Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: The Search for a 2C
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Unless he is perpetually injured. I’m of a firm belief we only trade him for a 1C. Otherwise we keep him and have 2 1Ds for a long time.
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Any chance of going after someone like Chytil?
I think he’s got a lot more to give. Plays Center, has some size. RFA at year end. Are NYR in a position to afford his contract, or is there a cap crunch there? Genuinely asking
He’s like locked into a 3C role there for the foreseeable future or until he displaces Zib or Trocheck
I think he’s got a lot more to give. Plays Center, has some size. RFA at year end. Are NYR in a position to afford his contract, or is there a cap crunch there? Genuinely asking
He’s like locked into a 3C role there for the foreseeable future or until he displaces Zib or Trocheck
Rangers would have zero desire to trade him. He fits the 3C role well and they have enough cap to handle his raise.
- Jan 18, 2016
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I doubt it but they will have some tough decisions to make this offseason. Lafrieniere will need to be re-signed (though it won't be a huge raise) and so will Miller.
Chytil is a player I really like for a lot of reasons, not sure he has the potential to be a high-end 2C but there's a lot in his game I like. Rangers would likely be asking a lot for him if they dealt him, not sure the Avs would have what they're looking for.
Um...*points at the obvious*
dahrougem2
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Pretty much.
I'm one of Byram's biggest supporters and think the guy has Scott Niedermayer/Duncan Keith written all over him but the guy just cannot stay healthy, and I'm guessing the Avs have to be getting very impatient with how little he's available to actually play hockey games.
I'll bet they're a lot more open to moving him for the right player/package now than they were, say, after the SCF.
New York will have some decisions to make, but they really only have 2 deals that can give them heartburn this summer in Miller and Chytil. Chytil likely maxes around $5m per and Miller is likely heading to a bridge that is best for both sides. Beyond those two you have Lafs who either gets Kakko's money or is moved in the deal for Kane. Hajek/Harpur are meh anyway and trending to be replaced internally on ELCs. The Vesey, Blais, Gauthier, Kravtsov group are all replacement level guys who are either cheap to re-sign or replaced internally. Then a backup goalie. There isn't a bunch of big money deals to worry about this offseason unless they want to re-sign Kane.
Yes but he is young. Very young. Still could turn out like Crosby.
dahrougem2
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Watch the Rangers overpay to retain Sammy Blais just because he was the Buchnevich return lol.
Crosby had plenty of healthy seasons before the concussions, and he only lost about a year’s worth of games IIRC. I don’t know if it’s better or worse that he’s now got a long-term injury that isn’t a concussion. Whatever the case you can only speculate. He has to prove he can play in at least a majority of regular season games. Hasn’t done it yet.
The Avs have kind of had what originally looked like a "great problem to have" slowly starting to turn into a bad problem to have. Last summer, we had 3 quality Top 4 LHD and only 2 spots. The thought was we'd get one more deep playoff run with the best Defense in the league, and then get to move one of those stud LD to fill important needs elsewhere in the roster.
But I would say at this point our LHD has become a bit of a problem. Not one of the the three LD we have are playing at the same level they have before for us. Toews is the closest to maintaining but even his numbers are noticeably back from what they were last year with us. Actually not even quite as good as his first year with us. Still a solid top pairing guy, but much more of a high end #2 guy then the legit #1 he played like for us last year.
Then you've got Byram, who at this point the injuries are a major, major concern. At this point in his NHL career, out of 172 possible regular season games, he's played in just 59 of them. Less then 35%. That's a big time issue in and of itself. But then when you actually look at the concussions and obviously how close he's already came to quitting hockey once. It is a major concern and likely has had a significant impact on his trade value as well. Teams aren't going to offer up close to fair value for a guy who cant play.
And then you've got Girard, who's just simply struggling. Whether its because he bulked up and lost the elusiveness he had earlier on in his career, or if teams simply know how to defend him, a confidence issue, injuries... etc. He's struggling, especially on the offensive side of the game. At this point he's been struggling for over a year now and teams aren't going to be particularly interest in giving up decent value for him if he doesn't turn it around.
It feels like we're at a point where we cant really even move any of the 3 LHD at this point. 2 of them because they've got tanked value, and reliability issues right now. And then because of that, you cant trade Toews either as he's the only one playing reliable hockey for the most part right now.
Its a very unfortunate situation for us to be in because we desperately need a Center, and its going to be extremely tough to get a decent one that we can fit into the salary cap at this point, and then its going to be tough to create trade value when what should have been our top trade chips have had significant issues this year.
Tough spot to be in. They should be able to figure something out for this year. But next year is going to be an extremely challenging year. Feels like people who are already struggling/extremely frustrated with this team this year are only going to be even more annoyed next year.
