Scott Sabourin (#49)
Belleville Senators
G: 2 | A: 0
Ridly Greig

3rd
Ridly Greig (#17)
Belleville Senators
G: 1 | A: 1
 
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The Devilish Buffoon

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Your comment makes sense in a vacuum, but this has happened how many years in a row now? Excuses are lame
Maybe but when your AHL team has little control over their budget and how deep a roster they ice .. its poignant

Yeah, if you look at teams around the league... most of them have a few guys making close to an NHL salary. We have two guys making over $300k (Sabourin & Heatherington) and no one making over $400k.

Toronto ices a perennial contented, and they have Anderson making $800k, Clifford making $762k, Mete making $750k, Gaudette making $750k, Kallgren making $450k, Woll making $350k... huge difference.

Now, looking at the worst team in the league (Anaheim's affiliate, the Gulls, with 20pts in 34 games): they have Glenn Gawdin making $750k ($450 next year), Del Zotto making $450k, Chase De Leo making $350k ($400 next year)...

4th in the division is not bad at all given our injuries & lack of spending.
 
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devbouz12

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Yeah, if you look at teams around the league... most of them have a few guys making close to an NHL salary. We have two guys making over $300k (Sabourin & Heatherington) and no one making over $400k.

Toronto ices a perennial contented, and they have Anderson making $800k, Clifford making $762k, Mete making $750k, Gaudette making $750k, Kallgren making $450k, Woll making $350k... huge difference.

Now, looking at the worst team in the league (Anaheim's affiliate, the Gulls, with 20pts in 34 games): they have Glenn Gawdin making $750k ($450 next year), Del Zotto making $450k, Chase De Leo making $350k ($400 next year)...

4th in the division is not bad at all given our injuries & lack of spending.
Is there a salary cap in the A? If not, I would grant the BSens a bit more leniency...hard to contend forsure!
 

The Devilish Buffoon

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Our 2019 7th rounder RD is out producing our 2019 1st rounder RD.
In raw points, yes, and in goals and goals per game, yes. Not in pts/game though.

More importantly, though, 13 of Guenette's 19 points have been on the PP whereas only 4 of Thomson's 14 have been on PP. If Guenette can play an NHL PP, great. But if he can't, those points don't mean a ton in the context of projection (aside from the fact that he can do things with the puck).

Is there a salary cap in the A? If not, I would grant the BSens a bit more leniency...hard to contend forsure!
Nope, no salary cap. At least as I understand it.

If there is, the BSens are way, way below it, though.
 

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Yeah, if you look at teams around the league... most of them have a few guys making close to an NHL salary. We have two guys making over $300k (Sabourin & Heatherington) and no one making over $400k.

Toronto ices a perennial contented, and they have Anderson making $800k, Clifford making $762k, Mete making $750k, Gaudette making $750k, Kallgren making $450k, Woll making $350k... huge difference.

Now, looking at the worst team in the league (Anaheim's affiliate, the Gulls, with 20pts in 34 games): they have Glenn Gawdin making $750k ($450 next year), Del Zotto making $450k, Chase De Leo making $350k ($400 next year)...

4th in the division is not bad at all given our injuries & lack of spending.
Difference being all those 750k are on one way salaries that the leafs buried in the minors.
 

The Devilish Buffoon

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Difference being all those 750k are on one way salaries that the leafs buried in the minors.
What's the difference, exactly? It's not like any of those guys were signed with the expectation of being regular NHLers.

With us, any high-salaried (aka 750k +) player who has played in the AHL was signed with the intention of being a regular NHLer, and only ended up in the minors after losing their spot (usually to really weak competition)
 

Golden_Jet

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What's the difference, exactly? It's not like any of those guys were signed with the expectation of being regular NHLers.

With us, any high-salaried (aka 750k +) player who has played in the AHL was signed with the intention of being a regular NHLer, and only ended up in the minors after losing their spot (usually to really weak competition)
Yes very very few teams give multiple players one way contracts when they expect them to play in the AHL.
 

Joeyjoejoe

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In raw points, yes, and in goals and goals per game, yes. Not in pts/game though.

More importantly, though, 13 of Guenette's 19 points have been on the PP whereas only 4 of Thomson's 14 have been on PP. If Guenette can play an NHL PP, great. But if he can't, those points don't mean a ton in the context of projection (aside from the fact that he can do things with the puck).

Comment was more of a slight towards Thomson than anything. This dude should be up there in points and farther along in his development than what he has currently shown. His development has really stagnated.

Guennette did open a lot of eyes during the camp and the preseason, and looked a lot better than Thomson at times. I wouldn't be surprised if he will surpass Thomson in the depth chart in the eyes of management by the end of the season. This is Guennette's 2nd season in the AHL compared to Thomson's 3rd.
 
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