But I would say at this point our LHD has become a bit of a problem. Not one of the the three LD we have are playing at the same level they have before for us. Toews is the closest to maintaining but even his numbers are noticeably back from what they were last year with us. Actually not even quite as good as his first year with us. Still a solid top pairing guy, but much more of a high end #2 guy then the legit #1 he played like for us last year.
Then you've got Byram, who at this point the injuries are a major, major concern. At this point in his NHL career, out of 172 possible regular season games, he's played in just 59 of them. Less then 35%. That's a big time issue in and of itself. But then when you actually look at the concussions and obviously how close he's already came to quitting hockey once. It is a major concern and likely has had a significant impact on his trade value as well. Teams aren't going to offer up close to fair value for a guy who cant play.
And then you've got Girard, who's just simply struggling. Whether its because he bulked up and lost the elusiveness he had earlier on in his career, or if teams simply know how to defend him, a confidence issue, injuries... etc. He's struggling, especially on the offensive side of the game. At this point he's been struggling for over a year now and teams aren't going to be particularly interest in giving up decent value for him if he doesn't turn it around.
It feels like we're at a point where we cant really even move any of the 3 LHD at this point. 2 of them because they've got tanked value, and reliability issues right now. And then because of that, you cant trade Toews either as he's the only one playing reliable hockey for the most part right now.
Its a very unfortunate situation for us to be in because we desperately need a Center, and its going to be extremely tough to get a decent one that we can fit into the salary cap at this point, and then its going to be tough to create trade value when what should have been our top trade chips have had significant issues this year.
Tough spot to be in. They should be able to figure something out for this year. But next year is going to be an extremely challenging year. Feels like people who are already struggling/extremely frustrated with this team this year are only going to be even more annoyed next year.
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Avs (we) are in a position where we can have a dynasty for a few years. Draft picks are relatively unimportant.
We can use our firstrounders (2) to aquire Lafreniere and Toewes etc. A prospect or two (Behrens, Olausson) and a player (Myers) have to be given up as well.
Sketch:
Alexis Lafreniere - Nathan MacKinnon - Mikko Rantanen
Artturi Lehkonen - Jonathan Toewes - Valeri Nichushkin
Gabriel Landeskog - J.T. Compher - Evan Rodrigues
Alex Newhook - Andrew Cogliano - Logan O'Connor
Denis Malgin - Alex Galchenyuk - Martin Kaut
Darren Helm
Nex season:
Lafreniere - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Landeskog - Newhook - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - X - LOCO
Malgin - Y - Kaut
Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
Girard - Johnson (at 2 million)
We can use our firstrounders (2) to aquire Lafreniere and Toewes etc. A prospect or two (Behrens, Olausson) and a player (Myers) have to be given up as well.
Sketch:
Alexis Lafreniere - Nathan MacKinnon - Mikko Rantanen
Artturi Lehkonen - Jonathan Toewes - Valeri Nichushkin
Gabriel Landeskog - J.T. Compher - Evan Rodrigues
Alex Newhook - Andrew Cogliano - Logan O'Connor
Denis Malgin - Alex Galchenyuk - Martin Kaut
Darren Helm
Nex season:
Lafreniere - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Landeskog - Newhook - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - X - LOCO
Malgin - Y - Kaut
Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
Girard - Johnson (at 2 million)
Metallo
NWOBHM forever \m/
Is the plan to waste assets and cap space on Laf to have a hole at 2C, 3C, and 4C?
I just don't get your post.
- Jan 18, 2016
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milehigh11
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I was looking at RFAs at the end of the year. Came across the McLeod brothers.
Micheal McLeod "C" NJD will be 25 in Feb. right handed shot. 6'2 / 188 (197 games total in NHL)
35 games / 14 pts
the other
Ryan McLeod "C" EDM is 23. Left handed shot 6'3 / 201 (104 games total in NHL)
23 games / 8 pts
I dont watch enough of those teams to know much about them but just looking at stats. Any thoughts on them.
Micheal McLeod "C" NJD will be 25 in Feb. right handed shot. 6'2 / 188 (197 games total in NHL)
35 games / 14 pts
the other
Ryan McLeod "C" EDM is 23. Left handed shot 6'3 / 201 (104 games total in NHL)
23 games / 8 pts
I dont watch enough of those teams to know much about them but just looking at stats. Any thoughts on them.
dahrougem2
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Lol what the f*** is happening
Thoughts are neither will be available
BobRossColton
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dahrougem2
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By trading two of our top three assets for Raty and defensemen Aho? What does that accomplish for this team?
BobRossColton
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Raty as 2c for 2.5 seasons at 836k seems ideal. Could change it to Ross Johnston for or bottom 6
dahrougem2
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I'm sorry but what hockey are you watching?
Aatu Raty and his 12 points in 23 AHL games will be our 2C? And what the f*** do we want with a 4th line goon in Ross Johnston?
BobRossColton
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